[Cake] apologies for the email flood

2024-04-29 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
it has been a long time since I cleaned out the backlog of email in the cake mailboxes. I am hoping at least some of that did not wind up in a spam folder? Particularly to gmail? -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s Waves Podcast Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

[Cake] waves podcast is out

2024-04-29 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I did my usual bufferbloat rap on this pretty excellent podcast. What I am most proud of however, was showing off my mom´s art in this segment here, including her most powerful piece "Sad Sam". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Tmvv5jJKs Epi

[Cake] fq_codel in vyos

2024-03-03 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
It is amazing how many different ways people can do themselves in with knobs. In this case there was an off-by-1000 error in calculating the fq_codel target and interval. https://forum.vyos.io/t/what-kind-of-performance-should-be-expected-when-applying-fq-codel-on-a-shaper-policy/13841 But I am d

Re: [Cake] cake's ack-filter vs GSO

2024-02-23 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
024 at 11:39 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Dave Taht writes: > > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 8:37 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> > >> Dave Taht via Cake writes: > >> > >> > It has been years since I looked at cake's cod

Re: [Cake] cake's ack-filter vs GSO

2024-02-23 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 8:37 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Dave Taht via Cake writes: > > > It has been years since I looked at cake's code. > > > > Does anyone remember why we do not ack-filter a gso-split? > > Because a GSO packet cannot be

[Cake] cake's ack-filter vs GSO

2024-02-17 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
It has been years since I looked at cake's code. Does anyone remember why we do not ack-filter a gso-split? https://github.com/dtaht/sch_cake/blob/master/sch_cake.c#L1901 -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___

[Cake] glados does tom-tom

2024-01-30 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxIgJooqHg -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake

Re: [Cake] CAKE AQM- security

2024-01-25 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
The cake mailing list is more appropriate for this question, but as it has not come up much before, I figured I would attempt to answer it. In general, FQ and AQM technologies are more resistant to simple floods and even DDOS attacks than a FIFO. Starting with FQ first, a single DOS (or unresponsi

[Cake] cake on vyos

2024-01-24 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Fun POST and discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39101564 -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.

Re: [Cake] Ubiquity (Unifi ) Smart Queues

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
>> >> On Jan 9, 2024, at 17:05, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:40 AM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake >> wrote: >> >> Though frankly, I don’t plan on updating the sch_cake and tc binaries when >> new firmwares are released anymore, as the

Re: [Cake] Ubiquity (Unifi ) Smart Queues

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:40 AM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake wrote: > Though frankly, I don’t plan on updating the sch_cake and tc binaries when > new firmwares are released anymore, as they don’t publish the GPL archives on > their webpage after the redesign, and they don’t respond to requests f

Re: [Cake] Ubiquity (Unifi ) Smart Queues

2024-01-09 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
It is so nice to see this list come to life again. I just wanted to point out that the inbound drop rate was merely .03% in the first email. Elsewhere we keep hearing of 1-2% drop rates being common, and I just aint seeing it in any of the larger scale data I have been getting from the libreqos de

[Cake] got no idea if commscope uses cake, but

2023-12-05 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://www.commscope.com/globalassets/digizuite/956410-low-latency-home-ebook-eb-116763-en.pdf -- :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bu

[Cake] Bufferbloat.net fund drive

2023-11-22 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Donations to the core bufferbloat effort are at an all time low, $832.00/month. [1] I am presently also in the process of finalizing a response to a FCC NOI for which I will conduct another funding (and signature!) drive later this week. It is due December 1, and I hope to start circulating a roug

[Cake] a cilium bandwidth manager test series

2023-11-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://github.com/cilium/cilium/issues/29083 -- :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake

[Cake] end of an era

2023-11-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_nudist-resort-in-los-gatos-mountains-on-market-activity-7129105142087389184-UF2S -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing list Cake@list

[Cake] our stuff on a mt7628AN

2023-10-16 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
This fella (in mexico) just reflashed 200+ old cnpilot routers to the latest openwrt release. Nice results! +Nagging cambium to do the same, extra sweet. https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t/bufferbloat-on-cnpilot-19xy-platform-support-of-fq-codel-and-cake/95757 -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf

