Good points. But maybe slightly optimistic. At the end of the day,
you get what you pay for. I've not run a tour, but I can believe it's
a *lot* of work. So why not be paid for it? After all, if it works
out, if the tournament runs well and is well received, and it pays
enough that the TDs thi
How about a Bulletin Board on ukultimate.com?
Not that I don't like getting 42 roughly similar emails every day, but
there are more efficient ways than a mailing list to debate important
issues.
Dray
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Dear All,
I don't think Bex's comments were meant to be so dramatically deep cutting as
some of you seem to have taken them. I think her point was to underline a few
simple points that would/might greatly improve the quality our tournaments.
A few constructive comments might actually improv
Hi BD,
I wonder how many of you realise that proffessional event managers charge
upwards of £50 PER HOUR for pre & post event management, on top of anything
between £300 - £1000 per person per day PLUS expenses PLUS VAT.
That is just for their time BEFORE the costs of a venue & all other
suppl
1.£9754
2.I don't have any
3.I live at home and mummy pays all the bills.
4.No
5.I have had two sexual partners this calendar year
6.I have never had a sexually transmitted infection, to the best of my
knowledge
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: britdisc@near.me.uk
To: britdisc@near.me.uk
Subject
6. Do you have or have ever had any sexual diseases...
etc
Don't want to answer?
Bit personal?
I'd want an answer if I was your partner.
In -sort of- the same way members of the UKUA should be perfectly entitled
to know how much profit is being made from a UKUA official tournament. It
_is_ their
I have been listening to this for a while and I would just like to know:
1. How much do you earn a year
2. What do you on credit cards
3. What do you pay for rent / mortgage
4. do you have any alternative incomes
5. How many people have you slept with this year
6. Do you have or have ever had any s
Yes.
Adam
- Original Message -
From: "Rebecca Forth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: [BD] Worrying trend
Dear anyone still interested in the debate:
I'd just like to throw into the debate: The price of tours.
I am really beginning to feel tournament
I should point out right here and now that I have
never organised a tournament, but it seems to me that
the problem is not the high fees, rather it's a simple
supply and demand argument - if we get more bids there
is more competition which helps keep the price at a
reasonable level. The question is
Please all see below the list of Teams that have now been entered in Mixed Tour
2
Please not any responses must go to all emails above if you want to reply
1) BASIC 1
2) BASIC 2
3) SALT n SAUCE
4) SHEFFIELD STEEL
5) PLASTIC FACTORY 1
6) PLASTIC FACTORY
What do we learn from this? don't run tournaments in London!
We ran tour 2 at only Â80 per team just 3 years ago.
we donated over Â1000 to a charity (of Si Weeks' choice) and still made
profit.
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:23:02 +0100
> From: Jolyon Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subje
Hi all,
The profits TD's make vary considerably; its controlled by the number of
teams and venue costs; two factors which in turn depend on the event and
location.
Personally I encourage TDs to maximise profits (without exceeding the
accepted norm for team costs or sacrificing tournament quality
Rebecca, et al
I think tournaments are not expensive, they are not cheap, but we get
good value for money.
The whole debate about tour structure is largely due (I think?) to the
fact that the UKU did not get enough bids to split the tour and hence
overcrowded, etc etc tournaments.
So
>If it is true that the profit margins are so small then I retract my comments.
>As my points are only relevant on a profit to effort/services ratio.
perhaps next time you could contact each TD and find out the details
before writing ill thoughtout emails.
And people wonder why there are so few T
Simon,
I agree! Bex i think it is highly unfair of you to say that... i pay for our
pitches out of my own money because people cant get themselves or there teams
organised in time to pay 1 month in advance of the events... i see that MT3
Bakewell is suffering the same as Tour 3 last year w
If it is true that the profit margins are so small then I retract my
comments.
As my points are only relevant on a profit to effort/services ratio.
Maybe the first thing that needs to happen is that profits are published
or the UKU pledge that profits are capped at a certain limit, under £1500
f
On the 'do it yourself' point
My experience of running nationals 2 years ago (In London for those who can't
remember) it is not always a possibility for most of us. Putting on a tourney
generally involves going somewhere you either live near now or did do for a
long time (eg parents etc) rarely
all,
i've resisted this long, but...
--- Rebecca Forth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear anyone still interested in the debate:
>
> I'd just like to throw into the debate: The price of
> tours.
see, i hate to disagree but...
although i wouldn't like to see prices go up much more
if at all
agree. The reason for this is that we only have a relativley small number of
venues and (more importantly I think) td's. That means there is no real
competiton for Tour bids and so the people that do bid for them can charge what
they like (not in any way a dig at people that run Tour's, I'd d
Wow! Hang on a cotton pickin' minute!
I think labelling Tour TDs as some sort of used car salesmen that are
deliberately taking you for a ride is extremely unfair! We work bloody hard to
try and put on the best damn tournament we can. "Paying through the nose" -
personally I think that aro
Dear anyone still interested in the debate:
I'd just like to throw into the debate: The price of tours.
I am really beginning to feel tournament directors are charging far too
much and each year they escalate. With 50+ teams attending. The level of
profit is ridiculous and over and above for the
There was a comment in one of the many e-mails going around over the last
couple of days that the reason there isn't enough pitch time for the B-Tour or
why the A-Tour has to play lots of games in a row is that the TDs are cramming
in as many teams as possible to make as much money as possible.
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