Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:42 PM 8/18/03 -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote: Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) > Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PR

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ron

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) > Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: > >> From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> Ronn!B

Re: US notches world's highest incarceration rate

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html The prison population has quadrupled since 1980. Much of that surge is the result of public policy, such as the war on drugs and mandatory minimum sentencing. Nearly 1 in 4 of the inmates in federal and state prisons are t

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The wrongness of our approach to this problem seems so blatantly obvious to me that I have to be suspicious of the real motives behind drug prohibitions. Doug According to your theory, which would the

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 02:31 PM 8/18/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >Hey, you've got a mind -- try to have fun with it during those times! > >:) (My mother regularly wakes up for an hour or two in the middle of > >the night, and years ago decided to try to *enjoy* it, and she's be

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 05:59 PM 8/18/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: > > >Nothing is going to work the same way on *everybody*. Someone may be > >more sensitive to the effects of extra garlic than the next person. > > Vampires, frex. Or people who plan to be doing a lot of kissing.

Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Deborah Harrell wrote: Darn it! I had a reply almost done, and then our electricity flickered... (impressive storm!)... Thanks, Debbi, looks like good stuff, though it could take a while to digest. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:31 PM 8/18/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Hey, you've got a mind -- try to have fun with it during those times! :) (My mother regularly wakes up for an hour or two in the middle of the night, and years ago decided to try to *enjoy* it, and she's been generally happier since.) Or you coul

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:59 PM 8/18/03 -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Nothing is going to work the same way on *everybody*. Someone may be more sensitive to the effects of extra garlic than the next person. Vampires, frex. Or people who plan to be doing a lot of kissing. -- Ronn! :) __

RE: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:47 PM 8/18/03 -0700, Chad Cooper wrote: My children were night owls, staying up to midnight was not difficult for them. My wife and I talked with a pediatric neurologist during a checkup on one of the children. The doctor told me my daughter was suffering from sleep deprivation and suggested

Al Qaida claims responsibility for blackout

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_5.html Al Qaida's Abu Hafs Brigades has claimed responsibility for the blackout last week in the Northeast and Midwest United States. A communiqué by the Abu Hafs Brigades made reference to Operation Quick Lightning in the Land of the Tyrant of thi

US notches world's highest incarceration rate

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0818/p02s01-usju.html More than 5.6 million Americans are in prison or have served time there, according to a new report by the Justice Department released Sunday. That's 1 in 37 adults living in the United States, the highest incarceration level in the world. It's th

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
Hi, Julia! Thanks for the kind reply. :) From: Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tryptophan got pulled from a lot of places sometime around 1990. (1989? I was using it in late 1988, early 1989, and it helped me some -- but it could have been placebo effect, for all I know.) Never tried Melaton

Re: Fastest Qheuen Alive rewrite--longer, new ending.

2003-08-18 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/18/03 5:49:12 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Added characters, hopefully better logic, and now > with a date and made up location. Much better logical flow, and as for the ending -- how illustrative of those w

Re: Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > Debbi > > who has used and recommended various supplements & > > herbals, but checks out available research > beforehand > > (many herbals frex have been well-studied in many > > European countries, so even if not FDA-app

Re: Fastest Qheuen Alive rewrite--longer, new ending.

2003-08-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Added characters, hopefully better logic, and now > with a date and made up location. Much better logical flow, and as for the ending -- how illustrative of those who seek to follow the Path of Redemption. :) For The Good Of The Whole Maru

Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-18 Thread John Garcia
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 04:59 AM, G. D. Akin wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: Ditto, thanks for the info. I was planning on getting this and Terry Goodkind's book (without reading the previous book, since everyone says it's bad). Did you think the book with the environmental terrorists was the

Re: Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > Debbi > > who has used and recommended various supplements & > > herbals, but checks out available research beforehand > > (many herbals frex have been well-studied in many > > European countries, so even if not FDA-appr

Caloric deficit (was: insomnia)

