Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-20 Thread Martin Hallberg
Hi, Have you specified the right form factor for Se given the wavelength used in your experiment? anomalous formfactor [Name] [f'] [f''] You can also try the new option where you can do simultaneous SAD phasing and refinement. See: http://tinyurl.com/8on2cr You will have to upgrade from your pr

[ccp4bb] Refmac and MSE?

2008-12-19 Thread Dima Klenchin
Hello, I am at a loss on what's going on: I am refining SeMET containing structure and using REFMAC 5.2.0005 on Linux and, the same thing happening, using REFMAC 5.5.0070 on Windows. When MET were modelled, there were no difference peaks anywhere. When I changed them all to MSE, the large di

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread Pavol Skubak
The latest version with all the bugfixes will of course appear in CCP4-6.1.1. Until then, the latest binaries and source codes are available on the mentioned webpage. Pavol

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread William G. Scott
Since version 5.5.0066 is the version in ccp4-6.1.0, is there going to be a patch? On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Jan Abendroth wrote: Thanks a lot, Pavol, that indeed did the trick. refmacRwork Rfree RMSDb RMSDan 5.5.0063 0.1682 0.2118 0.0204 1.717 5.5.0066 0.1781 0.2247 0

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread Jan Abendroth
Thanks a lot, Pavol, that indeed did the trick. refmacRwork Rfree RMSDb RMSDan 5.5.0063 0.1682 0.2118 0.0204 1.717 5.5.0066 0.1781 0.2247 0.0205 1.764 5.5.0070 0.1663 0.2102 0.0204 1.719 Cheers Jan On Dec 19, 2008, at 2:21 AM, Pavol Skubak wrote: Hi Jan, the difference

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-19 Thread Pavol Skubak
Hi Jan, the difference between 5.5.0063 and 5.5.0066 is just a few bugfixes. However, unfortunately one of them introduced a new bug to 5.5.0066 which has been fixed in the later versions. Could you please upgrade to the latest version (currently 5.5.0070) from http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~garib/re

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.063 vs. 5.5.066

2008-12-17 Thread Jan Abendroth
Hi all, puzzled by an increase of R-factors when switching to the new ccp4 and along with it from refmac 5.5.0063 to 5.5.066, I took a closer look. Same refinement, same input (in fact, started from the interface with re-run job) gives distinctly different statistics. It appears to be only

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.0068 error

2008-12-10 Thread Victor Lamzin
Dear Michael, ARP/wARP should recognise this refmac version with no problem. Before typing './install.sh' just do 'refmac5 -i' to check that refmac is executed fine and CCP4 environment is setup. If the problem remains please get back to us with details on the ARP/wARP version number and com

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5.0068 error

2008-12-09 Thread Michael Jackson
Hello,   Thank you for the reply about the refmac 5.5.0066 error. I downloaded refmac 5.5.0068 but there appears to be a problem for ARPwARP to recognise the version.  I reinstalled ARPwARP and the install shell script freezes when it looks for the refmac file.

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac 5.5 error with ARPwARP7.0.1

2008-12-07 Thread Pavol Skubak
Hi Michael, thanks for your report. It turned out that 5.5.0066 has a bug causing crashes. Could you please try the latest version (5.5.0068) and let us know in case the problem would not disappear. Pavol

[ccp4bb] refmac 5.5 error with ARPwARP7.0.1

2008-12-04 Thread Michael Jackson
Hello,   I have attached a log file from a refmac refinement output that was initiated by ARPwARP (the flexwarp program in CCP4) after an initial model building was determined good.  This is the refmac model refinement when the ARPwARP program starts a separate job to refine or finalize the mode

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac newligand noexit?

2008-10-26 Thread Pete Meyer
Thanks for the quick reply. I got the noexit option for the ccp4-6.0.2 html, so you might have already started adding it. I've had no luck with 5.2.0019 (ignores either keywords, stops with new ligand message) and 5.4.0077 (ignores noexit, fatal error for continue). I'll give it a try with the l

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac newligand noexit?

