Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer)

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Sharkey
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: >Can we change the name of the list to something more descriptive, >like "Children-L"? Nah, children actually know when to STFU. I've yet to see anyone here demonstrate that ability. :) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.exc

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Doug Pensinger
Richard wrote: There's also the killfile, which is even more effective and requires even less effort. This is the key. If you're offended by him, plonk him. That said I'd like to point out that personal attacks rarely if ever win debating points. IMO you weaken your position considerably by st

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer) > If > you

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 01:30:33PM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote: > You do not need to sign anything to agree to a contract. For something like this, I do. And I did not agree. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mail

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> That is irrelevant on whether or not you or I agreed > to a contract. One > does not legally enter a contract by sending an > email. One enters into > a contract by signing one's name to a contract that > is clearly worded > as such. Which I did not do. In fact, when that list > was first written

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:46:04PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > Can we change the name of the list to something more descriptive, like > "Children-L"? How about, censorship-of-all-none-inane-idiotic-one-liner-posts-L? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Request for Admin Action

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:45:40PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: > Don't worry, you haven't done anything different to change my opinion > that your posts are, on balance, not worth my time to read - but we've > been through that before ... > Which still leaves the question as to why you find th

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
Can we change the name of the list to something more descriptive, like "Children-L"? ;-) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Request for Admin Action

2004-03-13 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:01 PM 3/13/2004 -0330 Travis Edmunds wrote >> > Did you agree to the US Constitution? >> >>So, you're reading my posts now, huh? I must be doing something >>wrong. No Erik, I just happen to see your quotes in other members' posts. Don't worry, you haven't done anything different to c

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: FascistCensorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: FascistCensorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:25:31 -0500 On Sat, Mar 13,

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:18:33PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: > Did you agree to the US Constitution? So, you're reading my fucking posts now, huh? I must be doing something wrong. Fuck! -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.m

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004, Damon Agretto wrote: > Actually, you did. So now you want to control not only what I can write, but you also want to decide what I agreed to? What's next, do you want to take over where Saddam Hussein left off? Sheesh, and he says I have issues. > Erik you must have some i

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:45:06 -0500 &

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:03 PM 3/13/2004 -0800 Damon Agretto wrote: >> Okay, then pay up, Damon. >> >> http://erikreuter.net/damon.html Erik, Did you agree to the US Constitution? JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: FascistCensorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: FascistCensorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:27:28 -0500 On Sat, Mar 13,

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> Okay, then pay up, Damon. > > http://erikreuter.net/damon.html Erik you must have some issues. Such an agreement is not valid as YOU do not own Brin-L. If you can provide such ownership, make proof available to the list. Damon. = --

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:51:42AM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote: > Actually you did, Erik. Are you not using the service as of now? Have > you in the past used the service? To what extent have you used the > service? Okay, then pay up, Damon. http://erikreuter.net/damon.html -- Erik Reuter ht

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> > Actually, you did. It clearly states that WE > AGREE. > > Actually, I did NOT. Actually you did, Erik. Are you not using the service as of now? Have you in the past used the service? To what extent have you used the service? By using the service, you implicitly agree to obey the guidelines.

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:16:14 -0500 On Sat, Mar 13,

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:36:29AM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote: > Actually, you did. It clearly states that WE AGREE. Actually, I did NOT. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> Damon, read what you wrote, they are "guidelines", > not rules. One does > not "flagrantly violate" guidelines. I certainly > never agreed to any > hard and fast rules, and I certainly do not agree to > never do anything > that is mentioned in the guidelines. I only agree to > something if it

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:22:56AM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote: > Erik wrote: > > I'm not aware of any list rules to be "flagrantly violated". > > Erik, go to the bottom of this message (and EVERY Bin-L > message). Click on that link. Look under "About Brin-L." Click on > Ettiquete Guidelines. Go

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:47:37PM -0330, Travis Edmunds wrote: > Erik wrote: > >[{Aww, pooor Jonn. Can't figure out how to use the delete key > >and gets his itsy bitsy brainy-wainy all worked up about it. Aww.}] > Check out what's in those brackets... > > Do you smell it? > >

