Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-09 Thread Jonathan Charles
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Scott Monasmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > Sent: Tue Apr 08 20:27:48 2008 > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb > > Except there are a fairly number of CC

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Cardwell
CTED]> Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tue Apr 08 20:27:48 2008 Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb Except there are a fairly number of CCIE's who are or were Cisco Employees. Cisco employees get at least three attempts to take the lab at no cost e

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread David L. Blair
voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb I second Scott on his opinion. Just think... on the average, it takes 4 attempts to pass and each attempt cost about $1400. And how many CCIE there are in the world

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread Jacob Owen
te: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:39:54 -0500From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [OSL | > CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb > John, > > I respect your response to this post, but I can't > help but feel like I am being tested

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread Devildoc
: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:39:54 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb John, I respect your response to this post, but I can't help but feel like I am being tested more on semantics then I am on technically ab

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread Ellington, Chris
Monasmith Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:40 PM To: John Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb John, I respect your response to this post, but I can't help but feel like I am being tested more on semantics then I am on techn

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread John
day just because of that interacting and ability to defend what you have done. John. From: Erik Goppel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:49 PM To: John Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb John, i fully agree with both of

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread John
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:40 PM To: John Cc: Erik Goppel; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb John, I respect your response to this post, but I can't help but feel like I am being tested more on semanti

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread Scott Monasmith
; working it may not be the correct solution given the specific (and > oftentimes subtle) requirements of the question. > > > > John. > > > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Erik Goppel > *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2008 1:

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread John
April 07, 2008 1:40 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb The thing is, that the testscripts they run (as far as i`ve heard and experienced) only test some basic but major behaviour. And if the main parts are successfull, they wi

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread Jonathan Charles
M, Devildoc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So you are saying that all of the questions in a section are > > > inter-related > > > > > and depends on each other for full points? So if i failed one > question > > > > > that's critical for the test

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-08 Thread Devildoc
Thanks for the info. That makes total sense to me. JD Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:40:21 +0200From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb The thing is, that the testscripts they run (as far as i`ve heard and experienced) only test some

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Scott Monasmith
; > > > So you are saying that all of the questions in a section are > > > inter-related > > > > > and depends on each other for full points? So if i failed one > > question > > > > > that's critical for the test success of the other quest

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Scott Monasmith
gt; > though > > > > i get all other questions correctly, i still failed because i didn't > get > > > > first question correctly. Now that makes sense. And i thought they > > award > > > > points based on each correct question regardless of how you answer > othe

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Jonathan Charles
> first question correctly. Now that makes sense. And i thought they > award > > > points based on each correct question regardless of how you answer other > > > questions. > > > > > > JD > > > > > > > > > > > > __

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Erik Goppel
ions. > > > > JD > > > > > > > > ____ > > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:35:57 +0200 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Jonathan Charles
they award > points based on each correct question regardless of how you answer other > questions. > > JD > > > > > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:35:57 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > > Subjec

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Jonathan Charles
3:05:21 -0500 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com > > > > > Yeah, as I thought: > > > > "Reevalua

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Devildoc
lab exam and its grading process? JD Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:44:46 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb Here is an excerpt from the report card. "Your

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Erik Goppel
uestions about the lab exam and its grading process? > > > JD > > > -- > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:44:46 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [O

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Devildoc
5 Apr 2008 13:44:46 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb Here is an excerpt from the report card. "Your CCIE Certification Lab exam was scored based on grading policies th

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Ellington, Chris
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:57:39 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Devildoc, I do feel your frustration. I finished my last attempt in a little over 5 hours an

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Devildoc
But who does the re-evaluating of the score? The same proctor or a different proctor? JD> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:05:21 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb> CC: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Devildoc
That seems to me like Cisco can careless about their customer support. We are their customers. We spend lots of money to get certified, so the least they can do is providing us with feedback. If there are multiple ways to implement a solution, then how do we know which way to implement if we

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-07 Thread Devildoc
rly. Even then, i don't know if i would get points for it, so i rather concentrate my time on other sections and just leave the scripting alone. JD> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:56:34 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Fail

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Wayne Lawson at IPexpert
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jason sung Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:45 PM To: Scott Monasmith Cc: CCIE Voice Online Study List; Devildoc Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb Here is an excerpt from the report card. "Your CCIE Certification Lab ex

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread jason sung
Here is an excerpt from the report card. "Your CCIE Certification Lab exam was scored based on grading policies that are adhered to uniformly by our proctors worldwide. Marking was based on whether the answer you provided works. Candidates are not required to use a set methodology in achieving a c

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Scott Monasmith
They told me the reason why they don't hold the voice exams is because they would take up a lot more storage (hard drives/images of 3 servers, router configs, etc.) vs. just backing up a few config files from a router/switch to a text file for the R&S lab. Sorry. On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EM

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Charles
Yeah, you are right... holy crap... Due to the equipment used, rereads are not available for the Voice and Storage Networking exams. Jonathan On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What?!?!? > > > Jonathan > > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott M

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Charles
What?!?!? Jonathan On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Scott Monasmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct. BUT not available for voice though, Jonathon. > > > > > On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, as I thought: > > > > "Reevaluation of Results > > > > If you are conc

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Scott Monasmith
Correct. BUT not available for voice though, Jonathon. On 4/5/08, Jonathan Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, as I thought: > > "Reevaluation of Results > > If you are concerned your results are in error, you may request a > "reread" until 14 days after your lab date via an email to > [E

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Charles
Yeah, as I thought: "Reevaluation of Results If you are concerned your results are in error, you may request a "reread" until 14 days after your lab date via an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each reread costs $250.00 USD and consists of a proctor loading your configurations into a rack to recreate t

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Charles
There is a rescore option... isn't there? There was for the R&S... Jonathan On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Scott Monasmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Devildoc, I do feel your frustration. I finished my last attempt in a little > over 5 hours and spent the next 3 hours verifying my work. I wa

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Scott Monasmith
Devildoc, I do feel your frustration. I finished my last attempt in a little over 5 hours and spent the next 3 hours verifying my work. I walked out of the exam feeling like I nailed it. However, based on my score report, it reflected a score of about 74-76 points. There were 3 sections where the s

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Charles
I ran into the same problem with the R&S lab... there might be 3 or 4 ways to do something, but only one of them gets you points... not sure if this is the same thing on the CCIE Voice lab... but I would bet it is. No idea on how they grade the test. But I think a lot has to do with how you use t

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] First Failed Attempt at CCIE LAb

2008-04-05 Thread Devildoc
Hello All, I just had my first attempt at the Voice CCIE lab last week, and of course, i failed. I knew right away after the lab that i failed. The reason why I failed was not due to the lack of or inadequate amount of knowledge that I possessed but rather the lack of time. I was so nervous