2008-10-26 Thread Garib Murshudov
The keyword is make newligand continue (I need to add noexit option. It makes sense) regards Garib On 26 Oct 2008, at 22:10, Pete Meyer wrote: Hi, I'm attempting to use refmac to re-calculate a map from a published structure. Most of the time, this works with no problems. Occasionally, refm

[ccp4bb] refmac newligand noexit?

2008-10-26 Thread Pete Meyer
Hi, I'm attempting to use refmac to re-calculate a map from a published structure. Most of the time, this works with no problems. Occasionally, refmac stops with "New ligand has been encountered. Stopping now". >From the manual, I'd though that using MAKE NEWLIGAND NOEXIT should prevent this, but

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and average B factors

2008-10-06 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Saturday 04 October 2008 18:32:00 Engin Ozkan wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I was in the middle of creating a "Table 1" for a finished structure and > was puzzled by one number. It is the average B factor, especially in > the case of TLS-refined structures. In this case, the average reported >

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and average B factors

2008-10-04 Thread Juergen Bosch
Hi Engin, you are correct, you have to run TLSANL and report the corrected B- factor in your table 1. Jürgen On 4 Oct 2008, at 18:32, Engin Ozkan wrote: Hi everyone, I was in the middle of creating a "Table 1" for a finished structure and was puzzled by one number. It is the average B f

[ccp4bb] refmac and average B factors

2008-10-04 Thread Engin Ozkan
Hi everyone, I was in the middle of creating a "Table 1" for a finished structure and was puzzled by one number. It is the average B factor, especially in the case of TLS-refined structures. In this case, the average reported by refmac in the header is the average of the B factors in the pdb

[ccp4bb] Refmac NCS weights: ccp4i vs log

2008-08-30 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi, I'm having a bit of ccp4i input- vs refmac logfile disconnect: For my NCS definitions in refmac (5.5.0036), via ccp4i (v6.0.2): Input * I select "Tight main chain and medium side chain" from the dropdown. * I reset the "NCS Bfactor" weights to 10 for both "tight", and "medium" ncs r

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard

2008-08-20 Thread Louise Gourlay
Thanks to both, in the end I downloaded the new version of refmac and moved the characters, Louise - Messaggio Originale - Da: Eleanor Dodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Data: Martedi', Agosto 19, 2008 6:00 pm Oggetto: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard A: Louise Gour

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard

2008-08-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
structure with coot. Also, I forgot to say that the refinement works when I use another computer so it's something to do with mine. Thanks, Louise - Messaggio Originale - Da: Louise Gourlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Data: Martedi', Agosto 19, 2008 4:26 pm Oggetto: [ccp4bb] Refmac

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard

2008-08-19 Thread Alice Dawson
I got round this problem by downloading the most recent version of Refmac from Garib Murshudov's website. Alice Alice Dawson Division of Biological Chemistry and Drug Discovery University of Dundee Dow Street, Dundee, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard

2008-08-19 Thread Louise Gourlay
4:26 pm Oggetto: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard A: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > Dear All, > > I installed CCP4 on my Mac OS X Leopard system using fink. I > have some problems with Refmac, it doesn't refine calcium or > chlorine atoms, or any non-protein

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard

2008-08-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Can you send a bit of your PDB including the CA and CL? Eleanor Louise Gourlay wrote: Dear All, I installed CCP4 on my Mac OS X Leopard system using fink. I have some problems with Refmac, it doesn't refine calcium or chlorine atoms, or any non-protein atom in general. In the log file it do

[ccp4bb] Refmac problems on Mac OS X Leopard

2008-08-19 Thread Louise Gourlay
Dear All, I installed CCP4 on my Mac OS X Leopard system using fink. I have some problems with Refmac, it doesn't refine calcium or chlorine atoms, or any non-protein atom in general.  In the log file it doesn't recognize them and says: FORMATTED      OLD     file opened on unit  45 Logical nam

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac, twin - really low Rfactors