[Cake] Fwd: [NetDev-People] Cambium cnPilot 190W: New life for old hardware, improving reliability & performance with OpenWrt, fq_codel & cake

2023-10-15 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
From ewaste to something great. -- Forwarded message - From: Ignacio Ocampo via people Date: Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 1:47 PM Subject: [NetDev-People] Cambium cnPilot 190W: New life for old hardware, improving reliability & performance with OpenWrt, fq_codel & cake To: Cc: Ignacio Oc

Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results

2023-10-15 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
really lovely, thank you. I hope we can get flent fixed. That risc result was awful. Does it have BQL? Are there specs on the ethernet interface? This risc-v beaglebone just came out today: https://www.beagleboard.org/boards/beaglev-ahead On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:11 AM dave seddon wrote: > > G'

[Cake] vyos w/fq_codel and cake

2023-10-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
After successfully having got them to switch the default over to fq_codel last week, I started looking over their very old skool traffic shaping policies. Does anyone here use vyos? I used to really like it, but kind of went pure openwrt, and now very little at all. https://forum.vyos.io/t/qos-qoe

[Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results

2023-09-17 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
A huge thanks to dave seddon for buckling down and doing some comprehensive testing of a variety of arm64 gear! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HxIU_TEBI6xG9jRHlr8rzyyxFEN43zMcJXUFlRuhiUI/edit#heading=h.bpvv3vr500nw -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.h

[Cake] Fwd: [Rpm] Fwd: Firewalla App 1.56 Beta (part 1): Wi-Fi Test, CAKE and more

2023-09-06 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
anyone here have a firewalla? -- Forwarded message - From: Frantisek Borsik via Rpm Date: Wed, Sep 6, 2023 at 9:12 AM Subject: [Rpm] Fwd: Firewalla App 1.56 Beta (part 1): Wi-Fi Test, CAKE and more To: Jeremy Austin via Rpm CAKE is in 🥳 good job, Dave! All the best, Frank Fr

[Cake] Some more cakemq thoughts

2023-08-30 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
From: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tTYBPeaRdCO9AGTGQCpoiuLORQzN_bG3TAkEolJPh28/edit#heading=h.s3q8pyu1s825 ... The kernel has over 2500 places where it can drop packets, many of which have been instrumented with the “Drop_reason” facility. No qdisc has drop_reason encoded into it yet. (S

[Cake] cakemq V further thoughts

2023-08-27 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I continue to revise and edit this piece. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tTYBPeaRdCO9AGTGQCpoiuLORQzN_bG3TAkEolJPh28/edit Today I came up with two other possible objectives to tackle, so instead of re-re-re-re-rereading the above, they are: BANG mode - there are certain cases where it it kn

Re: [Cake] cakemq

2023-07-31 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
that some large ISPs' business units would be interested, but that they would to existing vendors more than someone new and shiny. > > > (I once had a nice conversation with Jason Livingood about how Comcast > Business is independent and should be thought of as having very different

Re: [Cake] cakemq

2023-07-29 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
thank you sebastian and dave for your comments and feedback so far. I would like to find other markets for cake, more statistics worth collecting, and other ideas, in the hope that we could find something fundable out of the mix. On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 9:07 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > I don&

[Cake] Fwd: been a while since I did a kernel patch

2023-07-29 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I have been meaning to make this patch use UINT_MAX and submit to the kernel for a long time. Anyone want to give it a spin? -- Forwarded message - From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 5:59 PM Subject: been a while since I did a kernel patch To: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

[Cake] cakemq

2023-07-28 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I don't know if it is possible to multithread cake or not. But I started writing the ideas up here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tTYBPeaRdCO9AGTGQCpoiuLORQzN_bG3TAkEolJPh28/edit?usp=sharing Pretty fragmentary, other use cases, other features, other mis-features, and thoughts requested. --

