Re: Due Process in Europe

2004-03-21 Thread Matt Grimaldi
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > > > Just imagine if Ashcroft had done this > > > > http://tinyurl.com/3y9uj (Thanks, Julia) > If Ashcroft had tried this, he would have said the reporter illegally had secret/confidential information, and was some kind of spy. If you want to include being held

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:58:11 -0500, David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you just tied "ReptiliKlan". I still don't see how "Repulsive" ties in with just the Republican party. I mean, have you LOOKED at Ted Kennedy recently? : ) Kenedocrats? Demblobocrats? -- Doug _

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Medievalbk
ReapElsieCans. All most liberals know about conservitism comes from the condensed version? RearPuppyCams Mounting a spy camera on a dog's nose really wasn't such a great idea. Rear-Pub-Ick-cans Remember that scene in Transpotting? Vilyehm Teighlore ___

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
David wrote: O.K., getting better. I give it 10 (out of 10) for denigration, 9 for euphony (unless you want "Lie" to have a schwa in it) No schwa. Schwashtica, maybe, but no schwa. and 10 for relevance. But I have to ding it two points for obscenity. Still, 27 is a good score. What, no points

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Tom Beck wrote: > > Repulsiveklans I think you just tied "ReptiliKlan". I still don't see how "Repulsive" ties in with just the Republican party. I mean, have you LOOKED at Ted Kennedy recently? : ) ---David

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Tom Beck
Repulsiveklans -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomfodw/ "I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last." - Dr. Jerry Pournelle --

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Doug Pensinger wrote: > > Warning of implied x rated content. If you are under 18, or highly > sensitive to obscenities, implied or otherwise, close your eyes before > reading this email. If you are over 18, you may proceed. (To see not one, but two *s?) ... > ReF**kLieKlan, as in we're all f

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Tom Beck wrote: > > >>> I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up > >>> with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And > >>> while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties > >>> too. > >> > >> How 'bout "Rat pubic hairs"? > > > > That gets an

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
Warning of implied x rated content. If youi are under 18, or highly sensitive to obscenities, implied or otherwise, close your eyes before reading this email. If you are over 18, you may proceed. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * David wrote: "Not a winner this time. Try aga

The Begining of the End? (part 2)

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
60 Minutes interview with Richard Clarke, one time top anti-terrorism advisor. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml] or http://tinyurl.com/yq9ax Clarke was the president's chief adviser on terrorism, yet it wasn't until Sept. 11 that he ever got to brief Mr. B

The Begining of the End? (part 1)

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
60 Minutes interview with Richard Clarke, one time top anti-terrorism advisor. 60 Minutes has two sources that told them independently of Clarke that the encounter described below happened, including "an actual witness" [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml] or

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Tom Beck
I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties too. How 'bout "Rat pubic hairs"? That gets an 8 (out of 10) for denigration, 5 for euphony, and only 1 for re

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Tom Beck wrote: > > > I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up > > with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And > > while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties > > too. > > How 'bout "Rat pubic hairs"? That gets an 8 (out of 10) for

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Tom Beck
I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties too. How 'bout "Rat pubic hairs"? ---

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:10 PM 3/21/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc > At 07:12 PM 3/21/04, David Hobby wro

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "David Hobby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 9:37 PM Subject: Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc > Robert Seeberger wrote: > ... > > > Aren't those the things pictured on the cover o

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
Erik wrote: Anyone else want to make any competing predictions? This could be interesting... Interesting stuff, Erik, though I don't pretend to understand it completely. A few questions. In the late '70s oil prices spiked and the result was double digit inflation (one of the things that killed

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
The Fool wrote: ... > > (I'm talking perception here. I do not want to start a spinoff > > argument.) But the "Reptili" part is weak, since its only > > function is to give the name bad connotations, without having anything Well, I did say "perception". I don't think your biology is too accurat

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Robert Seeberger wrote: ... > > Aren't those the things pictured on the cover of the past week's > issue of > > _Weekly World News_? > > > > http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/wwn/newsstand.cfm It says "404". So the two 4s are the horns of a demon? Where's the cat?