2008-08-14 Thread Garib Murshudov
Hi all One should be aware of some stats about twinning (and in general): 1) If you have perfect hemihedral twinning and no correlated rotational NCS then random R factors are around 40 instead of Luzzati's 58. 2) If you have perfecthemihedral twinning and you are not modelling twin then r

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac, twin - really low Rfactors

2008-08-14 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Wim, Am 14.08.2008 um 13:53 schrieb Wim Burmeister: ... Twinning has two effects: The effective ration of observations/variables decreases with increasing twinning fraction. ... I don't know how REFMAC5 handles twinning, but if the structure is simply split into two identical parts, eac

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac, twin - really low Rfactors

2008-08-14 Thread Wim Burmeister
Jan Abendroth a écrit : Hi all, kind of a weird problem - the R-factors of a refinement using the new twin refinement in refmac are low, almost suspiciously low: A good 1.9AA data set, space group H3/R3, many statistics starting with truncate's cumulative intensity distribution clearly suggest

[ccp4bb] refmac, twin - really low Rfactors

2008-08-13 Thread Jan Abendroth
Hi all, kind of a weird problem - the R-factors of a refinement using the new twin refinement in refmac are low, almost suspiciously low: A good 1.9AA data set, space group H3/R3, many statistics starting with truncate's cumulative intensity distribution clearly suggest twinning. The structu

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac out-put file header information

2008-08-08 Thread Yusuf Akhter
king the > box to complete the reflection list and extend your > input freeR set. > > Regards, > Mitch > > > -Original Message- > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yusuf > Akhter > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:20 AM > To

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac out-put file header information

2008-08-08 Thread Miller, Mitchell D.
] On Behalf Of Yusuf Akhter Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:20 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac out-put file header information Dear Mitch, I did not run uniqueify but i have added free-R flags by running xdsconv with extra command line in in-put file GENERATE_FRACTION_OF_T

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac out-put file header information

2008-08-08 Thread Yusuf Akhter
Dear Mitch, I did not run uniqueify but i have added free-R flags by running xdsconv with extra command line in in-put file GENERATE_FRACTION_OF_TEST_REFLECTIONS=0.05 Dear Leo, This 94.5% is total completeness of the data. I am pasting below the header information in that PDB file. REMARK 3

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac out-put file header information

2008-08-07 Thread Chavas Leo
Dear Yusuf -- On 8 Aug 2008, at 06:01, Yusuf Akhter wrote: My data is 95.4% of completeness at Signal/noise =-3. I noticed that in the header of out-put PDB file from Refmac shows 100% completeness. Could you precise where do you see 100% completeness in the PDB header (overall reflect

[ccp4bb] Refmac out-put file header information

2008-08-07 Thread Yusuf Akhter
Thank you very much to Artem, Lijun, Dale and Paul for giving me great suggestions regarding my earlier query on D to L amino acid residues. Now one more problem is in same 3 A structure refinement. For those who not remembered my case. I have processed a diffraction data-set at 3 A using XDS. I a

[ccp4bb] Refmac scale questions

2008-07-10 Thread Borhani, David
Hi, my refinement (Refmac_5.2.0019) in sp. grp. C2 with 2 TLS groups, bulk solvent, and overall anisotropic scaling gives the following output: - Overall : scale =1.143, B = 0.148 Babinet"s bulk solve

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac unrestrained refinement on ligands only

2008-07-04 Thread Ian Tickle
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George M. Sheldrick > Sent: 04 July 2008 13:42 > To: Matthew BOWLER > Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac unrestrained refinement on ligands only > Perhap

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac unrestrained refinement on ligands only

2008-07-04 Thread George M. Sheldrick
It would be possible with a bit of effort to apply such mixed restraints using SHELXL. However I'm not convinced that it is such a good idea, at the resolutions you are working at the geometry of the core regions will be primarily determined by the X-ray data anyway. Perhaps what we really need a

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac unrestrained refinement on ligands only

2008-07-04 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Matthew It would be easy to edit the ligand restraint dictionary & make all the sigmas very big (assuming the input CIF routines don't perform sanity checks on the values!): that would make it unrestrained to all intents & purposes. But when you say that unrestrained refinement is 'fine' wha

[ccp4bb] Refmac unrestrained refinement on ligands only

2008-07-04 Thread Matthew BOWLER
Dear All, I have looked everywhere for answers on this one with no luck... I have several structures at reasonable resolution 1.7 to 1.1A. I have performed unrestrained refinement on the model which is fine for the core protein and ligands but the surface atoms start flying off a bit. S

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4 monomer dictionary mirror?