[Cake] mqcake

2023-07-25 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I haven't thought about it much for many years, but in order to engage the shaper, a memory area could be passed down to subcake qdiscs, as a hidden qdisc parameter, which would also keep a few other parameters in that area. A NULL would mean it is a top level qdisc. Did the lockless fifo project

[Cake] qosify ad - I think

2023-07-25 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
dynamic qos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuFWh1X1-y0 -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listi

[Cake] eevdf cpu scheduler

2023-07-23 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
is about to land in 6.6. It's interesting. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=805acf7726282721504c8f00575d91ebfd750564 -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos __

[Cake] Fwd: [PATCH v2 0/5] Rust abstractions for network device drivers

2023-07-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I have often thought that the best way to implement a multi-core capable cake was to bypass bql, qdisc, and ethernet driver entirely, writing something like the carousel virtualized driver described here: https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3098822.3098852 -- Forwarded message - Fro

[Cake] tag line for cake-autorate wanted

2023-07-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
there has been some fun suggestions over here: https://github.com/lynxthecat/cake-autorate/issues/162 - I had wanted to basically get more folk on LTE, 5G, and Starlink aware of this script and finding a way to have it hit on more queries (SEO) for optimizing those sorts of connections would be nic

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] Two questions re high speed congestion management anddatagram protocols

2023-06-27 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ccwg/ is a new wg intended to poke into these issues On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:49 PM Stephen Hemminger via Cake wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 12:47:01 -0700 (PDT) > David Lang wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, David P. Reed via Bloat wrote: > > > >

[Cake] cake in guyana

2023-06-27 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://www.facebook.com/groups/249134358750920?multi_permalinks=2161490917515245&hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos ___ Cake mailing l

[Cake] industrial lte/wifi router with cake

2023-05-13 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
The hardware from this company looks sturdy, but that is all I know about it. https://wiki.teltonika-networks.com/view/RUTX11 https://wiki.teltonika-networks.com/view/RUTX11_Traffic_Shaping -- Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ Dave Täht CSO, Lib

[Cake] equinix job role in speedy open source packetisation stuff

2023-03-19 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I have been very impressed with equinix's infrastructure in the brief time they have been supporting the libreqos project via their open source program. (thank you equinix!) so if you know of anyone that would like in on the inside... https://equinix.wd1.myworkdayjobs.com/External/job/Remote-Locat

[Cake] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt vs the cake AQM

2023-03-14 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I have been sitting on the cake related patches for this for years now, and it is my hope to get support for NQB into the next linux release, regardless of whether it gets through last call at this time, unless the selected codepoint number changes. (?) Cake (please see the man page here: https://

[Cake] big tcp

2023-02-22 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
does this break cake? https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/de811bf3-e2d8-f727-72bc-c8a754a9d...@tessares.net/T/ -- A pithy note on VOQs vs SQM: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/juniper/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.n

[Cake] Fwd: [tsvwg] CONGRESS is about ready to go

2023-02-21 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
-- Forwarded message - From: Martin Duke Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 9:25 AM Subject: [tsvwg] CONGRESS is about ready to go To: Hello transport enthusiasts, I'm pleased to announce that all the pieces are in place to move forward with congress, the working group focused on conge

[Cake] Fwd: Domos Latency Webinar Series featuring: Apple, Comcast, Vodafone, Nokia, CloudFlare, Ericsson, Ookla, GameBench, Red Hat, Daily, Bufferbloat

2023-02-21 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I absolutely could not write a better promotional piece for our upcoming latency conference march 6-8. That long, endless throbbing, bass note is the soundtrack of my life! I could call out a lot of folk doing this, notably Matt Mathis has a keynote, and Toke is talking about ebpf, and Stuart abou

[Cake] flow dissection vs encapsulated traffic?

2023-02-05 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
In looking how the code has morphed since I last looked at it, I found myself staring at this bit... skb_flow_dissect_flow_keys(skb, &keys, FLOW_DISSECTOR_F_STOP_AT_FLOW_LABEL); // so we have delved deeply into the packet at this point... finding various

[Cake] I think it is increasingly feasible to make cobalt better now against modern transports.

