But which of those constitutes guessing? The computer would likely have beaten
me to the answer by at least a second :). It's easy enough to look up, for a
computer that is. But in that instance a computer wouldn't need to guess. And
for me, there were no multiple choices. It was hardly an
How well does it do on something "simple", and less esoteric, such as
translating FORTRAN to BASIC?
On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
How about FORTRAN to RPG?
Certainly more of a challenge!
But, a good way to quanitfy how far along they are getting on it.
The range of code
How's about just convwrting IV to 77?
On Tuesday, January 17, 2023, 01:02:16 AM EST, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 1/16/23 21:45, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> How well does it do on something "simple", and less esoteric, such as
> translating FORTRAN to BASIC?
How about FORTRAN
On 1/16/23 21:54, Chris via cctalk wrote:
> No one even bothered to try and answer my first question, which wasn't
> actually posed as a question but that's irrelevant!!
>
> Can these things make food guesses. It was a long time ago, 15 - 20 years, I
> was watching Jeopardy and within a
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, Chris via cctalk wrote:
No one even bothered to try and answer my first question, which wasn't
actually posed as a question but that's irrelevant!!
Can these things make food guesses. It was a long time ago, 15 - 20
years, I was watching Jeopardy and within a relatively
On 1/16/23 21:45, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> How well does it do on something "simple", and less esoteric, such as
> translating FORTRAN to BASIC?
How about FORTRAN to RPG?
--Chuck
No one even bothered to try and answer my first question, which wasn't
actually posed as a question but that's irrelevant!!
Can these things make food guesses. It was a long time ago, 15 - 20 years, I
was watching Jeopardy and within a relatively short span of time, days or weeks
apart, I
On 1/16/23 19:42, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
It didn't fall for your trick question.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
In fact, feed it the object code for a reasonably compatible
architecture and ask it to perform translation to another architecture's
object code.
The only answer that anyone can provide is redundancy. Keep 2 or 3 copies of
everything on seperate external drives. Every 3 to 5 years buy new drives and
transfer the data to them. Or just run checkdisk twice a year and wait for 1
drive to start popping errors. Replace it. Wait for other to
On 1/16/23 19:42, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> It didn't fall for your trick question.
>
> Sellam
In fact, feed it the object code for a reasonably compatible
architecture and ask it to perform translation to another architecture's
object code.
Certainly within the range of human
On 1/16/23 19:42, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
>
> It didn't fall for your trick question.
>
> Sellam
Right, but that isn't what I asked. Take a segment of x86 assembly,
sans any comments that performs a simple math problem using no I//O,
such as computing a Fibonacci sequence, storing it in
On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 7:09 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
ChatGPT can translate x86 assembly to 7080 autocoder? That would be
something...
On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
Me: Translate the disassembly of the boot sector code for PC DOS 1.0 into
7080 autocoder.
Not sure about those specifically. I think mdisc claimed 25 or 100 years
but obviously can't prove it and if it's scratched from a holder it would
be the same impact. Personally I always figured each little scratch on
anything larger than a DVD would be a critical amount of data.
This sort of
Me: Translate the disassembly of the boot sector code for PC DOS 1.0 into
7080 autocoder.
ChatGPT: "It is not possible to simply translate the disassembly of the
boot sector code for PC DOS 1.0 into 7080 autocoder as the two are
different assembly languages for different processors. The boot
On 1/16/23 18:46, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Apparently, ChatGPT 3 was trained on a large codebase, and in the reviews
> I've watched, as well as in my own experience, it is amazingly astute at
> generating (usually) working code in just about any language you can think
> of,
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, Chris via cctalk wrote:
They write songs, create works of art. They can do a lot of stuff. The
question in my mind is can these AI appliances make guesses and are they
any good at it.
Anyway how hard would it be for an AI to rewrite a standard MS-DOS to
suit a particular
It was thus said that the Great Sellam Abraham via cctalk once stated:
> Chris,
>
> Apparently, ChatGPT 3 was trained on a large codebase, and in the reviews
> I've watched, as well as in my own experience, it is amazingly astute at
> generating (usually) working code in just about any language
What about M-DISC DVDs and BluRays? Archival grade, not susceptible
to magnetism or EMP. I think BluRay discs are made of a harder material than
DVDs and don’t scratch as easily.
On Tue, 17 Jan 2023, Chris via cctalk wrote:
Don't know, don't care. If we're being attacked by nuclear bombs of
Chris,
Apparently, ChatGPT 3 was trained on a large codebase, and in the reviews
I've watched, as well as in my own experience, it is amazingly astute at
generating (usually) working code in just about any language you can think
of, including assembly languages of various flavors.
Could it
Don't know, don't care. If we're being attacked by nuclear bombs of any stripe,
I have far more humongous things to worry about then what's on my hard drives.