2008-05-19 Thread Garib Murshudov
It will be available tomorrow (hopefully) afternoon. Garib On 19 May 2008, at 19:50, Thomas J Magliery PhD wrote: I am trying to upgrade Refmac from 5.2 to 5.4. I didn't download the monomer library (refmac5.4_dictonary.tar.gz) when I downloaded the executables, and I can't access the Refm

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4 monomer dictionary mirror?

2008-05-19 Thread Thomas J Magliery PhD
I am trying to upgrade Refmac from 5.2 to 5.4. I didn't download the monomer library (refmac5.4_dictonary.tar.gz) when I downloaded the executables, and I can't access the Refmac web page today. Is that file mirrored somewhere, or can someone provide it to me? Thanks. Tom -- Thomas J. Magl

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac

2008-05-06 Thread Garib Murshudov
If you are using new version of refmac from www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/YSBLPrograms/index.jsp then you can use harmonic restraints. Have a look for instructions: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/data/refmac_news.html I hope it helps. regards Garib On 6 May 2008, at 16:39, Debasish Chattopadhyay wrote:

[ccp4bb] Refmac

2008-05-06 Thread Debasish Chattopadhyay
How to keep a ligand fixed during refinement using refmac? Debasish

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac Error

2008-05-05 Thread Roger Rowlett
Kianoush wrote: Dear All, I occasionally get the following error after running refmac: #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 Error from script /home/local/LINUX/ccp4-6.0.2/ccp4i/scripts/refmac5.script: error writing "stdout": I/O error The above error is from the last lines of the log file. It seem

[ccp4bb] Refmac Error

2008-05-05 Thread Kianoush
Dear All, I occasionally get the following error after running refmac: #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 Error from script /home/local/LINUX/ccp4-6.0.2/ccp4i/scripts/refmac5.script: error writing "stdout": I/O error The above error is from the last lines of the log file. It seems that refinement

[ccp4bb] refmac, tlsanl vs TLS, B and anisou

2008-03-31 Thread R.P. Joosten
We do have to mess with the PDB format every time something new is invented. Usually it's just REMARK 3 that has to be changed, but you always need to put some kind of remark in the header that you used a certain type of refinement. When different types of anisotropic refinement are combined (sa

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac,tlsanl vs TLS, B and anisou

2008-03-31 Thread Kevin Cowtan
I agree with Paul and George that it is vital that PDB files from TLS refinement contain ANISOUs which reflect the results of that refinement, and would like to reinforce Paul's point below. There are many possible parameter-frugal approximations to full ADP-refinement: TLS is just one of them

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac,tlsanl vs TLS, B and anisou

2008-03-30 Thread Kevin P Madauss
My experience is the same as Frank's. As I compete a structure for which I am using TLS restraints, I often refine in both phenix and refmac and sometimes go back and forth. I am confused as to why refmac keeps the ANSIOU cards and doesn't keep its output consistent. It would be nice if the

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac,tlsanl vs TLS, B and anisou

2008-03-29 Thread Paul Adams
Some comments: - We (the PHENIX developers) are working with the PDB to come up with a more streamlined deposition of TLS information for PHENIX. There are some other issues that need to be resolved first that have slowed this down a little. - I am in agreement with George (not unusual

[ccp4bb] refmac,tlsanl vs TLS, B and anisou

2008-03-29 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi, here's what triggered my earlier rant: I took a pdb from phenix.refine back into refmac, with same TLS definitions, but leaving the ANISOU cards in (accident). I ran this through TLSANL, asking for total B. Refmac has left the ANISOU cards, but all zero except the first element. ATOM B

