According to http://www.spaceweather.com/
there is a great display of Northern Lights right now:
AURORA ALERT: If it's dark where you live, look for auroras now. A
strong geomagnetic storm is in progress, sparking Northern Lights as
far south as West Virginia, Ohio, the Carolinas, Colorado and
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/257979a6-30f4-11d9-a595-0e2511c8.html
Were boned.
-
Larry Brennan - Bush said he hit the Trifecta last time. What do you call
it when four of your horses come in?
Ellen - The Apocalypse?
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JDG wrote:
Again, So far as I know, exit poll results were not released by
precincts. Heck, so far as I know, exit poll results were not released
by county. Thus, it is very difficult to correlate exit polls to actual
results.
Maybe there is one way to eliminate fraud in the USA
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:42:53 -0800 (PST), Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read about a recent study on the number of
civilian deaths during
the last year in Iraq. The methodology seems, on
paper, capable of
providing at least order of magnitude accuracy (i.e.
--- Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Slate article you link to describes clustering
as a time-honored
technique for many epidemiological studies. How
does this make it
extremely bad? There are difficulties with using
clustering but this
doesn't mean it is obviously wrong which
For long term success, both Democrats and Republicans need to reframe
their ways of thinking: Democrats, because otherwise they will
continue to lose in the short run, and Republicans, because a `borrow
and spend' government will fail in the long run.
Both parties should return to their roots,
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From: Martin Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: Iraq civilian casualties.
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:42:53 -0800 (PST), Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read about
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From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Iraq civilian casualties.
The report suggests that _100,000_ people were killed. If US forces were
_trying_ to kill that many
--- Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's only plausible if you really, really
want
to believe that American soldiers are genocidal mass
murderers.
Note - this is not fair, and not at all what I should
have said. I take it back. It seems clear to me that
the _authors of the study_,
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: It seems over...
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:12:30 -0600 (CST)
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Travis Edmunds wrote:
Among the many fanciful notions contained within
http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-11-08-voa11.cfm
8 November 2004
The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, has
warned that the world faces a real threat from nuclear terrorism. Speaking
at a conference in Sydney, Mr. ElBaradei said an extensive black market in
--- Ruben Krasnopolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to http://www.spaceweather.com/
there is a great display of Northern Lights right now:
AURORA ALERT: If it's dark where you live, look for auroras now. A
strong geomagnetic storm is in progress, sparking Northern Lights as
far
On Nov 6, 2004, at 9:02 AM, John D. Giorgis wrote:
I don't agree with everything in here, but this piece is outstanding,
and
should be read by everyone interested in electoral politics to at least
consider the ideas he presents.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/06/opinion/06brooks.html?hp
If
On Nov 6, 2004, at 7:42 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote:
A convenient opportunity to insert the following attempt at humor.
Nothing more.
I wrote:
I'd ask your sensei to allow you to spar with some of the advanced
guys. If this is not possible during class, see if you can get some
of the advanced
From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wis. City's Schools Allowing Creationism
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2004 20:48:48 -0500
If I taught the subject, I WOULD cover creationism.
It would take twenty
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From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: Iraq civilian casualties.
The most important systematic problem was the selection of the nominal
death rate. There were a
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From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Wis. City's Schools Allowing Creationism
From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wis. City's Schools Allowing Creationism
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:06:53 -0600
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From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Any monkey can do it (was - Re: Br!n: An inital note about
theteen-rmath)
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:49:20 -0800
On Nov 6, 2004, at 7:42 PM, Travis Edmunds
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Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:15 PM
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To: Killer Bs
On Nov 6, 2004, at 11:02 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote:
John wrote:
This is, of course, my point. Throughout human history one group of
humans has sought to define a nother group of humans that are not
like us in some way, as not having the full rights of humanity. In
every previous case, we have gone
On Nov 5, 2004, at 10:33 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I ask you who's being really conservative when
peaceniks insist that
détente is almost always preferable while hawks
scream for gore and
ivory towerians pontificate about verification and
--- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First they came for the single moms
and I did not speak out
because I was not a single mom.
Then they came for welfare cheats
and I did not speak out
because I was not on welfare.
Then they came for the gays
and I did not speak out
because I was not
On Nov 8, 2004, at 12:04 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First they came for the single moms
and I did not speak out
because I was not a single mom.
Then they came for welfare cheats
and I did not speak out
because I was not on welfare.
Then they came for the gays
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/weekinreview/07kirk.html?oref=loginoref=loginpagewanted=printposition=
or http://tinyurl.com/4p74z
Requires registration; go to bugmenot.com and get a login if you need one
and (like me) can't remember the list one. :)
Julia
Beginning of article:
One more calculation: according to the statistics for Falluja, 33 people
died from violent deaths out of the one cluster sampled in Falluja in
August and September. This would mean that there were more than 100,000
deaths in Falluja in those two months.and the people doing the study didn't
blink.
To shift gears from politics, I have a question: what's the
protocol for discussing books and movies on this list?
