Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:48 PM, John Williams wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > > > I'd estimate the efficiency of my gmail filter is 99% or better. > > That is a particularly uninformative statistic. > > Much more interesting would be two figures: probability of fal

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:48 PM Thursday 7/9/2009, John Williams wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > I'd estimate the efficiency of my gmail filter is 99% or better. That is a particularly uninformative statistic. Much more interesting would be two figures: probability of false positive

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: > I'd estimate the efficiency of my gmail filter is 99% or better. That is a particularly uninformative statistic. Much more interesting would be two figures: probability of false positives ( number of real marked as spam / number of real), a

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Andrew wrote: > > The spam filter on Pegaus Mail works fine for me, and it's mine > rather then being in the control of a company which is going to scan > my emails. I've yet to find (and this includes gmail) another filter > which is more than 90% accurate for me. > I'd estimate the efficiency o

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread xponentrob
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Bostwick" To: "Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion" Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:37 PM Subject: Re: Google Operating System > > Sounds like you might know the right people to ask for a tour*. ;) > > (*one not involvng "Space Center Houston"..

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Rceeberger wrote: On 7/9/2009 11:15:40 AM, Bruce Bostwick (lihan161...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: "At the risk of being flamed, I might also point out that NASA has long since forbidden any primary functionality on ISS from running on Windows platforms because of stabi

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Rceeberger
On 7/9/2009 11:15:40 AM, Bruce Bostwick (lihan161...@sbcglobal.net) wrote: >"At the risk of being flamed, I might also point out that NASA has long >since forbidden any primary functionality on ISS from running on >Windows platforms because of stability concerns -- if it's onboard and >actua

Re: Mention of David Brin

2009-07-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:07 PM Thursday 7/9/2009, hkhenson wrote: snip (considerable) On the other hand, also coming into my screen today was a blog entry from The Oildrum, specifically a guest blog under the byline of "Gail the Actuary" in which an expert on space-bas

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:35 PM Wednesday 7/8/2009, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Rceeberger wrote: > I don't see how turning your PC into a dumb terminal could be considered an advance. > I'm not storing my stuff on Google's servers. My impression is that the "Chrome OS" will allow you to

Mention of David Brin

2009-07-09 Thread hkhenson
snip (considerable) On the other hand, also coming into my screen today was a blog entry from The Oildrum, specifically a guest blog under the byline of "Gail the Actuary" in which an expert on space-based solar power explained how a new approach to

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 8 Jul 2009 at 23:43, Doug Pensinger wrote: > Charlie Wrote > > ...and Google already have one. It's called Android, plus there's gOS which > > Google had hefty input into. And there are miriad other Linuces and BSDs to > > try, up to and including Darwin/OSX. So I'm with Will (you can pick > >

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Who says M$ won't have users pay to play M$-Linux? It's possible that the worse nightmare of the free-software jihad community happens: M$ may embrace, extend and then extinguish Linux. The way they "embraced and extended" the Web with Inter

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bruce Bostwick wrote: > >> Not to mention that changing Windows virtual monopoly to *Nix >> monopoly is _very bad_ for the development of new techs. > > How would migrating to a larger user base for *nix be bad for the > development of new techs? > Because Monopoly is Evil. > Other than by bre

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something that can

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Dave Land wrote: I am not like our friend Mario with his "57 Varieties" approach to operating systems. I use Mac OS X almost exclusively because operating system fit and finish matter to me. (This is not a statement of superiority to Mario, merely noting a diffe

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Bruce Bostwick wrote: > > (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice > that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a > shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into > something that can displace Windows as a full-functioning OS

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Bostwick wrote: (As far as why .. well, it's possible that Google has taken notice that Microsoft has been promoting Bing pretty heavily, and this is a shot across their bow. If Chrome OS succeeds, and evolves into something that can displace Windows as a

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/07/2009, at 12:53 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 09/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, John Williams wrote: My impression is that the "Chrome OS" will allow you to avoid just what you say above. It is an actual OS, although probably "OS lite" woul

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: > > On 09/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, John Williams wrote: >> My impression is that the "Chrome OS" will allow you to avoid just >> what you say above. It is an actual OS, although probably "OS lite" >> would be a better term. > > ...and Google already h

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html It's brilliant start to finish, but I especially liked: Trying to make an OS out of Chrome is like saying you're going to turn a Pontiac Aztek into a st

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Dave Land wrote: >    http://bit.ly/1m1rVP > > or, if you prefer full-blooded URLs: > > >  http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009/07/lets-all-take-deep-breath-and-get-some.html > > It's brilliant start to finish, but I especially liked: > >    Trying to make an OS out of

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Alberto Monteiro
John Williams wrote: > > My impression is that the "Chrome OS" will allow you to avoid just > what you say above. It is an actual OS, although probably "OS lite" > would be a better term. It will be able to run programs on your own > CPU, provided they conform to whatever API google is coding, an

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie Wrote ...and Google already have one. It's called Android, plus there's gOS which > Google had hefty input into. And there are miriad other Linuces and BSDs to > try, up to and including Darwin/OSX. So I'm with Will (you can pick > yourselves up at your leisure). Don't see the point of Chr

Re: Google Operating System

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 09/07/2009, at 1:35 PM, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Rceeberger wrote: I don't see how turning your PC into a dumb terminal could be considered an advance. I'm not storing my stuff on Google's servers. My impression is that the "Chrome OS" will allow you to av