[ccp4bb] Refmac and mixed DNA base pairs

2008-02-29 Thread Gabriel Birrane
Hi All, I'm refining a structure of a protein DMA complex at 1.8A resolution. The spacegroup is P21 and the DNA is pseudopalindromic. It looks like I have electron density for mixed base pairs outside the palindromic region, but Refmac5 complains when I try to model it. ERROR: in chain E res

[ccp4bb] REFMAC 5.4.0034

2008-01-08 Thread Mark A Saper
I keep finding that the Refmac version from 5.4.0034 is more "stable" at least with full anisotropic refinement at 1.35 Å resolution. The R- factor stays relatively similar and there is a slow decrease of R- free with R-work. It doesn't jump around compared with an identical refinement in cu

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Murshudov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 19:19 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK On 2 Jan 2008, at 17:15, Ethan Merritt wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008 06:40, Mark A Saper wrote: Well, I gue

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-03 Thread Garib Murshudov
my disks all contain the correct value. Ethan Just curious. Regards, Boaz - Original Message - From: Garib Murshudov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 19:19 Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034 To:

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-03 Thread Ethan Merritt
--- Original Message - > From: Garib Murshudov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, January 2, 2008 19:19 > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034 > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > > > On 2 Jan 2008, at 17:15, Ethan Merritt wrote: >

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-02 Thread Garib Murshudov
On 2 Jan 2008, at 17:15, Ethan Merritt wrote: On Tuesday 01 January 2008 06:40, Mark A Saper wrote: Well, I guess one shouldn't change versions of refmac in the middle of a structure refinement. What are the major differences between . 0034 and .0066 ? I noted that form factors for the Se at

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-02 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Tuesday 01 January 2008 06:40, Mark A Saper wrote: > > Well, I guess one shouldn't change versions of refmac in the middle > of a structure refinement. What are the major differences between . > 0034 and .0066 ? I noted that form factors for the Se atom have > changed dramatically even t

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-01 Thread Garib Murshudov
Hi I usually add extra keywords in the "developers option" section of the interface. I hope we will soon change the interface ti suite current and the next version of the program. If unobserved reflections are present in the mtz file with missing reflection flag then for map coefficients

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-01 Thread Mark A Saper
Garib, Many thanks for pointing out the differences. A couple of more questions: 1. Could you tell me how 5.4.0033 by default handled the free and missing reflections in map calculation. Also, is the ccp4i interface suitable for the latest version of refmac --- I add the extra keywords

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2008-01-01 Thread Mark A Saper
Thanks for those pointing out my cut and paste error. Below are the correct numbers. The first term of the formfactor is almost twice as high compared to the other version. I suspect it is because the newer version is using the wavelength in the calculation, and the old version didn't.

[ccp4bb] Refmac 5.4.0066 versus Refmac 5.4.0034

2007-12-31 Thread Mark A Saper
Hi, Well, I guess one shouldn't change versions of refmac in the middle of a structure refinement. What are the major differences between . 0034 and .0066 ? I noted that form factors for the Se atom have changed dramatically even though I'm using the same " anom formfactor SE -8.13 5.05

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac: BREFinement MIXED

2007-12-24 Thread Garib Murshudov
Hi Mark I used to do followings: Run 0 cycle of refmac with aniso refinement and then take aniso cards for atoms I want to refine aniso and put in the relevant position of the original pdb file. After that I would do mixed refinement. I should warn that I have not tested this option for a

[ccp4bb] Refmac: BREFinement MIXED

2007-12-24 Thread Mark A Saper
Hi all, I hope everyone is having a nice holiday break. I want to refine the B's anisotropically of only the selenium atoms. Does BREF MIXED option work in REFMAC? Do I need to pre-calculate the ANISOU parameters or can I just enter a blank ANISOU card? Thanks, Mark __

