Re: [ccp4bb] comparison of different protein states

2017-01-31 Thread Debanu Das
Dear Guillermo, I think the referee has a point because you are comparing two different proteins to propose a model of 2 states even though the enzymes are highly similar with conservation of key features. With 40% id/60% similarity, even if core domain structure and length are conserved, there ar

[ccp4bb] comparison of different protein states

2017-01-31 Thread Guillermo Montoya
Dear all, first of all sorry for this off-topic question. I am requesting your help to find some papers to convince one referee about the comparison of two different protein states. In our manuscript we show the crystal structure of an enzyme. This structure represents the enzyme after catalysi

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Debanu
Hi Sanjeev, In addition to all the excellent suggestions (trying different buffers/salts, co-expression, concentrator, incubate and set up crystallization screening, checking SPR, fusion), I have a couple more suggestions: 1) related to your question about cross-linker: do you have experimental

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D.
I agree with Engin’s suggestions. Our group crystallized a complex of mesotypsin with BPTI, where we measured an inhibition constant (approximating Kd) of 14 micromolar, by mixing the two pure proteins together in 1:1 stoichiometry. Actually we do that for a lot of our complexes with higher af

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and pymol 3D for Centos 7?

2017-01-31 Thread Xiao Lei
for Linux you need the 3-pin mini Din connectors On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Jun Dong wrote: > I have made coot and pymol 3D work with NVIDIA Quadro K5200 under Windows > 7 but I could not make it work under Centos 7. WinCoot was not able to load > big virus maps, it crashed all the time. I

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and pymol 3D for Centos 7?

2017-01-31 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Jun, on CentOS 7 it works as described at http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo#Nvidia_3D_Vision_2 , with a Quadro K620 and BenQ XL2420TX . Unfortunately this monitor type seems difficult to find nowadays. best, Kay On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:29:17 +, Jun Don

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Robbie Joosten
Adding to this: the current test set generation in freerflag has one brilliant feature and that is reproducibility. If you misplace your test set, you can reproduce the same one if you run freerflag on the same complete set of reflections. This was an excellent design choice. It has proved very

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Engin Özkan
Not observing a complex on a gel filtration run for a week complex (micromolar) is not necessarily unexpected. It all depends on your protein concentrations, the dissociation kinetics (remember, a gel filtration run is not an equilibrium experiment - it dilutes and separates your sample), etc.

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Tanner, John J.
If your goal is a crystal structure, this reference may be worth consulting. The paper describes the use of centrifugal concentrators to make a complex of two proteins that have Kd of 19 micromolar for crystallization. They mixed the two proteins and then concentrated using a membrane that all

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Ville, it actually does not affect the quality of the Rcomplete value that I am computing, so from my point of you this discussion was rather a matter of interest and you should only invest time in case someone else has a reason. Best regards, Tim On Tuesday 31 January 2017 03:54:09 PM Vil

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Debasish Kumar Ghosh
Dear Sanjeev, You can try to clone both of your gene in pET duet vector to coexpress both proteins in bacterial expression system and purify with Nickel affinity exchange chromatography (both proteins will be his tagged). This will eliminate the problem of critical mixing of both proteins in st

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Napoleao Fonseca Valadares
If your SPR data is correct, you'll need to use a micro molar protein concentration (or higher due to dilution in the column) in your analytical size exclusion chromatography assay. What concentration did you use? Also, ideally the buffers in both assays should match. And maybe your SPR data is

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Keller, Jacob
You could also try co-expressing them, pull down the complex by his tag. Also you can try equilibrating the SEC column in a low concetration of one of the proteins, if you can express enough. It is a bit surprising that you saw no peak for the complex though. Since you have SPR data, what are ko

Re: [ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread Ursula Schulze-Gahmen
We have had good luck with creating fusion proteins of the 2 proteins in question (http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14076). If you don't know how they interact, you would need to try different linker length and different order of the 2 proteins in the fusion protein. It would also be helpful to

[ccp4bb] Coot and pymol 3D for Centos 7?

2017-01-31 Thread Jun Dong
I have made coot and pymol 3D work with NVIDIA Quadro K5200 under Windows 7 but I could not make it work under Centos 7. WinCoot was not able to load big virus maps, it crashed all the time. I really want to make coot 3D work under Centos 7. Has anybody succeeded at running coot 3D in Centos 7?

[ccp4bb] For stabilizing protein-protein complex

2017-01-31 Thread sanjeev kumar
Dear all, I am trying to stabilize a protein-protein complex. Our SPR study indicates it is having micro molar dissociation constant. I tried to purify both the molecule in complex form with size exclusion chromatography (mixed both the protein in equal molar ratio and incubated at 4 degree for 1

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Ville Uski
Hi Tim thanks for the clear explanation. Currently it separately and randomly draws the flags for each reflection, but the reflections related by twin or symmetry operations (NCS is ignored) get the same flag, unless the 'NOSYM' keyword is used. This doesn't guarantee that each flag occurs the sa

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-31 Thread Yong Wang
Xiao, I had a direct connection from display port to display port that had worked for several years (Windows 7). Since last year I have been losing the stereo. Often the control panel won’t show the 120 Hz like what you saw. Sometimes I was able to forcefully add a 120 Hz resolution (using t

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Tim Gruene
Hi Ville, let's assume you have 5,000 reflections and want 50 reflections to be in the same bin (i.e. flagged with the same Rfree flag). You enumerate your reflections and create a parallel list with 50 zeros, 50 ones, 50 twos, ... 50 onehundreds. Then you run through the second list, and swap

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Robbie Joosten
Hi Tim, You could create a freerflag column of the right length outside CCP4 and then just import it into CCP4. That would save you a lot of scripting inside CCP4 context. Cheers, Robbie -Original Message- From: Tim Gruene [mailto:tim.gru...@psi.ch] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 03:

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot and Pymol 3D in Quadro M4000 Graphics Card under Windows 10

2017-01-31 Thread Johannes Cramer
Hi Xiao, did you try manually changing the Hz in the nvidia system control panel? It is somewhere under Resolution-> adapt (or something like that, sorry, I don't have an english version). There you can change the frequency. If it doesn't work and you only see a black screen, the system switches b

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Ville Uski
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 03:29:15AM +0100, Tim Gruene wrote: > I had long wondered how to flag the fields in game minesweeper with a > deterministic algorithm. When I read about 'random sort and bin' I though > this > was quite a beautiful way. I wonder if there is any reason behind not doing >

Re: [ccp4bb] variation in freerflag

2017-01-31 Thread Ville Uski
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 09:02:33PM +0100, Tim Gruene wrote: > when I ran freerflag with the keyword FREERFRAC 0.002, the number of > reflection > per flag (between 0 and 500) is very high, it varies between 17 and 1. > > Why is there such a high variation, instead of flagging always the same >