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> I'm not aware of any list rules to be "flagrantly > violated". Erik, go to the bottom of this message (and EVERY Bin-L message). Click on that link. Look under "About Brin-L." Click on Ettiquete Guidelines. Go to the bottom where it says "We further agree that:" 3rd Clause. Also take not of the

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:53:55 -0500 If you'

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 03:38:29PM -0330, Travis Edmunds wrote: > And it just so happens that certain words, deemed profanity, are > frowned upon here. It just so happens that they are not "frowned upon" here, also. It just so happens that

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:57:17 -0500 Nick and Julia,

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:46:48AM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote: > But two can play this game: We'll concede (for now, for argument's > sake) that the Fool has a right to be onboxious, offensive, and > flagrantly violate list rules. I'm not aware of any list rules to be "flagrantly violated". > Un

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> He should have the right. Whether I think he should > exercise it as often > as he does is another matter. But he should have the > right. Unfortunately, this is a PRIVATE list, and whether the Fool has the right to do or not is entirely up to the listowners. But two can play this game: We'll

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 09:47:39AM -0800, Damon Agretto wrote: > What gives you the right to be discourteous and offensive on the list? He should have the right. Whether I think he should exercise it as often as he does is another matter. But he should have the right. > just parroting Brin's phi

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Damon Agretto
> I do not Believe 'profanity' exists. And other people do. Why are your beliefs so much more important than anyone elses? What gives you the right to be discourteous and offensive on the list? Do you believe in the concept of IAAMOAC or are you just parroting Brin's philosophical musings to f

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 05:10:56PM +, Richard Baker wrote: > Erik said: > > Better a fool than a self-important, human-rights denying, > > irrational, reality-challenged mind-rotted religious bigot. > Can I have an insult too? Sure, you can have it if you want it. It was not named for anyon

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Richard Baker
Erik said: >> Personally, Erik, if you really want anarchy, there's always UseNet. > > Personally, JDG, if you really don't want to read Fool's opinion, > there always the delete key. There's also the killfile, which is even more effective and requires even less effort. > Better a fool than a s

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:45:06AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: > I think that there is a difference between asking the Admins to > "ignore" the request and to "reject" the request. Your request that > Jon's request be ignored seems to be, at best, bad manners. I would hardly consider you the a

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:23:53AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Let's see what Julia and Nick say. If they feel I'm wrong, I'll let > it go. You are wrong. Let it go. I'll be very disappointed if the administrators succumb to these attacks on Fool and make any statements intended to silence him.

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread John D. Giorgis
>>Nick and Julia, I think you should ignore Jon. He seems to think he >>has a right to control other people on this list, but you should not >>help him to achieve such control. I think that there is a difference between asking the Admins to "ignore" the request and to "reject" the request. Your r

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 10:23:53AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Let's see what Julia and Nick say. If they feel I'm wrong, I'll let > it go. Mindless appeal to perceived authority. I would have expected better from you. > Nice little manipulation of my words there. Do you always argue by > twis

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 09:53:55 -0500 On Sat, Mar 13,

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 09:21:39AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > I'm sorry, but I don't have your blase attitude when it comes to being > abused by other people. If you're sorry, then stop your attempts to force your opinions on others. If you're not sorry about your intolerant attempts to abuse s

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:57:17 -0500 On Sat, Mar 13,

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer)

2004-03-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 02:18:34AM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Nick and Juilia, I formally request that The Fool be given a warning > or some sort of reprimand for this obscenity-laced post as well as > his repeated attacks over the last 6 weeks or more against John > D. Giorgis. I would like to

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorshipspreadinglike Cancer) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 01:24

Re: Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreadinglike Cancer)

2004-03-12 Thread The Fool
> From: Jon Gabriel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Profanity is not welcome." I do not Believe 'profanity' exists. > Your anonymity does not give you the right to spam this list with > uncivilized behavior.

Request for Admin Action (Was: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer)

2004-03-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fascist Censorship spreading like Cancer thruout Gov't Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:25:03 -0600 Nick and Juilia, I formally request that The Fool be given