[ccp4bb] Refmac extra restraint

2007-12-07 Thread Kristof Van Hecke
Dear all, I'm wondering what's the best way to add an extra (tighter) distance restraint on the linkage between the P-atom of a guanidine (Gd)-residue and the O3'-atom of a thymidine (Td)-residue in an oligonucleotide structure, with use of the program Refmac_5.2.0019 (ccp4-6.0.2)...? And i

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac B ARRAY FOR HESSIAN TABULATION

2007-11-19 Thread Garib Murshudov
There is nothing to worry about this message. I just means that some of your B values may be too large. It does not affect refinement as far as I remember. Garib On 19 Nov 2007, at 21:13, mark Mayer wrote: Hello, I'm running a TLS refinement with Refmac and keep getting the following outp

[ccp4bb] Refmac B ARRAY FOR HESSIAN TABULATION

2007-11-19 Thread mark Mayer
Hello, I'm running a TLS refinement with Refmac and keep getting the following output in my logfile. B ARRAY FOR HESSIAN TABULATION TOO BIG VALUE RESET TO MAXIMUM On the next round of refinment e.g below everything seems normal, but each cycle end with this warning. Can I (should I) set the

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and planar amide restraint

2007-10-11 Thread Eckhard Hofmann
Dear Jason, you will have to include the planarity either by introducing torsion restraints for the specified bonds, or by using the plane definition. Pls. be aware that in the current refmac versions the plane definitions will be used with a fixed sigma, i.e. the value of the dictionary is not

[ccp4bb] Refmac and planar amide restraint

2007-10-11 Thread Jason Greenwald
Dear all, How does one tell Refmac that the bond between two non-amino-acid monomers should be planar (in the case that this bond is an amide)? My ligand has amino-acid and non-animo-acid constituents that are connected via amides. I have made library definitions for all of the non-standard

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac and ramachandran troubles

2007-09-24 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You havent got an incorrect CISPEP definition lurking in the PDB file have you - COOT does NOT correct these so if you rebuild something which has been previously flagges as CISPEP ( and that can happen if a very ugly omega angle falls to 89.999 ) then it stays that way in the PDB output from C

[ccp4bb] refmac and ramachandran troubles

2007-09-22 Thread Jan Abendroth
Hi all, along the lines of a recent discussion: At the final stages of the refinement of a structure which a whole bunch of ncs (2x4chains) at 2.2A resolution in P1, I run into the following very annoying and persistent problem. The Ramachandran plot shows a whole bunch of ugly outliers. While some

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC and Hetroatoms

2007-09-19 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You need the atom name CA and CL moved one space to the left relative to C O N etc.. And correct the atom type in cols 76?? from C to CL and CA ( again moved one space to left) Eleanor Vineet Gaur wrote: Hi all i am having Ca2+ and Cl- as hetroatoms in my protein structure. while doing refin

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC and Hetroatoms

2007-09-18 Thread Manish C Pathak
Dear Vineet, It seems, in your input PDB file the atom level for CA and CL in the last column is C. It should be CA & CL respectively. The atom name in the input file and Dictionary doesn't match. all the best Manish Vineet Gaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all i am having Ca2+ and Cl

[ccp4bb] REFMAC and Hetroatoms

2007-09-18 Thread Vineet Gaur
Hi all i am having Ca2+ and Cl- as hetroatoms in my protein structure. while doing refinement with REFMAC i m getting following warnings: I am reading library. Please wait. mon_lib.cif WARNING : residue: CA994 chain:XX different element name: file:"C "

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds

2007-09-13 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Hi - A quick note - We (with Chris Ulens) have seen recently in one case that in a case MATRIX AUTO would give 'excessive' RMSD, close to 0.030. Checking the cell based on the projection of RMSDs to the cell axes, a utility kindly provided by WHATCHECK, it was suggested that the cell migh

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds

2007-09-12 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Just to add to the outliers in Refmac - careful when some of your atoms have zero occupancy. The bond restraints are not applied any more to these atoms (my feeling) and CERTAINLY are NOT CHECKED FOR OUTLIERS by Refmac at the end of the refinement. Jan Dohnalek Eleanor Dodson wrote: No comme