2023-02-01 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2109.11693.pdf -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698135607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@

[Cake] so nice to see cake just work for so many on cpe

2023-01-26 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://www.reddit.com/r/mikrotik/comments/10h86fz/experiences_with_cake/ -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698135607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets cloudflare'schristmas present

2023-01-12 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
oard satellite access, download was >> about 115kbps. >> >> Al >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Dave Taht >> > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 11:12 AM >> > To: Luis A. Cornejo >> > Cc: Jay Moran ; Cake List ; IETF &

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] [Rpm] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets cloudflare'schristmas present

2023-01-12 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Either starlink has vastly improved, or the test is way off in this case. ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake

[Cake] firewalla gains cake

2023-01-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I wish they would publish stats from their line rate fq_codel or cake instance. https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/10221985597331-Firewalla-Box-Release-1-975-App-Release-1-52#h_01GK00RM5YNBRYJ8K8BVE3WXX1 -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Bloat] [Starlink] [LibreQoS] the grinch meets cloudflare'schristmas present

2023-01-10 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
s >> >> useful as telling a pharmacist I have a fever. Not much diagnostically >> >> is going on. Take an aspirin. >> >> [RR] That’s AWESOME!! I love that analogy! >> >> >> >> RR >> >> >> >> https://e

[Cake] libreqos test of cake and ebpf pping in realtime

2023-01-06 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
fire off a bandwidth test over here (we do 5 different flent tests in a row) https://payne.taht.net/ Then pick a "plan", here, 25/3... then show tins... https://payne.taht.net/circuit_queue?id=2 So nice to see drops and marks in real time, as well as slow start... -- This song goes out to all

[Cake] some comments on cake's documentation

2022-12-22 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
over here: https://github.com/dtaht/sch_cake/issues/154#issuecomment-1363302993 -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698135607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC _

Re: [Cake] AVM seems to be shipping cake

2022-12-20 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Yay! 260 more countries to go! On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 7:46 AM Sebastian Moeller via Cake wrote: > > Dear all, > > just had a look in a recent firmware archive for AVM's fritzbox 7530, and > 'strings dsld' (dsld is AVM's single blob "magic binary dsl deamon" that > encapsulates a lot of their v

[Cake] firewalla finally playing with cake

2022-12-10 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://help.firewalla.com/hc/en-us/articles/10221985597331-Firewalla-Box-Release-1-975-App-Release-1-52 -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698135607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC _

[Cake] questions: LPM -> irq or queue mapping on the card for cake?

2022-12-02 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
all: After a pretty long layoff from kernel development of any sort of mine... we're pushing the limits again trying to get cake to support 10s of thousands of ISP subscribers, leveraging xdp for reads, and ebpf "pping" for inline monitoring of TCP rtts, then a ton of htb bins + cake for each subs

[Cake] Fwd: [PATCH net] net/sched: act_mirred: use the backlog for mirred ingress

2022-11-18 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
mirred must die. -- Forwarded message - From: Davide Caratti Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net/sched: act_mirred: use the backlog for mirred ingress To: Cong Wang Cc: Jamal Hadi Salim , Jiri Pirko , Paolo Abeni , Marcelo Ricardo Leitner , , hello

[Cake] Fwd: Yuriy.Sentrium & vyos

2022-11-14 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
If anyone would like to discuss the state of cake/smart queues with vyos, they use slack, which I'm kind of allergic to. -- Forwarded message - From: Slack Date: Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 2:18 PM Subject: Yuriy.Sentrium has invited you to work with them in Slack To: Join your team

[Cake] vyos cake

2022-11-14 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
anyone here use vyos? Looks like the cake port is back in progress over there. https://phabricator.vyos.net/T725 -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-698135607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, L

[Cake] Fwd: Our Aaron Swartz Day Celebration Starts Tomorrow!

