On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:22:39PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
Not very sensitive to how his messages will be received is he?
On the contrary!
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On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:53:02PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
They died because environmental activists _didn't care_, and they won
the argument, against all reason and evidence.
There are any number of other examples. Golden rice. Genetically
engineered food crops in Africa. That was a
At 06:18 PM 4/22/2004 -0700 Davd Brin wrote:
If Jesus arrived today,
he would not give a damn about markets, and they know
it. He said give the shirt off your back to the poor
RIGHT NOW! He did not teach a man to fish, he gave
the man fish.
Face it, if he arrived here today, he would not be a
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On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:53:02PM -0700, Gautam
Mukunda wrote:
Sounds like you are attributing malevolence to them.
Maybe they honestly
disagree with you? Perhaps they feel that they are
saving billions of
lives (the human race) sometime in the
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 05:02:57AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as it doesn't strike to close to home, they can disagree.
But if it feels too personal, then they are evil.
I don't think so, no. Golden rice doesn't strike particularly close
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At 08:52 AM 4/23/04, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you think the blindness of millions of kids is
worth stopping some
unspecified and very small risk that genetically
engineered rice might
in some way harm someone, then you're into a
morally
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Travis Edmunds wrote:
Interesting. Incidentally, I now know how Anakin Skywalker was conceived!
The genetic offspring of two females _must_ be female. Anakin - and Jesus -
can't be the genetic son of two women.
Alberto Monteiro
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:52:49AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Look Erik, this isn't actually that hard.
Right, double standards make things quite easy.
But not all disagreements are worthy of respect.
Understood. People disagreeing with you must respect you, but you don't
have to respect
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 06:52:49AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
Look Erik, this
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:05:07AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
There is considerable empirical evidence both in his response and in
past series of posts that contradict this assertion. Why do you make
it?
Huh?
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Had a little insight the other day that seems relevant to our periodic
how-to-have-a-reasonable-discussion discussions.
I've certainly been guilty at times of having to be right -- having a
hard time letting go of an argument when someone else disagrees (and I
just *know* that I'm right, which
--- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
concern himself with tax policy if he returned.
Instead, he would concern himself with individual
salvation.
In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
That the End of Days was at hand. It took more than
a century for them to stop
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Erik wrote
Understood. People disagreeing with you must respect you, but you don't
On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:26:23PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Yet, he has also clearly stated that there are some people that he feels
hold an immoral position that he disagrees with. Thus, the reasonable
hypothesis is that he respects some, but not all, of the people he
disagrees with.
Eh?
Robert defends the virtue of St. Julia:
Wow!
Going after the most consistently inoffensive person on this list with
an insult.
Not just that, But Julia is the heart and soul of this little
community.
I bet you spend your Tuesday nights repeatedly dialing the American
Idol phone lines and
David Hobby thinks I've mischaracterized his position:
David Hobby thinks that workers are coerced into taking
dangerous jobs
and that government can make us all safe:
Mike-- If you mischaracterize my position, I won't discuss
things with you. Basta.
I'll address both of my
Andrew, probably not meaning what I think he means:
Nicely put Dan. It would seem the most enery efficent too,
and the most sensible. From all angles, except perhaps that
of the delusional paranoids trying to hang onto power in a
changing world.
Nice description of the New York Times
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:26:23PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Yet, he has also
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reading your post this way, you appear to miss his
point. His complaint
was about people who put virtually everyone they
disagree with in the
immoral category. The complaint was not that
liberals thought some
conservatives, like Lott, were immoral,
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--- JDG Somehow, I don't think that Jesus would
concern himself with tax policy if he returned.
Instead, he would concern himself with individual
salvation.
In fact, early Christians thought it would not matter.
That the End of Days was at hand.
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do feel that way. I have no doubt that Gandhi
(for
example) would say that my support of violent
intervention to stop mass killings (in Iraq, but
also,
for example, in Rwanda) is actively immoral. Thomas
Jefferson, to pick another example,
A lot of 'christians' still hold this meme. They
are so obsessed with
Armageddon coming or the rapture that they literally
throw their lives
and lives of their children down the toilet.
Jehovah's Witnesses are
especially prone to this kind of thinking. But it
goes further than
that.
--- Damon Agretto
After all if Dog's going to destroy it all
anyway...
Replace a lot with some and I think you'd be
much closer to actuality...
I agree, but mainly in the context of the sub-meme of
American tolerant enlightenment pragmatism. Those who
reject this sub-meme often go the
I just came across this article trying to envision what a realistic space
navy might be like:
http://www.denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2004/04/SpaceNavies2.shtml
(http://tinyurl.com/2xmzr)
(The article is pasted below as well)
His biggest concern seems to be the matter of heat dissipation, which
At 06:18 PM 22/04/04 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks for sending this.
My response is complex so please let me put it into
context.
snip
... and so on. The latest, attacking Kerrey's war
record, shows just how biliously crazy these people
are.
6) It is rooted, of course, in the us-vs-them
attitude
Did you write that all by yourself? I bet not. A plagiarized parody of a
parody. Yeah, that's about your speed.
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On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:41:25PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
or support killing
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