Re: The Smell of a Real Scandal

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: After all, it counts hamburger flippers as manufacturing jobs. Not yet, anyway. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/politics/main601336.shtml] or http://tinyurl.com/233wm The annual Economic Report of the President has already stirred controversy by suggesting the loss of

Re: The Smell of a Real Scandal

2004-03-21 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:22 PM 3/21/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: >The Bush administration now has an old-fashioned credibility gap. If >numbers are released saying that the economy is perking up, why should >anyone believe them? Because statistical numbers are produced by career civil servants at the Bureau o

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
In my case, I think that learning being so easy for me, made me lazy. Not having to work very hard to learn encouraged a lot of bad habits. Any advantage I might have ever had I pissed away. And I'm still lazy. rob This matches what I could have written about myself. Though there were other facto

Re: Race to the Bottom

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 10:08:56PM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: > I haven't had time yet to write up an interpretation of the data, but > I will post one soon so we can discuss. In the meantime, if anyone > has any interpretation they'd like to post, please do! It will be > interesting to see if we d

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Ronn!Blankenship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc > At 07:12 PM 3/21/04, David Hobby wrote: > > >...snip... > > > >Democrats: Dem

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread The Fool
> From: David Hobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up > with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And > while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties > too. > > The "Klan" part of the name is good, because it ties

Re: Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:12 PM 3/21/04, David Hobby wrote: ...snip... Democrats: Demoncats (Fat Cats) Aren't those the things pictured on the cover of the past week's issue of _Weekly World News_? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Richard Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE > Rob said: > > >> JD, with an IQ of 137 > >> > > > > Mine is 158. > > 105, last time I t

The Smell of a Real Scandal

2004-03-21 Thread Doug Pensinger
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4571136/ The Smell of a Real Scandal The run-up to the Iraq war was more hype than lie. Medicare is a clearer example of dishonesty and corruption at high levels By Jonathan Alter Newsweek March 29 issue - The Democrats are over the top. Last week the Democratic National

Contest: Help improve on "ReptiliKlan", etc

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
I think we should all get together and help The Fool come up with a better name for Republicans than "ReptiliKlans". And while we're at it, we should do it for other political parties too. The "Klan" part of the name is good, because it ties in with a perceived aversion to civil rights on the par

Re: IQ, was Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: > > David Hobby wrote: > > > I never took an IQ test, but did take the SATs (750, 800). Mensa > > is prepared to consider scores on a bunch of tests, which could > > give one rough equivalences if they cared. (That was as of a > > couple of years ago. I just looked, and t

Re: March Madness!

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
Ugh. The two teams I picked for the final are out. I only have 7 of 16 and 5 of 8 (if I get them). I spend two days off work for this? The only upside: I got very good at GoldenTee golf. Kevin T. - VRWC back to work ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/

Re: Due Process in Europe

2004-03-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:54 PM 3/21/04, Julia Thompson wrote: "John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > Just imagine if Ashcroft had done this > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/20/weu20.xml&sS > heet=/news/2004/03/20/ixworld.html I can't imagine, really, mostly because I haven't read the artic

Re: Book Binding

2004-03-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:34 PM 3/21/04, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/20/2004 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinal glue. By Vinyl glue do you mean PVA, aka "Elmer's" white glue? Thanks for the response! Milk based white glue cracks

Re: IQ, was Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Julia Thompson
David Hobby wrote: > I never took an IQ test, but did take the SATs (750, 800). Mensa > is prepared to consider scores on a bunch of tests, which could > give one rough equivalences if they cared. (That was as of a > couple of years ago. I just looked, and they seem to be more > cagey about wha

