Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/08/2006, at 12:33 PM, jdiebremse wrote: The US has also been a leader in the crisis in Sudan. :-o I'm just going to have to withdraw from this thread. Charlie Different Realities Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is if you're replacing him with a vacuum. Saddam could have > waited > another 6 month or a year, with more and more pressure. The > "Coalition" could have genuinely won the "hearts and minds" of the > Iraqis. There must have be

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-05 Thread William T Goodall
On 6 Aug 2006, at 2:06AM, Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:01 PM Isn't the real question about whether the state owns one's body or oneself? And how wome

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:01 PM Saturday 8/5/2006, William T Goodall wrote: On 5 Aug 2006, at 11:59PM, Dan Minette wrote: If a women died trying to abort in a back alley, that is certainly a human death. But, from the right-to-life movement's perspective, 500 deaths of women attempting abortion must be weighted a

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-05 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of William T Goodall > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:01 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex > > > On 5 Aug 2006, at 11:59PM, Dan Minette

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-05 Thread William T Goodall
On 5 Aug 2006, at 11:59PM, Dan Minette wrote: If a women died trying to abort in a back alley, that is certainly a human death. But, from the right-to-life movement's perspective, 500 deaths of women attempting abortion must be weighted against the deaths of millions of people when women

Re: Since planetary science has been ruled "on-topic" :)

2006-08-05 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:47 PM Saturday 8/5/2006, Dave Land wrote: Fine, then. If that's the case, I suppose that lunar orbital dynamics are not entirely off topic, Sorry 'bout that. I forwarded the message from another list and forgot to change the subject line (which referred to a comment made in an earli

Re: What be WMD, me hearties? Aaaaarrrrrrrrr!

2006-08-05 Thread Julia Thompson
Charlie Bell wrote: On 06/08/2006, at 7:13 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Modernized now. Pop culture topicalised now... It's always fun when pirates are in fashion. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: What be WMD, me hearties? Aaaaarrrrrrrrr!

2006-08-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/08/2006, at 7:13 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Modernized now. Pop culture topicalised now... Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/08/2006, at 3:19 AM, Dan Minette wrote: Given the situation, I don't think there was a way to ratchet up pressure from what it was. The US was forward deployed and combat ready in a way that it wasn't ready to sustain for a year. Because of the way they ramped up. There was a UN

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Andrew Crystall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It was not an "error" to overthrow Saddam. Sure, your government > lied to you about the reasons, Which lies were these? JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-05 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 5:34 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex > > > And I was refusing to have my pro-choice

Re: Since planetary science has been ruled "on-topic" :)

2006-08-05 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Dave Land wrote: > > If that's the case, I suppose that lunar orbital dynamics > Long time ago, I used to work on this topic... > are not > entirely off topic, so you may enjoy reading about "3753 Cruithne", > Earth's "second moon", with its very unusual compound "kidney > bean"/"horseshoe" orbit

RE: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-08-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell > > > Dan Minette wrote: > > > > >DanM wrote: > > <> > > > ...The thesis is that the mother and > > > society owe the child at least a chance at life. > > > For a right-to-life > > > person, every child has an inalienable ri

Re: Since planetary science has been ruled "on-topic" :)

2006-08-05 Thread Dave Land
Fine, then. If that's the case, I suppose that lunar orbital dynamics are not entirely off topic, so you may enjoy reading about "3753 Cruithne", Earth's "second moon", with its very unusual compound "kidney bean"/"horseshoe" orbit with a period around the "kidney bean" of about 380 days, while t

Re: Once more into the 9-11 breach

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060805/ap_on_go_ot/sept11_commission_7 The Sept. 11 commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by the Pentagon and FAA about their response to the 2001 terror attacks that it considered an investigation into possible deception, the panel's cha

Re: What be WMD?

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Dan Minette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Killer Bs Discussion'" Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:20 PM Subject: RE: What are WMD? > Correct the header. :-) > > Dan M. Modernized now. xponent Header Follies Maru rob

RE: What are WMD?

2006-08-05 Thread Dan Minette
Correct the header. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Charlie Bell > Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 8:49 AM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate > > > On 05/08/2006, at 11:34 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote:

What is WMD?

2006-08-05 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:45 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: RFK Jr. interview > > On 8/4/06, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It is in the first Key

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 5 Aug 2006 at 23:49, Charlie Bell wrote: > > On 05/08/2006, at 11:34 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > > > > > It was not an "error" to overthrow Saddam. Sure, your government lied > > to you about the reasons, and by all means call them to account for > > it, but overthrowing that sort of unstabl

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Nick Arnett
On 8/5/06, Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It was not an "error" to overthrow Saddam. Sure, your government lied to you about the reasons, and by all means call them to account for it, but overthrowing that sort of unstably dangerous tyrant isn't a mistake. That's part of what re

Re: First Freedom First

2006-08-05 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 3 Aug 2006 at 11:43, Dave Land wrote: > Folks, > > I just signed a petition at http://firstfreedomfirst.org/ aimed > at ensuring freedom of -- and from -- religion in America. It is > sponsored by Americans United for Separation of Church and State, > among others. I'm for that, too. 'Far as

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/08/2006, at 11:34 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: It was not an "error" to overthrow Saddam. Sure, your government lied to you about the reasons, and by all means call them to account for it, but overthrowing that sort of unstably dangerous tyrant isn't a mistake. It is if you're replacing

Re: More From the National Intelligence Estimate

2006-08-05 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 4 Aug 2006 at 8:48, Nick Arnett wrote: > Now that you have read this, surely you cannot still believe that the > administration's arguments for the were supported by the intelligence. How > do we deal with this? An easy answer would be to blame conservatives and > run to the left. But blame