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds

2007-09-12 Thread Eleanor Dodson
No comment on the Auto debate, but the RMSD of bonds is a crude measure unless you check the outliers.. You can make REFMAC list these - I think it should do so by default actually.. Bad metal distances for instance can distort the number enormously. Eleanor Mark Mayer wrote: Hello all, I b

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds

2007-09-11 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
t; Stockholm, Sweden > ___ > > - Original Message - > From: Mark Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:08 pm > Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds > To: CCP4BB@JISC

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds

2007-09-11 Thread Lari Lehtio
mistry & Biophysics Dept. Karolinska Institute Stockholm, Sweden ___ - Original Message - From: Mark Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:08 pm Subject: [ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable'

[ccp4bb] refmac auto matrix weight - 'reasonable' rmsds

2007-09-11 Thread Mark Mayer
Hello all, I believer the suggested matrix weight for running refmac is 'auto'. I'm at the end of refinment for a data set that I've cut at 1.59 A, so maps are pretty. Here's the logfile with auto weighting ... NOTE bond rmsds !!! REMARK 3 R VALUE(WORKING SET) : .15481

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem in running arp/warp

2007-08-10 Thread Tommi Kajander
Quoting Anastassis Perrakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Aug 9, 2007, at 15:02, Tommi Kajander wrote: > > > so, a) WHAT IS GAMMA?? > > gamma is possibly the letter of the greek alphabet that has had most > abuse from scientists. thats what i thought... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_%28di

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem in running arp/warp

2007-08-09 Thread Roberto Steiner
Dear Tommi, a) WHAT IS GAMMA?? Gamma is a factor used in the Refmac minimization procedure. In most cases Refmac achieves convergence with gamma = 0.0. In case the program fails to reach convergence with gamma = 0.0, gamma is increased stepwise. This generally facilitates convergence. Regards,

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac problem in running arp/warp

2007-08-09 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
On Aug 9, 2007, at 15:02, Tommi Kajander wrote: so, a) WHAT IS GAMMA?? gamma is possibly the letter of the greek alphabet that has had most abuse from scientists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_%28disambiguation%29 seriously now, I have seen that as well, but never increasing to such

[ccp4bb] refmac problem in running arp/warp

2007-08-09 Thread Tommi Kajander
dear all (well experts i suppose), can someone explain what this means (REFMAC): Resolution limits= 19.944 2.600 Number of used reflections = 12652 Percentage observed = 100. Percentage of free reflections = . Overall

[ccp4bb] refmac and maps in ccp4i

2007-06-17 Thread Matthew Wilce
Dear CCP4ers, I have just installed the latest CCP4/CCP4i (6.0.2/1.4.4.2) under OSX 10.4.9. When I run refmac using the gui even though I have not checked the box "generate weighted difference maps..." the programs tries to create the maps. Is there an easy way to prevent this. Since I am using

[ccp4bb] REFMAC converts alpha-L-fucose into beta-L-fucose

2007-06-13 Thread verdino
Dear CCP4bb thanks so much for the helpful information regarding carbohydrate refinement. Kim's recommendation (see below) for the validation server worked really well and helped me to finally figure out what is going on. Seems as if REFMAC5 (part of ccp4-6.0.2 version) is not handling alpha-L-fuc

Re: [ccp4bb] REFMAC restraints for carbohydrates

2007-06-13 Thread Kim Henrick
you can use http://www.glycosciences.de/modeling/sweet2/doc/index.php to get a pdb file of your sugar and after fitting in density and refinement use http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/glycosciences.de/tools/pdbcare/ to check the stereochemistry this should identify if there is a refmac di

[ccp4bb] REFMAC restraints for carbohydrates

2007-06-12 Thread verdino
Dear all, I am trying to refine N-linked carbohydrates with REFMAC5 (CCP4 version 6.0.2) - however - it seems as if I am unable to get the stereochemistry right (when I tried to deposit the structure to PDB - they complaied about it). My protein comes from D. melanogaster and I can see density for