2022-11-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
tarts Tomorrow! To: Dave Taht Join us to celebrate the life of Aaron Swartz on Saturday and Sunday, November 12th and 13th. <https://archive.us20.list-manage.com/track/click?u=38bd6154386f64fcd92204a25&id=660e5a545b&e=bea3b20d02> *View this email in your browser* <https://

[Cake] cambium QoE sure looks like cake

2022-11-03 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
From: https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/advanced-services/quality-of-experience/ "Cambium QoE platform allows you to enforce bandwidth limitations in a flexible and economical way, with the most advanced queueing technology in the market, which will deliver the best possible Quality of Ser

[Cake] QDISC_DROP_REASON project

2022-10-28 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
kernel than do it myself, so if you know anyone with even modest kernel skills willing to take it on with me, I'd appreciate it. - https://github.com/rchac/LibreQoS/issues/143 On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 1:12 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > There is a ton of grant money going around, and vario

[Cake] grant funding avail for various open source projects

2022-10-28 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
There is a ton of grant money going around, and various funds are closing at the end of this month or the next. If you know talented people that are being laid off, or just want to practice their craft in any way to make for a better internet, please pass these links along. If you know of any other

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-26 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I loved paced chirping. I also loved packet subwindows. I wish we could all agree to get cracking on working on those two things for cubic and reno rather than whinging all the time about the stuff we will never agree on. ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-20 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:32 AM Stuart Cheshire wrote: > > On 20 Oct 2022, at 02:36, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > > Hi Stuart, > > > > [SM] That seems to be somewhat optimistic. We have been there before, short > > of mandating actually-working oracle schedulers on all end-points, > > intermed

Re: [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Rpm] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-20 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 12:04 PM Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > Intel has a good analogous video on this with their CPU video here going over > branches and failed predictions. And to Stuart's point, the longer pipelines > make the forks worse in the amount of in-process bytes that ne

[Cake] A quick report from the WISPA conference

2022-10-17 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
ios and more CPE. I also picked up enough consulting business to keep me busy the rest of this year, and possibly more than I can handle (anybody looking?) I wonder what will happen at a fiber conference? > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:45 PM Dave Taht via Bloat > wrote: >> >> On

Re: [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-17 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 5:02 PM Stuart Cheshire wrote: > > On 9 Oct 2022, at 06:14, Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast > wrote: > > > This was so massively well done, I cried. Does anyone know how to get in > > touch with the ifxit folk? > > > > https://www.you

[Cake] cake anecdote from firewalla

2022-10-14 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
"My favorite anecdote regarding CAKE is one time I started a B2 backup from my NAS and removed all device-side upload restrictions (which would normally render the internet unusable from that point on). Then I fired up nvidia's game streaming on the Shield to try the Tomb Raider demo. Long story sh

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Well, we've all been yammering for many years, and the message is getting through. Yes, at this point, changing the message to be more directed at engineers than users would help, and to this day, I don't know how to get to anyone in the C suite, except through the complaints of their kids. Jim got

Re: [Cake] [Rpm] [Bloat] [Make-wifi-fast] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 9:58 AM Bob McMahon via Rpm wrote: > > > Saturate a link in both directions simultaneously with multiple greedy > > flows while measuring load-dependent latency changes for small isochronous > > probe flows. > > This functionality is released in iperf 2.1.8 per the bounce

Re: [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Rpm] [Bloat] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-11 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:57 AM Rich Brown via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > > > On Oct 10, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Bob McMahon via Rpm > wrote: > > > I think conflating bufferbloat with latency misses the subtle point in that > > bufferbloat is a measurement in memory units more than a measurement in > >

Re: [Cake] [Bloat] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-10 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I guess my question is, erik, do you sell these routers commercially? There is a huge latent market in the US that could use upgrades. ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake

Re: [Cake] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-09 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I saw you there. I made a bunch of comments this morning. But they all disappeared, possibly because I provided links to more information. On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 12:57 PM Thomas Croghan via Cake wrote: > > There seems to be quite a lot of misinformation being spread in the comments. > It might

[Cake] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

2022-10-09 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
This was so massively well done, I cried. Does anyone know how to get in touch with the ifxit folk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UICh3ScfNWI -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813560735232