IQ, was Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread David Hobby
Richard Baker wrote: > > Rob said: > > >> JD, with an IQ of 137 > >> > > > > Mine is 158. > > 105, last time I took a test. > > Rich, who doesn't think they measure anything interesting anyway. Yeah, right... : ) You probably transposed a couple digits. I never took an IQ test, but did take

Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action

2004-03-21 Thread Julia Thompson
Travis Edmunds wrote: > You're a meanie. But I guess it's all true, so...ah...yeah...you're a meanie > and I'm telling my mommy... > > Or is it mommie? I dunno. I usually see it written as "mommy". There's also "mom", "mama" and "ma". Julia _

Re: Due Process in Europe

2004-03-21 Thread Julia Thompson
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > Just imagine if Ashcroft had done this > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/20/weu20.xml&sS > heet=/news/2004/03/20/ixworld.html http://tinyurl.com/3y9uj I tell you what, they'd be protesting in various cities. Not sure what else. N

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 05:59 PM 3/21/2004, you wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 10:50:38PM +, Richard Baker wrote: > I don't know about that. Even so, I still don't think that would > disprove the Fool's assertion. In this case, There could be very > many smart people like Debbi indeed and still the atheists could

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 10:50:38PM +, Richard Baker wrote: > I don't know about that. Even so, I still don't think that would > disprove the Fool's assertion. In this case, There could be very > many smart people like Debbi indeed and still the atheists could in > principle all be all smarter

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said: > That would be one way, but Why would you "have to" do it that way? Why > can't it be disproved by showing that the group that believes in god > is NOT below average? Okay, so I should have said that the only way to disprove the Fool's position based on the characteristics of one pers

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 10:25:25PM +, Richard Baker wrote: > The Fool asserted that if you don't believe in God then you are > automatically above average. To disprove this, you'd have to find an > atheist who was below average in intelligence and education. That would be one way, but Why wou

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Julia Thompson
Richard Baker wrote: > > Erik said: > > > Or are you playing at something Garrison Keillor'ish? > > I've never even heard of Garrison Keillor. Should I have? Well, if you were in the US and prone to listen to public radio (at least prone to it at a certain time), then you should have. I'm gue

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said: > But in this case, doesn't it? If his assertion, that not believing in > god puts you "above average", then the group believing in god must be > below average (or else the "undecided" group is large and well below > average thus allowing the other two groups to be above average). The

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 09:58:38PM +, Richard Baker wrote: > Debbi said: > > >>> But what if I don't believe in God? > > > >> That means you are above average in intelligence and > >> education. > > > > My M.D. and my well-above-average IQ (even after a > > significant closed head injury) di

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Richard Baker
Rob said: >> JD, with an IQ of 137 >> > > Mine is 158. 105, last time I took a test. Rich, who doesn't think they measure anything interesting anyway. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Richard Baker
Debbi said: >>> But what if I don't believe in God? > >> That means you are above average in intelligence and >> education. > > My M.D. and my well-above-average IQ (even after a > significant closed head injury) disagree with your > supposition. Of course, if A implies B that doesn't necessari

Re: Due Process in Europe

2004-03-21 Thread Julia Thompson
"John D. Giorgis" wrote: > > Just imagine if Ashcroft had done this > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/20/weu20.xml&sS > heet=/news/2004/03/20/ixworld.html I can't imagine, really, mostly because I haven't read the article, and I haven't read the article because

Due Process in Europe

2004-03-21 Thread John D. Giorgis
Just imagine if Ashcroft had done this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/20/weu20.xml&sS heet=/news/2004/03/20/ixworld.html ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "The libert

Re: Book Binding

2004-03-21 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/20/2004 10:04:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vinal glue. By Vinyl glue do you mean PVA, aka "Elmer's" white glue? Thanks for the response! Milk based white glue cracks. It has to say vinal in the title. Isn