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions

2007-06-06 Thread Garib Murshudov
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions Residue name of iodine should IOD. Otherwsie there is a clash of names with some other residue names (ionisine) Garib On 6 Jun 2007, at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I am

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions

2007-06-06 Thread Judith Murray-Rust
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions > > Residue name of iodine should IOD. Otherwsie there is a clash > of names with some other residue names (ionisine) > > Garib > > On 6 Jun 2007, at 16:56, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions

2007-06-06 Thread Garib Murshudov
Residue name of iodine should IOD. Otherwsie there is a clash of names with some other residue names (ionisine) Garib On 6 Jun 2007, at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, I am having trouble with refmac dictionaries when refining a structure that contains an iodine ion. the PDB

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions

2007-06-06 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Two things I think 1) I is a metal so you need to move the atom name 1 space to the left - more like this: ATOM 2838 O HOH W 102 6.018 39.720 31.127 1.00 21.43 O ATOM 2839 I I B 1 19.956 22.770 18.597 1.00 30.00 I And the monomer library cal

[ccp4bb] refmac fails on iodine ions

2007-06-06 Thread alexander . pautsch
> Dear All, > > I am having trouble with refmac dictionaries when refining a > structure that contains an iodine ion. > the PDB entry should be correct and according to the convention > (water added for comparison): > - > ATOM 2838 O HOH W 102 6.018 39

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac crashes when ncs restraints are applied

2007-05-31 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I certainly have used NCS restraints with ccp4-6.0.2 That doesnt help much though does it! Eleanor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:57:03 +0100 From: Stephen Brian Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: refmac crashes when ncs restraints are applied Message

[ccp4bb] refmac crashes when ncs restraints are applied

2007-05-31 Thread bmbsbc
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:57:03 +0100 From: Stephen Brian Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: refmac crashes when ncs restraints are applied Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear CCP4 users, I am running refmac 5.2.0019 in ccp4 6.0

[ccp4bb] refmac crashes when ncs restraints applied

2007-05-31 Thread bmbsbc
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:38:42 +0100 From: Stephen Brian Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: refmac crashes when ncs restraints applied Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear CCP4 users, I am running refmac 5.2.0019 in ccp4 6.0.2 on a

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac runs, but no output files

2007-05-23 Thread Ronan Keegan
Hi Jhon, It might not be the source of the problem, but this error can occur if you have closed the terminal window from where you started ccp4i while still running ccp4i. i.e. if you back-grounded ccp4i when you started it. Jobs such as Refmac invoke a "Movefile" command which sometimes writ

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac runs, but no output files

2007-05-22 Thread William Scott
It's guessing time, but it looks like you don't have write permission to the directory in which ccp4i/refmac is trying to direct the output file (or maybe the directory no longer exists, etc). Jhon Thomas wrote: > Hi all > I am using CCP4i, and running refmac for the > refinement

[ccp4bb] refmac runs, but no output files

2007-05-22 Thread Jhon Thomas
Hi all I am using CCP4i, and running refmac for the refinement of the my data. I have ran this many times earlier successfully. Now as i run the refamc5 , it runs successfully and complete the job,but not writing any output file. At the end of the logfile, i get a sat

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors

2007-05-10 Thread Roger Rowlett
CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kolstoe S.E. Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:09 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors Thanks very much for the replies, and especially for the link t

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors)

2007-05-10 Thread Nave, C (Colin)
Hoedemaeker Sent: 10 May 2007 10:21 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors) Hi Simon, Well, X-ray crystallography nowadays often, but certainly not always, amounts to running a set of programs with default settings with a few mouse clicks in t

[ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors)

2007-05-10 Thread Flip Hoedemaeker
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors Thanks very much for the replies, and especially for the link to the previous thread on this topic (Eva). Just a comment about the ccp4i GUI in general - pretty much all the students in my department are slowly becoming dependant

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