[Cake] Fwd: [PATCH net-next 1/5] tcp: add sysctls for TCP PLB parameters

2022-09-29 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I've often thought that utilizing the flow label in the hash would help. But could be wrong. -- Forwarded message - From: Mubashir Adnan Qureshi Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 8:02 AM Subject: [PATCH net-next 1/5] tcp: add sysctls for TCP PLB parameters To: David Miller Cc: , Mubashi

[Cake] Oct 2-6 wispa-apalooza conference in las vegas

2022-09-20 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I am speaking (talking about rfc7567's demand for fq+aqm on everything), moderating a panel, and haunting a booth or two, guitar in hand, at this WISP-oriented conference. A lot of things I(we've) been working on this past year are coming to a head here, everything from coping with the broadband ma

[Cake] libreqos consultants wanted

2022-09-12 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I have been doing a bit of (yay! paid!) work, here or there, on libreqos, and I'm really encouraged by how well cake and the xdp stuff are working at scale. See https://libreqos.io/ or the github: https://github.com/rchac/LibreQoS Ideally something like this could be running at a lot of (especiall

[Cake] ack-monitor?

2022-09-04 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Given the success of ack filtering, and cake in the libreqos system (now scaling past 10Gbit) and pping and ebpf pping turning out to be pretty high overhead... I started to muse over here about the idea of even more detailed stats than what we get: https://github.com/rchac/LibreQoS/issues/58 I d

[Cake] keenetic uses cake

2022-09-01 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://crast.net/149182/enhanced-gaming-with-keenetic/ But with dscp precedence, oh, my! -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net htt

Re: [Cake] CAKE saves someone's job during the pandemic...

2022-08-31 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 2:39 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Cake wrote: > > I figured y'all would find this an uplifting story - I certainly did! > > https://forum.openwrt.org/t/nftables-and-qos-in-2021/112013/530 I cried. thx. > -Toke > ___ > Cake mail

Re: [Cake] [PATCH net] sch_cake: Return __NET_XMIT_STOLEN when consuming enqueued skb

2022-08-31 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
hmm. what did this break above it? just stats? or a mem leak? or? On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 2:25 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Cake wrote: > > When the GSO splitting feature of sch_cake is enabled, GSO superpackets > will be broken up and the resulting segments enqueued in place of the > original s

[Cake] cake across a 2gbit service release

2022-08-25 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
https://gist.github.com/thestinger/cc10fdebfc0062f4c9e9adce007f2dec -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.

Re: [Cake] [Starlink] starlink terminal mod chip

2022-08-23 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
> > On Sunday, August 14, 2022 12:00pm, starlink-requ...@lists.bufferbloat.net > said: > > > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2022 09:41:54 -0700 > > From: Dave Taht > > To: Dave Taht via Starlink > > Subject: [Starlink] starlink terminal mod chip > > > > It's

[Cake] gearbox fpga wfq scheduler

2022-08-18 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
among other things a normalized fairness metric... https://www.usenix.org/system/files/nsdi22-paper-gao_peixuan.pdf -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@

[Cake] paper: Testbed based analysis of Linux queue disciplines over Internet traffic mix

2022-08-08 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
This paper details the modelling of a mixed traffic testbed designed in accordance with RFC 7982, and attempts to study the performance of pie/codel/RED/fq-pie/fq-codel/cake. It's very thorough, but only tests 10Mbit and 100Mbit links. Cake wins on most of the benchmarks, fq-pie wins on others. Rea

[Cake] openwrt-22-03-rc6 released

2022-08-02 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
It's my hope that the last of the major wifi bugs plaguing openwrt have been quashed. Please test. https://forum.openwrt.org/t/openwrt-22-03-0-rc6-sixth-release-candidate/133673 Especially if you are using the ath10k, 9k, or mt76 chips. For some suggested tests see: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/a

[Cake] battlemesh conference sept 19-22 in Rome

2022-07-25 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
I am giving a talk tentatively entitled "the meshy mess". This is a pretty good technical conference consisting of a lot of core wifi (openwrt), hackerspace, and community network people, and run on the cheap, and one of the few routing interop events that exists. Hope to see some of you in person!