2003-08-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
> >Exercise and weight loss > >The myth is, if you add on exercise you'll lose > body fat. The truth is, if > >you create a calorie deficit, you'll lose body fat. Well, actually, caloric deficit can be created by reducing calorie intake, OR significantly increasing caloric burn i.e. exercise, OR

RE: Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re:insomn ia

2003-08-18 Thread Chad Cooper
Debbi who has used and recommended various supplements & herbals, but checks out available research beforehand (many herbals frex have been well-studied in many European countries, so even if not FDA-approved, I can feel confident that at least they won't do harm; some studies of herbals includin

Re: Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: > Debbi > who has used and recommended various supplements & > herbals, but checks out available research beforehand > (many herbals frex have been well-studied in many > European countries, so even if not FDA-approved, I can > feel confident that at least they won't do harm

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 8/18/2003 12:52:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >Time to lay in bed and stare at the ceiling for six hours > > > > > > > > > > I know that feeling all to well... > > > > Hey, you've got a mind -- try to have

Re: Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: Sonja van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >Contaminated tryptophan killed a couple of people. > The FDA tracked the > >problem I think. Did find this on the subject > > > >http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-tryp1.html > >

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 8/18/2003 12:52:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >Time to lay in bed and stare at the ceiling for six hours > > > > > > > I know that feeling all to well... > > Hey, you've got a mind -- try to have fun with it during those times! > :) (M

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
Chad Cooper wrote: > Well that's it. I have had great results with it and do suggest it, > especially over the OTC sleep aids. > I buy the GNC brand 1 Milligram dissolving tablets (Cherry flavored) - about > 4 bucks for 100 tablets. Doesn't GNC have some kind of card or something you pay to get,

RE: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Chad Cooper
My experience with Melatonin has been good. It does make me sleepy, and I take it about one a week, as needed. I take it usually about 30 minutes before I want to be in bed. I have tried different doses, and generally, I think dosage probably has more to do with age than anything else. Older adult

Re: Elevators and Death - My day at work

2003-08-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
WARNING: Kinda Graphic! - Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Elevators and Death - My day at work > I went looking in yesterday's Statesman to see if I coul

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
"Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" wrote: > > >From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >--- "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > If you wish to experiement with a non-drug solution for a sleep > > > disorder,have you tried Melatonin? Doesn't do much for me, but I hear it > > > does won

Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
Darn it! I had a reply almost done, and then our electricity flickered... (impressive storm!)... --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > > Dan Minette wrote: > >> From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Jan Coffey wrote: > >> > > --- Andrew Crystall w

Re: Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Sonja van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Contaminated tryptophan killed a couple of people. The FDA tracked the problem I think. Did find this on the subject http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-tryp1.html http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-ltr1.html

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Jan Coffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you wish to experiement with a non-drug solution for a sleep > disorder,have you tried Melatonin? Doesn't do much for me, but I hear it > does wonders for others. Also, Tryptophan (if you can find it so

Tryptophane and eosinophilia myalgia syndrome, was Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Julia Thompson wrote: Tryptophan got pulled from a lot of places sometime around 1990. (1989? I was using it in late 1988, early 1989, and it helped me some -- but it could have been placebo effect, for all I know.) Never tried Melatonin. Contaminated tryptophan killed a couple of people. The

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:11 PM 8/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: --- "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you wish to experiement with a non-drug solution for a sleep > disorder,have you tried Melatonin? Doesn't do much for me, but I hear it > does wonders for others. Also, Tryptophan (if you can find it

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Jan Coffey
--- "Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you wish to experiement with a non-drug solution for a sleep > disorder,have you tried Melatonin? Doesn't do much for me, but I hear it > does wonders for others. Also, Tryptophan (if you can find it somewhere) is > supposed to be good.

Re: Depiction of Threat Outgrew Supporting Evidence

2003-08-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39500-2003Aug9.html > > Exerpt: > > "At issue was Iraq's efforts to buy high-strength > aluminum tubes. > The U.S. government said those tubes were for > centrifuges to enrich > uranium for a nucl

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
"Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo" wrote: > > Hi, Kevin! :) > > >From: Kevin Tarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I'm saying insomnia, because I should be asleep, but not tired at all. > > I sympathize strongly. I seldom sleep more than 4 or maybe 5 hours a night. > I only sleep 7 or 8 hours on friday nights, bu

RE: Be careful what you shoot at whom....

