[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-15 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
A brief description of "built-in" FPGA logic analysers seems worthwhile, a valuable if non-trivial option. Most FPGA vendors provide IP to implement in vivo logic analysers organically in the FPGA fabric. Additionally, they provide a GUI to display / capture the data and to interactively confi

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Be careful about throwing stones if you are living in a glass house. On Tue, 14 Mar 2023, 6:49 pm Peter Coghlan via cctalk, < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > There are some nice mixed signal oscilloscopes made by Rigol (Chinese) > at a > > very affordable price. > > > > Until just over a y

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread David Gesswein via cctalk
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 10:32:15AM +0800, Tom Hunter wrote: > There are some nice mixed signal oscilloscopes made by Rigol (Chinese) at a > very affordable price. They have a very deep capture buffer for both analog > and digital signals. The build quality and capabilities of the MSO1104Z I > have

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 3/14/2023 1:00 PM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: On HP: yes, perhaps. I used one of those back at DEC, in the mid 1980s. Nice machine, but my suspicion is that I'd run into the small memory problem again that plagues me with the Philips/Fluke analyzer I use right now. We use several HP

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 14, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk > wrote: > >> On HP: yes, perhaps. I used one of those back at DEC, in the mid 1980s. Nice >> machine, but my suspicion is that I'd run into the small memory problem >> again that plagues me with the Philips/Fluke analyzer I use rig

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> On HP: yes, perhaps. I used one of those back at DEC, in the mid 1980s. Nice > machine, but my suspicion is that I'd run into the small memory problem again > that plagues me with the Philips/Fluke analyzer I use right now. We use several HP analyzers around here, all from the 80s. Even the "s

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
Yes, I've used sigrok and sat on their IRC channel for quite a while. I've used the gpib analyser and extended a DMM driver to cover the hp34401A. The logic analyser client is probably the best application and is comparable with Saleae's own client. The streaming cli clients are also good, but I th

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 14, 2023, at 1:38 AM, Steve Lewis via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Anyway, as an option slightly cheaper than the Saleae, I'm trying the > 32-channel version of the DreamSourceLab U3Pro32. It's not horrible, I've > 24 pins hooked up so far. I debated on if 2x16's would be better. > Am

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Sytse van Slooten via cctalk
I also use the pctestinstruments. One of its strong points is that it plays well with virtualbox - I run it in a W7 guest on my centos desktop. The buffer depth is usually a bit limiting though, and triggering is also somewhat basic. Another option that I haven't seen mentioned: use the built-in

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > There are some nice mixed signal oscilloscopes made by Rigol (Chinese) at a > very affordable price. > Until just over a year ago, buying very afforadable Russian oil and gas also seemed like a great idea with no downsides compared to getting these products elsewhere. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Tue, 14 Mar 2023, Steve Lewis wrote: I'm probing two DB25 connectors on the old IBM 5110 to figure out how to programmatically jiggle some pins and get some serial IO going.I've This is easy since it is an I/O bus. The instructions are GETB, PUTB, STAT and CTRL. In any case the correspo

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Alexander Huemer via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 08:28:35PM -0500, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > On 3/13/2023 8:12 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > Gents, > > > > I've been doing logic debugging (on a fairly primitive software defined > > radio I designed back in 1999) with an old Philips logic analyzer. It's > >

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Paul Some options for consideration, not all meeting your specific requirement https://www.pctestinstruments.com/index.asp 34b wide, sync (200 MS/s) or async (500 MS/s) operation, fights with Win11 - driver upgrade required Had one for ~15 years, now has a few dead channels, merits consideratio

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-13 Thread Steve Lewis via cctalk
I'm probing two DB25 connectors on the old IBM 5110 to figure out how to programmatically jiggle some pins and get some serial IO going.I've been working on writing a terminal emulator in its PALM machine code (now that we have an excellent assembler for it) - I may go lazy and just have it wra

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-13 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
There are some nice mixed signal oscilloscopes made by Rigol (Chinese) at a very affordable price. They have a very deep capture buffer for both analog and digital signals. The build quality and capabilities of the MSO1104Z I have are outstanding. I got all the options included for free as a specia

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-13 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
I completely agree about the Saleae devices. Very good software, nicely made hardware. They're not cheap though, and only go up to 16 channels. You can capture 16 channels with the very cheap Cypress FX2 dev boards (the older Saleae devices were pretty much that). I'd like to find a convenient sol

[cctalk] Re: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-13 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 3/13/2023 8:12 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Gents, I've been doing logic debugging (on a fairly primitive software defined radio I designed back in 1999) with an old Philips logic analyzer. It's not bad, certainly fast enough (I need 100 Msamples/s, it can do twice that) and it's mor