Re: 3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread alexmcwhirter
On 2016-05-11 17:59, geneb wrote: Cool. I'm not fond of SketchUp anyhow. I'm switchin'. If you've ever used qcad, I'm wondering what you or others might know/think of it. That one works on my Unix boxes, that's why I ask. It's been flirting with me every since I've seen it appearing in

Re: 3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread Mike Barnes
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > Has anyone used a 3D printer to make a case for their old machine ? I've > started drafting an SGI Indy "skin" in Sketch, but it's just a box right > now, nothing cool. Not an actual old machine, but I did a mini-blinkenlights replica of an

Re: PDP-8/A 128K memory - M8417 or M8418?

2016-05-11 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Jack Rubin wrote: > I've been looking for a 128K MOS memory board for my PDP-8/A for a while...an > M8418. > > None of my literature has the M8418 p/n but most of it may be too old... I found one reference... in: PDP8A_Schems_Apr81.pdf page

Re: PDP-8/A 128K memory - M8417 or M8418?

2016-05-11 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Jack Rubin wrote: > I've been looking for a 128K MOS memory board for my PDP-8/A for a while. I > finally got one, but it turned out to be an M8418. Huh... I'm not sure I've seen that version. > The docs I've seen (bitsavers EK-MS8CD-TM-001,

PDP-8/A 128K memory - M8417 or M8418?

2016-05-11 Thread Jack Rubin
I've been looking for a 128K MOS memory board for my PDP-8/A for a while. I finally got one, but it turned out to be an M8418. The docs I've seen (bitsavers EK-MS8CD-TM-001, 1980 + printsets) talk about an M8417 with 4k DRAM chips (MS8-C) and an M8417 with 16k DRAM chips (MS8-D), but

Tape reader

2016-05-11 Thread jwsmobile
Does anyone here know how to order this device? It seems to still possibly be offered, but I am not sure how to order it. I'm not sure if the person is on the list, if so you can reply off list. Looked for faq or shopping or buy pointer, didn't find one. thanks JIm

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Dave Wade > Cards are > M7264 11/03 processor with 4-Kword MOS RAM > M7940 > M9400ye DLV11 Serial Line Unit (system cosole) REV11-E (240-ohm terminators for Q18) QBUS termination is a complex subject; when you have multiple backplane sections, connected by cables,

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-05-11 Thread Mouse
>> Compiled Lisp, even on generic hardware, is fast. [...] > But List still sequential processing as far as I can see? How do you > speed that up? Just as sequential as C or PL/I or whatever else. As for speeding it up? As a compiler geek I'm strictly a dilettante, so I don't really know, but

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-05-11 Thread ben
On 5/11/2016 5:54 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2016-05-11 7:43 PM, Liam Proven wrote: ... If we'd had 4 decades of effort aimed at fast Lisp Machines, I think we'd have them. Compiled Lisp, even on generic hardware, is fast. Fast enough, in fact, that it obviated Symbolics. (More in Richard P.

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-05-11 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-05-11 7:43 PM, Liam Proven wrote: ... If we'd had 4 decades of effort aimed at fast Lisp Machines, I think we'd have them. Compiled Lisp, even on generic hardware, is fast. Fast enough, in fact, that it obviated Symbolics. (More in Richard P. Gabriel's history of Lucid.) See also:

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-05-11 Thread Liam Proven
This has been waiting for a reply for too long... On 4 May 2016 at 20:59, Sean Conner wrote: > It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated: >> On 29 April 2016 at 21:06, Sean Conner wrote: >> > It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once

Re: 3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread geneb
On Wed, 11 May 2016, alexmcwhir...@triadic.us wrote: On 2016-05-11 17:59, geneb wrote: Cool. I'm not fond of SketchUp anyhow. I'm switchin'. If you've ever used qcad, I'm wondering what you or others might know/think of it. That one works on my Unix boxes, that's why I ask. It's been flirting

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 12/05/16 00:05, Adrian Graham wrote: My memory's getting skewed with age, clearly. I can remember RKG's (Royal Kingdom of Geordies) finest 2 engineers upgrading the 8350s to 8550s and the passage of time has me convinced it was 'only' a backplane swap. I was purely a code monkey back then.