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Julia Thompson
Jim Sharkey wrote: > > John Doe wrote: > >The test I took had a maximum score of 150, which gives me a score > >of 137/150 * 100% = 91.3%. > >Not that I'm bragging or anything. :-) > > Sounds like bragging to me, Jerry. Sounds like you're ready for that > favorite of Brin-L games, "My brain is b

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Mar 2004, at 4:19 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:03 AM 3/21/04, John Doe wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Kevin Tarr
If it had a maximum score, it wasn't the standard IQ test, and so the number you are quoting is not an IQ as it is normally understood. Quite a few people have IQs over 150. A very few have IQs over 200. Where did you take this test that claimed to be an IQ test with a maximum score of 150?

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:03 AM 3/21/04, John Doe wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:23:32 -0600 If we were to turn the word "well"

HimmlerCroft, 'Liberal Media' won't speak of Texas Cyanide Bomber, but Mooni-UPI will

2004-03-21 Thread The Fool
<> Outside View: Who is William Krar? By Jim Kessler A UPI Outside View commentary Published 3/14/2004 2:57 PM View printer-friendly version WASHINGTON, March 14 (UPI) -- Since his appointment as attorney general, John Ashcroft's Washin

HimmlerCrofts Domestic Terrorism Priorities

2004-03-21 Thread The Fool
<> Tre Arrow: Most wanted terrorist? The arrest of environmental activist Tre Arrow is a story that should be getting more attention in the blogosphere, although the trains in Spain and the ongoing Bush-Kerry rasslin' match have understandably

Shrub Turns a Blind Eye: US, JP, FR Corporations Sell Nuke Reactors -> China -> Pakistan

2004-03-21 Thread The Fool
<> Proliferation Pass Stopping China and Pakistan in their nuclear tracks. By Henry Sokolski You'd think that after the illicit Pakistani nuclear sales to North Korea, Iran, and Libya, the U.S. and its allies would want to boost th

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread Jim Sharkey
John Doe wrote: >The test I took had a maximum score of 150, which gives me a score >of 137/150 * 100% = 91.3%. >Not that I'm bragging or anything. :-) Sounds like bragging to me, Jerry. Sounds like you're ready for that favorite of Brin-L games, "My brain is bigger than yours." :) Jim

Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE

2004-03-21 Thread John Doe
From: Ronn!Blankenship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DEFENDERS OF THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:23:32 -0600 If we were to turn the word "well" as in "well above average" into a p

Re: 'Greatest Generation' Struggled With History, Too

2004-03-21 Thread William T Goodall
On 21 Mar 2004, at 12:22 am, Damon Agretto wrote: The difference, howevver, is that the number of kids in school now, as well as the number graduating, is much higher than in 1917, or 1943, and are probably more intelligent to boot. Why would they be more intelligent? Having more people stay longe

Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action

2004-03-21 Thread Ray Ludenia
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 04:27 AM 3/21/04, Ray Ludenia wrote: >> Travis Edmunds wrote: >> >>> You're a meanie. But I guess it's all true, so...ah...yeah...you're a >> meanie >>> and I'm telling my mommy... >>> >>> Or is it mommie? I dunno. >> >> What's wrong with the normal English use of "

Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action

2004-03-21 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:27 AM 3/21/04, Ray Ludenia wrote: Travis Edmunds wrote: > You're a meanie. But I guess it's all true, so...ah...yeah...you're a meanie > and I'm telling my mommy... > > Or is it mommie? I dunno. What's wrong with the normal English use of "mummy"? Nothing, if you are referring to Egyptia

Re: [ADMIN] Call for administrative action

2004-03-21 Thread Ray Ludenia
Travis Edmunds wrote: > You're a meanie. But I guess it's all true, so...ah...yeah...you're a meanie > and I'm telling my mommy... > > Or is it mommie? I dunno. What's wrong with the normal English use of "mummy"? Don't tell me Canadians have been corrupted into using Americanese? :-) Regards,