I suppose if you were wring a book and wanted to back that up to an optical
disk, go for it. On Monday, January 16, 2023,
They write songs, create works of art. They can do a lot of stuff. The question
in my mind is can these AI appliances make guesses and are they any good at it.
Anyway how hard would it be for an AI to rewrite a standard MS-DOS to suit a
particular machine? Have they reached the level of
What about M-DISC DVDs and BluRays? Archival grade, not susceptible to
magnetism or EMP. I think BluRay discs are made of a harder material than DVDs
and don’t scratch as easily.
> On Jan 16, 2023, at 8:11 PM, Chris via cctalk wrote:
>
> Been there. Seen it. It seems paper or tyvek is the
I KNOW WHAT I GOT!
:)
On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 5:40 PM wh.sudbrink--- via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> You're quite right. I'm in Maryland, near Washington, DC. As to prices,
> I'm looking for best offer. Preference to local pick up. Things, like the
> HP-150 docs, may become "free
You're quite right. I'm in Maryland, near Washington, DC. As to prices, I'm
looking for best offer. Preference to local pick up. Things, like the HP-150
docs, may become "free to a good home for shipping". By the way, I don't need
any more emails telling me how valuable the DOS 1.0 is. I get
Been there. Seen it. It seems paper or tyvek is the way to store these things.
But the question is in 2023 why are you still committing data to optical media?
I dumped all my cds and dvds on to magnetic storage years ago. I got burned
waiting as long as I did even.
Some of the old spinning cd
Yup. I've seen the same with many of the CD holders I bought from CompUSA.
Lots of CDs/DVDs we burned and stored were unreadable after a few years
despite never being removed. Some blame is the CD/DVD quality and holes in
the unprotected label but definitely scratches.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 6:50
This is a strange one. I have a bunch of CD sleeves like this, that I used to
use.
https://www.amazon.com/Mediaxpo-Double-sided-Refill-Sleeve-Holder/dp/B002ROAIC2/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2IDUIGLI7EY9I
I’m trying to recover data from a Verbatim DataLifePlus CD, and when I started
looking at it, I
On 1/16/23 12:40, Paul Koning wrote:
> On the CERL PLATO system at U of Illinois, around 1977, we had 20-ish
> 844-21 drives, and maybe a few 844-41 as well. Those were roughly the
> same as the DEC RP04 and RP05 drives, same pack and track count.
> Different sectors, though; 322 12-bit words per
> On Jan 16, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> The 844 drives date from the early 70s. ...
>
> Can't tell you more about the mechanics of the things--I haven't seen
> one of these in many many years. They were the workhorse drive for CDC
> large systems for quite some
> On Jan 16, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 1/16/23 04:14, p.gebhardt--- via cctalk wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> Yesterday, I was wondering, if there are any multiplatter disk pack
>> production tools known to exist?
>> There are disk pack inspection and cleaning
I'm not getting rid of my whole collection or anything, but things are
getting a little tight in terms of physical space and I have stuff that
simply doesn't keep my interest. I'd rather not do ebay so I'll offer them
here first. I will put up pictures if there is interest. None of this is
On 1/16/23 02:14, p.gebhardt--- via cctalk wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Yesterday, I was wondering, if there are any multiplatter disk pack
> production tools known to exist?
> There are disk pack inspection and cleaning tools in the wild (also one on
> eBay for a ridiculously high price) and
On 1/16/23 04:14, p.gebhardt--- via cctalk wrote:
Hello list,
Yesterday, I was wondering, if there are any multiplatter disk pack production
tools known to exist?
There are disk pack inspection and cleaning tools in the wild (also one on eBay
for a ridiculously high price) and occasionally,
On Mon, 16 Jan 2023, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
I bought RK05 packs from Althea (sp?). I know they make diskettes too.
Trying to locate their web site so I must be spelling it wrong :-)
I think you're referring to Athana.
g.
--
Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007
http://www.f15sim.com - The
I bought RK05 packs from Althea (sp?). I know they make diskettes too.
Trying to locate their web site so I must be spelling it wrong :-)
Bill
On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 5:14 AM p.gebhardt--- via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> Yesterday, I was wondering, if there are any
>now. Older drives are close to unobtainium. I never came across a five-platter
>pack for my CDC 854 drive and i have never seen packs for my MMD 844 or my CDC
>BC3xx disk
>drive for 200MB disk packs.
Little correction: It's a CDC 844 Multiple Disk Drive, not a 841.
Greetings,
Pierre
Hello list,
Yesterday, I was wondering, if there are any multiplatter disk pack production
tools known to exist?
There are disk pack inspection and cleaning tools in the wild (also one on eBay
for a ridiculously high price) and occasionally, I also saw unused and
originally packed disk
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