Interact Model One Software

2016-05-11 Thread Brad H
Hi guys, I scored a cheap Interact Model One (original with chiclet keys). It's an interesting piece - much larger than photos suggest. It appears to be somewhat functional (comes up to the press L to load tape screen), however I lack any tapes to load with it. I've not found any archives

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Adrian Graham
On 11/05/2016 23:08, "Ethan Dicks" wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Adrian Graham > wrote: >>> Some others had a PRO as their console. Don't remember which models >>> specifically. >> The 8{3|5}50s our biggest customer used had

Re: Bags for RK05 disk cartridges

2016-05-11 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Jack Rubin wrote: > Ideally, I'd like to find Ziploc-style poly bags like the DEC originals > with the warning about dirt on the heads (the famous hair/head picture). I'm guessing with all the DEC gurus on the list you'll find what you are after. However, I can tell you

Re: Bags for RK05 disk cartridges

2016-05-11 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
I have a bunch of the originals (with packs in them) but they are showing their age (seams splitting). I’ll have to look at the U-Line bag to see how that works. TTFN - Guy > On May 11, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Jack Rubin wrote: > > Now that I've cleaned a stack of RK05 DECpacks, I

Bags for RK05 disk cartridges

2016-05-11 Thread Jack Rubin
Now that I've cleaned a stack of RK05 DECpacks, I want to keep them clean. Ideally, I'd like to find Ziploc-style poly bags like the DEC originals with the warning about dirt on the heads (the famous hair/head picture). I haven't been able to find a match for the original (roughly 16.5"

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: >> Some others had a PRO as their console. Don't remember which models >> specifically. > The 8{3|5}50s our biggest customer used had Pro380 VAX CONSOLES Not the 82xx/83xx, but the larger 85xx, 87xx and 88xx...

Re: 3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread geneb
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2016, geneb wrote: Do NOT use SketchUp to create parts for 3D printing. You'll end up with an STL that's all screwed up. Ah, okay, thanks for this tip. NP. If you're going to the Bay Area Maker Faire, stop by the SeeMeCNC booth and

Re: 3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 11 May 2016, geneb wrote: > Do NOT use SketchUp to create parts for 3D printing. You'll end up with > an STL that's all screwed up. Ah, okay, thanks for this tip. > A good, free tool for this kind of thing would be DesignSpark > Mechanical. It has a workflow similar to SketchUp.

RE: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread James Attfield
> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:05:52 -0400 > From: Corey Cohen > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80? > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I think the title

Replacement for a Corcom F2987A EMI Filter

2016-05-11 Thread Jarratt RMA
I have two failed Corcom filters in two DEC Rainbows. I see some spares available in the US, but shipping to the UK is likely to be prohibitive and I would like if possible to find a modern equivalent. It is this one: http://meci.com/corcom-12-20129-01-emi-line-filter-model-f2987a.html. I am told

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Adrian Graham
On 11/05/2016 20:45, "Paul Koning" wrote: > >> On May 11, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> >>> From: Dave Wade >> >>> I have recently a PDP-11 which apparently came from a VAX console. >> >> If that's really where it came from, it's

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Adrian Graham wrote: > On 11/05/2016 20:45, "Paul Koning" wrote: > > > > >> On May 11, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Noel Chiappa > wrote: > >> > >>> From: Dave Wade > >> > >>> I have recently

Re: 3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread geneb
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: Has anyone used a 3D printer to make a case for their old machine ? I've started drafting an SGI Indy "skin" in Sketch, but it's just a box right now, nothing cool. I've noticed and been somewhat inspired by these: Do NOT use SketchUp to create parts

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Jarratt RMA
> > On 11 May 2016 at 21:53 Dave Wade wrote: > > > I thought I had attached a pic of the card layouts, I assume these are > deleted... Here is a link... Sorry it's long. > > > >

3D Printing cases and SGI "skins"

2016-05-11 Thread Swift Griggs
Has anyone used a 3D printer to make a case for their old machine ? I've started drafting an SGI Indy "skin" in Sketch, but it's just a box right now, nothing cool. I've noticed and been somewhat inspired by these: I think this one is very clever. The guy used 3D printed parts just to sort of

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Wade
I thought I had attached a pic of the card layouts, I assume these are deleted... Here is a link... Sorry it's long. https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=277A0739F125010E!88626=!AEjo1kJ4FKG5jZk=3=photo%2cJPG Cards are M7264, M7940,M9400ye M8044ee,m7946 M8192,empty. Also have loose grant

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-05-11 Thread dwight
Also watch out for rubber bands. Before turning to hard crunchy stuff that yo can brush off, they go through a gooey stage that can dry up and stick layers together. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of jwsmobile

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 05/11/2016 11:29 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2016, Corey Cohen wrote: >> I think the title explains it all. Looking for a C compiler I >> can run on my Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 > > For casually playing with the language, rather than serious > projects, consider BDS C, by Leor Zolman.

