Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/09/2006, at 2:52 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/18/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't that not a tautology at all, but one of the basic assumptions about peer-review in science? Only for scientists who treat theories as if they were facts. ...'cause there's no such thing a

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's not the language of triage, Nick. That's the language of an abortion is just as good as any other choice. Ever had to make a real triage decision? A life-and-death one? John, there are *no* "good" choices in a triage decision. That'

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is not the logical conclusion of this that we should have an all-volunteer army, lest soldiers make money in a cause for which people are giving their very lives?Or at least to only pay a death stipend? No, that's not a logical conclusion a

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, jdiebremse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Isn't that not a tautology at all, but one of the basic assumptions about peer-review in science? Only for scientists who treat theories as if they were facts. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 _

Re: 9/11 conspiracies or why the Red Sox collapsed

2006-09-18 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 9/18/2006 9:58:12 A.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > He has, > rather remarkably, gone from being a truly atrocious > shortstop to one who is basically average (he was > significantly better than average last ye

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/15/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage decision. > > > > > > Wow. Finally a view that really gets to the heart of it. Thanks, Nick. > > > > > > I may use tha

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think there is an economic formula in existence that justifies > making money in a cause for which people are giving their very lives. Is not the logical conclusion of this that we should have an all-volunteer army, les

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Nick Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/17/06, Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > But for this type of > > conspiracy to have occurred - one in which the towers > > were destroyed by explosives inside the building, and > > then the evidence of this s

Re: Week 2 NFL Picks

2006-09-18 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > John D. Giorgis wrote: > >NY Giants at Philadelphia - Pick: EAGLES > > How about them Giants?? I can't believe they turned that around, as > they were being soundly whupped for the first 40 minutes of the game. > Though I ha

Whose Ox is Gored?

2006-09-18 Thread Dave Land
Folks, Time and time again, the charge is leveled by one Brineller against another that the accused would not be so outraged (at least to the point of posting to Brin-L) over some political or religious shenanigans if the result had favored his or her position. A recent example: Those of us who

Re: 9/11 conspiracies or why the Red Sox collapsed

2006-09-18 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 9/18/2006 9:58:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He has, rather remarkably, gone from being a truly atrocious shortstop to one who is basically average (he was significantly better than average last year, I think). OK - maybe you will grant tha

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/18/06, Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He wasn't well connected, he did not have inside information. He just knew the subject matter. There are thousands of structural engineers who should have been able to see the holes in the explanations of the collapse of the towers if the hole

RE: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Dan Minette
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Nick Arnett > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:43 AM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there > is no reliable information?) > > On 9/17

Re: Waaaaaaay behind...

2006-09-18 Thread David Hobby
Julia Thompson wrote: I had surgery on September 7 and am now just starting to read listmail again. If you need anything from me, direct e-mail is the best way to reach me. (My hernia is fixed, and for the first time since the twins were born, my abdominal muscles do not have a gap between t

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-18 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: On 6 Sep 2006, at 8:33PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But it requires too much thinking to conclude that - and atheists are no smarter than fundamentalist theists, and will be satisfied with short-range egoistical goals. Short-term egoistical goals for theists mean "do goo

Waaaaaaay behind...

2006-09-18 Thread Julia Thompson
I had surgery on September 7 and am now just starting to read listmail again. If you need anything from me, direct e-mail is the best way to reach me. (My hernia is fixed, and for the first time since the twins were born, my abdominal muscles do not have a gap between the left side and the r

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-18 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/18/2006 12:26:00 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They also took to wearing kilts, those naughty Scots . . . More room for the sheep. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:57 AM Monday 9/18/2006, Klaus Stock wrote: The people in Scotland also cut down most of the trees in order to have more room for sheep. They also took to wearing kilts, those naughty Scots . . . Baa! Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccm

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-18 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 18, 2006, at 8:00 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 9/15/06, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's one, though: NOBODY in the Clinton admin was called by ANYBODY in Afghanistan who was ready to "pick up the package" or whatever was their code for capturing Bin Laden and refused to give t

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-18 Thread Klaus Stock
> Think of Mesopotamia. When it was the cradle of civilization it was the > fertile > crescent. Now it is mostly desert (that is it is Iraq). How did this happen? I guess Bush has the answer to that :-) > Over time the people living in the region degraded the environment (cut down > the tre

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, Andrew Crystall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 15 Sep 2006 at 6:39, Nick Arnett wrote: And there are people out there who use that argument to say any game involving violence shouldn't make a profit either. Or gun makers for the civilian market. Or... For what it's worth, I try to

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Klaus Stock
> be a conspiracy of the type alleged, thousands of > _perfectly ordinary_ people would have to be involved. There was an estimate that in the GDR, one out of seven persons worked for the Stasi ("Staatssicherheit" = "state security"), in one way or the other. Most were of course IMs ("Inoffizielle

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's one, though: NOBODY in the Clinton admin was called by ANYBODY in Afghanistan who was ready to "pick up the package" or whatever was their code for capturing Bin Laden and refused to give the authorization. The film included such a scene, c

Re: 9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/17/06, Gautam Mukunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But for this type of conspiracy to have occurred - one in which the towers were destroyed by explosives inside the building, and then the evidence of this suppressed after the attacks - then literally thousands of people would have to be inv

Re: 9/11 conspiracies or why the Red Sox collapsed

2006-09-18 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Good to here from you. So even though you are > clearly wrong about 9/11 > (everyone knows that it was a mutant energizer buddy > sent by the Bush daughters > because they could not count up to 103 and were > therefore insulted by the > towers) I hope you h