[Cake] pcq on mikrotik

2022-07-21 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
at some point I'd like to compare cake vs: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Queues_-_PCQ -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net

[Cake] Fwd: [RFC PATCH net-next v3 1/4] flow_dissector: Add PPPoE dissectors

2022-06-29 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
ppp makes my head hurt. so does mpls. when do we need to dissect it? -- Forwarded message - From: Marcin Szycik Date: Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 8:01 AM Subject: [RFC PATCH net-next v3 1/4] flow_dissector: Add PPPoE dissectors To: Cc: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Re: [Cake] [Starlink] How to help?

2022-06-13 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
requires some things about timings that egerouter > may not have. > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nick > > > ___ > > Starlink mailing list > > starl...@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/sta

[Cake] DMARC policy change fix for lists.bufferbloat.net

2022-06-09 Thread Dave Taht via Cake
Over the past year or three the DMARC policy change to how mailing lists were handled have been propagating across the net. I wasn't paying attention. A lot of people have been auto-unsubscribed over the last few months. I'm still working on improving the DMARC policy here... and this is a test mes

[Cake] has anyone tried openwisp for openwrt yet?

2022-06-07 Thread Dave Taht
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/openwisp-22-05-release/127397/ -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listi

[Cake] just a reminder to myself primarily

2022-06-05 Thread Dave Taht
that this is horribly, horribly out of date. https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake/ -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloa

[Cake] cake is a lie

2022-05-13 Thread Dave Taht
I knew there was a screenshot of this somewhere! https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=933076#p933003 -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bu

Re: [Cake] Latency Testing Using iOAM

2022-05-13 Thread Dave Taht
I'd been tracking that work, but had missed it actually entering the kernel. it would be cool if openwrt got on it, but it is presently 5.10 based. On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 10:04 AM Jarad Olson wrote: > > Hello! > Has anyone ever tried using in-situ OAM for testing latency? It would seem to > me

[Cake] a good survey of what's going on in P4

2022-05-11 Thread Dave Taht
Nice to see cake and fq-codel in the same paragraph, too. http://ce.sc.edu/cyberinfra/docs/publications/TCP-P4-Survey.pdf -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/ Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing lis

[Cake] 7+ years of cake

2022-05-07 Thread Dave Taht
I don't remember where the initial conversations started, when the first code landed, or who did what... But I really did enjoy just reviewing the convo here: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cake/2015-April/000896.html -- FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_

[Cake] logo: t-shirts, coffee cups, socks, hats

2022-05-03 Thread Dave Taht
It's been a couple years, has anyone come up with a good idea for logos or slogans? I'd always wanted to have given out a t-shirt at the completion of the cake and make-wifi-fast projects, it's kind of traditional, but lacking any artistic talent personally... or budget for it, never did. At the m

[Cake] goresponsiveness over slow 5g

2022-04-06 Thread Dave Taht
Pulled down the latest https://github.com/network-quality/goresponsiveness and built it with go.1.18. Some notes in #s. Tests were performed via linux kernel Linux milliways 5.4.0-80-lowlatency #90-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 9 23:56:54 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux over tethered wifi t

[Cake] libreqos adds pping integration

2022-03-14 Thread Dave Taht
https://github.com/rchac/LibreQoS -- I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC ___ Cake mailing list Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.

Re: [Cake] plotters available these days?

2022-02-07 Thread Dave Taht
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/sqm-reporting/59960/168 covers 2... On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 2:59 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > So far as I remember there were three decent efforts towards capturing > cake and fq_codel stats on an ongoing basis, and finding any one of > those > things that&#x

[Cake] plotters available these days?

2022-02-06 Thread Dave Taht
So far as I remember there were three decent efforts towards capturing cake and fq_codel stats on an ongoing basis, and finding any one of those things that's proving hard to google for today. those? any new ones? Has anyone attempted a custom snmp mib for it? mrtg? I did a small mib for fq_codel

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