Re: PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 11, 2016, at 3:30 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Dave Wade > >> I have recently a PDP-11 which apparently came from a VAX console. > > If that's really where it came from, it's a QBUS 11/03. (And IIRC only the > 780 had a PDP-11 console, although I'm not

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Wednesday (05/11/2016 at 07:05AM -0400), Corey Cohen wrote: > I think the title explains it all. Looking for a C compiler I can run on my > Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 There was also Walt Bilofsky's C/80 from Software Toolworks. This was popular on CP/M and HDOS on the Heath H8 and H89 systems.

PDP-11

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Wade
Folks, I have recently a PDP-11 which apparently came from a VAX console. It looks to me like there are two CPU's in there, a console card, RX02 Controller, Memory and Bus Terminator. I have done lots of searching and there doesn't seem to be a simple list of what can run on it, assuming I can

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-05-11 Thread jwsmobile
On 4/7/2016 1:07 PM, jwsmobile wrote: A friend has a large set of paper tape which seems to be from a DG User group (not sure about that, but label on box sort of implies that). Thanks to Erik Baigar, I have gotten his paper tape reader and have made one pass on reading the tapes. The

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Corey Cohen wrote: I think the title explains it all. Looking for a C compiler I can run on my Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 For casually playing with the language, rather than serious projects, consider BDS C, by Leor Zolman. Source code is available.

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 11:57 AM 5/11/2016, Sean Caron wrote: >Mix C! Now that brings back memories! First C compiler I had access to as a >kid ... It was the first C compiler that I had access to, but I was no kid - I had taken my first college programming course about 25 years earlier. To be fair, until I got

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Sean Caron
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Jacob Ritorto wrote: I think I still have the Mix C floppies kicking around somewhere. I remember that they were in a format manipulable by the Commodore 1571 floppy drive, operating in some compatibility mode. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Dale H. Cook

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread emu
Zitat von Corey Cohen : I think the title explains it all. Looking for a C compiler I can run on my Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 http://www.z80.eu/c-compiler.html hope it helps

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Geoff Oltmans
Seems like there was an Aztec C compiler. Sent from my iPhone > On May 11, 2016, at 6:05 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: > > I think the title explains it all. Looking for a C compiler I can run on my > Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 > > Thanks, > Corey > > corey cohen > uǝɥoɔ

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Jacob Ritorto
I think I still have the Mix C floppies kicking around somewhere. I remember that they were in a format manipulable by the Commodore 1571 floppy drive, operating in some compatibility mode. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > At 07:05 AM 5/11/2016, Corey

Re: Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:05 AM 5/11/2016, Corey Cohen wrote: >Looking for a C compiler I can run on my Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 I used to run Mix C under CP/M 2.2 on my Kaypros. Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640

Manual for Remex RRJ8000 serial paper tape reader circa 1979?

2016-05-11 Thread Nigel Williams
If anyone knows the dip switch settings, I'd be grateful to learn them please or even better a manual. It doesn't match any of the units currently on bitsavers. Compared to the more common Remex units this one is quite compact. I tried some test tapes and it produces a regular pattern differing

Is there a C compiler for CP/M-80?

2016-05-11 Thread Corey Cohen
I think the title explains it all. Looking for a C compiler I can run on my Sol-20 with CP/M 1.4 Thanks, Corey corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ

RE: VT101 screen adjustment

2016-05-11 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 10 May 2016, tony duell wrote: Yes indeed. Fortunately this one wielded under my trimmer and all is properly aligned now. All I need to do now is troubleshoot the keyboard circuit which I hope is the same as the VT102... In general it is a bad idea to cure faults by adjustments. Unless

Re: Non-DEC keyboard lookalikes (was: VT1xx stuff)

2016-05-11 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 08:48:57PM +0100, Adrian Graham wrote: > Since I now have a couple of these and google is coming up blank-ish has > anyone come across a VT keyboard, possibly from a Plessey PT100 style > terminal, that is 99% VT100 in shape, colour and key layout? Even the 6mm > jack plug

Anyone Have a Working AlphaStation 200 to Run Some Tests For Me?

2016-05-11 Thread Rob Jarratt
I can’t remember if I already asked, but I need to find a working example and ask it’s owner to run some tests on it for me to help me diagnose a fault on mine. Ideally the machine would be running VMS. Thanks Rob Sent from my Windows 10 phone