The 208-xx disks all seem to be 48tpi (208-40, 208-41, 208-10
(single-sided)
They all do seem to include an index burst.
Just a guess, mind you.
--Chuck
Hi there,
Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Dysan 208-21 alignment disk, or
know what drive it's intended to be used with?
I've got the information sheet which comes with the disk, but it doesn't
identify the tracks-per-inch or track count.
It's a 5.25in double-sided disk; the info
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
> I naively assume that since Decnet is a mature product supporting it
> just means testing it with new versions of Linux so not too much work is
> needed.
Someone has to do that, it doesn't happen automagically. And if not for:
> It has been
It just sounds to me like the implementation should move to userspace. Why does
it need to be in the kernel?
-- Chris
It might not be worth it to redhat.
I wonder how many govt entities are still using DEC machines and can’t replace
them easily.
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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 13:47, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 8/2/22 2:37 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>> I naively assume that since
> Grant Taylor wrote:
>Isn't Tru64 a DEC product?
I did say, "Excepting the Un*x derivatives"...
>Would you stop using DECnet b/c it was removed from the kernel?
Well, I wouldn't be able to upgrade that machine anymore. That wouldn’t be
the end of the world, but eventually one of two
On 8/2/22 2:37 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
I naively assume that since Decnet is a mature product supporting
it just means testing it with new versions of Linux so not too
much work is needed. If a linux distro keeps it it adds value to
that distro.
Fair enough.
I think the problem is
I naively assume that since Decnet is a mature product supporting it just means
testing it with new versions of Linux so not too much work is needed. If a
linux distro keeps it it adds value to that distro. So, in the future, Redhat,
for example, might be the only distro left supporting it so
On 8/2/22 1:56 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
Does dropping Decnet mean the the commercial versions like Redhat
and any others that you pay support for will also lose Decnet?
I imagine that even commercially supported distributions will eventually
loose DECnet support. -- I don't see how
On 8/2/22 1:56 PM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote:
AFAIK, VMS was the only DEC operating system (well, excepting the
Un*x derivatives) that supported TCP/IP. There were several third
party TCP/IP implementations for VMS (e.g. Wollongong, CMU, Process
Software, ...) and eventually DEC came
On 8/2/22 14:42, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
On 8/2/22 11:52 AM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote:
Umm... The problem is that there are a lot more DECnet systems than just VMS.
Please elaborate.
I naively assumed that
On 8/2/22 14:38, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 8/2/22 11:52 AM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote:
Umm... The problem is that there are a lot more DECnet systems than
just VMS.
Please elaborate.
I naively assumed that anything that was running DECnet was doing so to
be able to
Does dropping Decnet mean the the commercial versions like Redhat and any
others that you pay support for will also lose Decnet?
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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 12:12, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 8/2/22 12:42 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> I think the context was
>Grant Taylor
>Okay. I hadn't considered other DEC OSs that don't support TCP/IP.
AFAIK, VMS was the only DEC operating system (well, excepting the Un*x
derivatives) that supported TCP/IP. There were several third party TCP/IP
implementations for VMS (e.g. Wollongong, CMU, Process
I watched it... thanks for link! Ed#
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On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 11:36 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote: On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, Ali via cctalk wrote:
> Hello All,
> Since the new hosting has taken over I am having a ton of issues posting to
> the list.
On 8/2/22 12:42 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
I think the context was TCP as an alternative transport, given the
fading DECnet support in Linux. And yes, that's an option for Unix
and VMS, but not for a number of other DEC operating systems that
have no TCP option.
Okay. I hadn't
> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 8/2/22 11:52 AM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote:
>> Umm... The problem is that there are a lot more DECnet systems than just
>> VMS.
>
> Please elaborate.
>
> I naively assumed that anything that was running DECnet
On 8/2/22 11:52 AM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk wrote:
Umm... The problem is that there are a lot more DECnet systems than
just VMS.
Please elaborate.
I naively assumed that anything that was running DECnet was doing so to
be able to communicate with a DEC system / OS.
It sounds like you
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022, Ali via cctalk wrote:
Hello All,
Since the new hosting has taken over I am having a ton of issues posting to
the list. Anyone else experiencing legit posts being blocked as spam?
I generally have no problems at all with the list.
BUT, yesterday, when I posted about
I have had to switch from gmail to outlook. Gmail won't send because its on the
SORBS list
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: Ali via cctalk
> Sent: 02 August 2022 18:40
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> Cc: Ali
> Subject: [cctalk] Posts Blocked
>
> Hello All,
>
> Since the new hosting has
> Bill Degnan wrote:
>Multinet
Are you suggesting running Multinet on VMS so it can talk to the TCP world?
Umm... The problem is that there are a lot more DECnet systems than just VMS.
Bob
Hello All,
Since the new hosting has taken over I am having a ton of issues posting to
the list. Anyone else experiencing legit posts being blocked as spam?
-Ali
Multinet
On Tue, Aug 2, 2022, 6:46 AM Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-DECnet-2022-Removal
>
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220731190646.97039-1-step...@networkplumber.org/
>
> --
> Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven
> Email:
One method to do what you want would be to do the following:
1. Connect a TTL to RS-232 Converter to the serial port on the Raspberry Pi
https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Compact-RS232-Converter-Female/dp/B00OPTOKI0
2. Enable the serial console on the Raspberry Pi.
Log-in to your Pi using the
> -Original Message-
> From: Ali via cctalk
> Sent: 31 July 2022 06:51
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
> Cc: Ali
> Subject: [cctalk] Re: Connecting a physical terminal via LAN to Serial Port
>
> > I feel like a Raspberry Pi or similar would fit the bill for
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-DECnet-2022-Removal
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220731190646.97039-1-step...@networkplumber.org/
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