I saw THE INCREDIBLES twice this weekend (it's fantastic, IMAO),
and there are aspects in the movie that I'd like to discuss
here, because they seem to touch on aspects of Dr. Brin's
So I was reading the following article on the Beeb:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3993339.stm
It made me wonder. Fusion power is often hailed as the
cleanest source of potential energy being looked at
to supply future energy needs. Everyone knows it works
by fusing hydrogen into
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From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:40 PM
Subject: Fusion Power
So I was reading the following article on the Beeb:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3993339.stm
It made me
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 05:19:44 -0800 (PST), Chad Underkoffler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To shift gears from politics, I have a question: what's the
protocol for discussing books and movies on this list?
Politics only! There will be absolutely no discussion of books and
movies on this list!
To shift gears from politics, I have a question: what's the
protocol for discussing books and movies on this list?
If its something recent, and you're going to talk specifics, definitely put
SPOILERS somewhere in the subject line, and also provide some white space
at the beginning of the
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From: Chad Underkoffler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:19 AM
Subject: Shifting Gears: Talking about THE INCREDIBLES?
I saw THE INCREDIBLES twice this weekend (it's fantastic, IMAO),
and there are aspects in the movie
Bryon Daly wrote:
Just post your thoughts on the movie, I'd like to hear them because
I'm really looking forward to seeing The Incredibles with my wife
at some point when we can get a baby sitter.
It was friggin' great. Pixar does it again. Much like most of their films, it
has themes that
Robert Seeberger wrote:
The Message in The Incredibles is a bit more subtle. The dream
of having the power to change the world for the better is there,
but a sense of helplessness to actually make lasting changes is
also present, and this is the struggle portrayed in the film.
*nods* There
You might want to look for the son of a good friends of ours, who's also a
nice guy on his own: Travis Hathaway in the credits. He is in the first
group of animators. He was the youngest computer animator hired by Pixar.
Dan M.
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Channel this Wednesday night,November 10th. Please
check your local TV listings for air times.
I expect I'll be on it.
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Bryon Daly wrote:
Just kidding! Just post your thoughts on the movie, I'd like to hear
them because I'm really looking forward to seeing The Incredibles with
my wife at some point when we can get a baby sitter. (Yeah, we're
going to leave the kids home to go see it).
So are we. :)
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bryon Daly wrote:
Just kidding! Just post your thoughts on the movie, I'd like to hear
them because I'm really looking forward to seeing The Incredibles with
my wife at some point when we can get a baby sitter. (Yeah, we're
going to leave
So, apropos of our recent discussion, John Perry
Barlow, a very smart guy, just cited the 100,000 dead
Iraqi casualty figure as if it were true. Apparently
no one has shown him the falsification yet. It's
amazing how easy it is for reasonable people to buy
such things. Imagine what it will be
At 11:02 PM 11/6/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote:
John wrote:
This is, of course, my point. Throughout human history one group of
humans has sought to define a nother group of humans that are not like
us in some way, as not having the full rights of humanity.In every
previous case, we
At 07:50 PM 11/8/2004 -0800 Gautam Mukunda wrote:
So, apropos of our recent discussion, John Perry
Barlow, a very smart guy, just cited the 100,000 dead
Iraqi casualty figure as if it were true. Apparently
no one has shown him the falsification yet. It's
amazing how easy it is for reasonable
--- JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:50 PM 11/8/2004 -0800 Gautam Mukunda wrote:
So, apropos of our recent discussion, John Perry
Barlow, a very smart guy, just cited the 100,000
dead
Iraqi casualty figure as if it were true.
Apparently
no one has shown him the falsification yet. It's
After an enjoyable late evening Friday with David Brin, David Land and a
few others who aren't on the list, I got up Saturday morning and
headed to Modesto, where my wife already was, to help get things ready
for her baby (our fourth grand-child), who was due around Thanksgiving.
We headed
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Julia Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, John D. Giorgis wrote:
Finally did a little better last week, going 10-5, 62-54 for the year.
Thanks to the NY Giants taking the Minnesota Vikings to the house for the
second straight year, the Upset Special is a very
John wrote:
What is more likely, that Kerry really won PA by 7% and that a State
with a Democratic governor fixed the vote for Bush, or that the
pre-election polls showing PA to be very close were right and the exit
polls were simply
systematically wrong in some way?
Why are the exit polls all
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are the exit polls all off in the same direction
- in favor of Kerry?
--
Doug
We're looking at that issue right now, actually. Two
complementary initial guesses, but they're both just
that. Exit polls tend to be taken in
higher-population
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From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: `Urban legend' or fraud?
John wrote:
What is more likely, that Kerry really won PA by 7% and that a State
with a Democratic
Gautam wrote:
We're looking at that issue right now, actually. Two
complementary initial guesses, but they're both just
that. Exit polls tend to be taken in
higher-population districts.
Well how stupid is that? Why in the hell would they bias their polls in
such a way as to make them useless?
John wrote:
Therfore, I do feel quite comfortable in saying that the comparison
doesn't hold.After all, nobody here says I'm personally opposed to
killing
gays, but I don't want to impose my morality on other people by voting to
make killing gays illegal.
I see how you rationalize it John,
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