2003-08-18 Thread Chad Cooper
> >In college, we had some cap gun pistols that were extremely >realistic looking. One of my best friends forgot that he had one of >these in his backpack while attempting to travel home from school >via airplane. They caught him at security, believed him that he >forgot it was there and that it

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The wrongness of our approach to this problem seems so blatantly obvious to me that I have to be suspicious of the real motives behind drug prohibitions. Doug According to your theory, which would these be? JJ _

republicans blocked energy grid modernization funds 3 times in 2001

2003-08-18 Thread The Fool
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/08/15_blackout.html If Bush Really Wants to Investigate the Cause of the Largest Blackout in American History, He Should Start with the Vice-President, Tom DeLay and Himself A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS The following BuzzFlash news analysis was developed using m

Re: insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
Hi, Kevin! :) From: Kevin Tarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm saying insomnia, because I should be asleep, but not tired at all. I sympathize strongly. I seldom sleep more than 4 or maybe 5 hours a night. I only sleep 7 or 8 hours on friday nights, but by saturday and sunday I'm back to my insomniac

Re: Elevators and Death - My day at work

2003-08-18 Thread Julia Thompson
I went looking in yesterday's Statesman to see if I could find anything about it, and I did. The short article indicated that there was a woman on the elevator, trapped for 15-20 minutes after the accident. Pretty awful all around. I'm really glad I didn't initially find out about it on the loca

Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-18 Thread Damon
I think he's spread thin. There are three or four "collaboration" series out there now. I read the first couple of "Op Center" books and decided I didn't need to read any more of those and haven't read any of the other series. I haven't read his non-fiction books about tanks and subs and plane

Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-18 Thread G. D. Akin
Top posting here: after "The Bear and the Dragon" came "Red Rabbit." George A - Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:03 AM Subject: Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth > "G. D. Akin" wrote: >

Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-18 Thread G. D. Akin
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: > >From: "G. D. Akin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I'll say again, the story is slow and ponderous, perhaps in an attempt to > >build suspense, but, instead, it builds boredom. The plot is contrived and > >the conclusion, while screaming loudly and clearly "sequel", is em

Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-18 Thread G. D. Akin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Do you think that Clancy's novels have lost their "edge"? Or that Clancy > > has > > spread himself too thin over time? The man is a franchise now, mostly. I > > with your perception... > > > > I think he has Ludlum Disease. (He has reached a level of success as a > be

Re: This Tiger Has No Teeth

2003-08-18 Thread G. D. Akin
Kevin Tarr wrote: > Ditto, thanks for the info. I was planning on getting this and Terry > Goodkind's book (without reading the previous book, since everyone says > it's bad). > > Did you think the book with the environmental terrorists was the worst book > before this? I think it was Executive Or

Re: Physics vs Economics (Was: major power outage in the East)

2003-08-18 Thread Russell Chapman
Erik Reuter wrote: >Does 845 miles qualify as "a few hundred"? > It qualifies as next-door here. We have a relatively small number of power stations, usually around energy sources such as coal mines, that are thousands of miles apart and often thousands of miles from the consumers. We have also

Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: 3) Are people more likely to be killed by someone sober or by someone who has been using drugs or alcohol? When are we going to wake up and realize that people want to get high? From the mild stimulus of caffeine, the outwardly innocuousness of nicotine and the destr

Re: Most Dangerous States

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 04:12 PM 8/17/03 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Most Dangerous States > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > > --- Andr

insomnia

2003-08-18 Thread Kevin Tarr
I'm saying insomnia, because I should be asleep, but not tired at all. I actually wanted to label this sweat, but figured I get less readers. Just on the news: athletes who drink only water are at a higher risk for cramps and heat related stress. (paraphrased. They meant, people who have less s