PDP11/84 and PDP-11/94 notes

First ... If the following is already known or incorrect then apologies. In my efforts to get an 11/94 running with UniBus cards the following came to light. 1. You need to start with the fact there are _two_ different types of hybrid Uni/Qbus back planes that can go in a BA box. 2. One

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

On 20/09/2017 17:30, Ulrich Tagge via cctalk wrote: Hi Rod, I have not the chance to go into the basement before Weekend, but have document the installation here: http://www.pdp-11.de/index.php/pdp-11/rt11-5-4g-installation/ My 11/84 have the KDJ11-B (m8190). Vielen Dank am

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

Hi Rod, I have not the chance to go into the basement before Weekend, but have document the installation here: http://www.pdp-11.de/index.php/pdp-11/rt11-5-4g-installation/ My 11/84 have the KDJ11-B (m8190). Many Greetings Ulrich

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

Hi Rod, I missed this in my last reply. You can also verify the Bootstrap code placed in the KDJ11 EEPROM, maybe there is an error in. Many Greetings Ulrich

PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

onsdag 20 september 2017 skrev Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cctalk@classiccmp.org');>>: > > I installed the RX01 Unibus adapter in slot 5 > > Then replaced the slot 5 NPG jumper (RX01 is not DMA) They are underneath >

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

I installed the RX01 Unibus adapter in slot 5 Then replaced the slot 5 NPG  jumper (RX01 is not DMA) They are underneath the motherboard on an 11/94 Next I connected up the RX01 and used original DEC RT-11 v5.4 RX01 distribution disks. Then turned on and tried to boot DX. Same result

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

Hi Rod, I had an similar issue, when trying to boot a RX02 Disk created on my /84 on a /34a. Have bypassed this and have installed a fresh RT11, but had no time to figure out the problem. Would it of interest for you, to get RX02 Images (PDP11GUI) of my RT-11 V5.4 G Distribution Set? With

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

Hi    1.   The complete RX02 with cable and disk (initialized and system copied /boot to it) boots the 11/73 on an RX02 controller so mode is correct.    2.        The 11/94 boot menu allows you to choose DY0 or DY1 and both have been tried after moving the floppy of course.     3

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

Hi Rod, I'm sure you are aware about, ... the /94 have a MDM card/module, where you can set the NPG jumper via switches. Is this set correct for all the slots, no mismatch in counting the small switches? Have you checked the flat ribbon cable - I had much fun with damaged cables? Have you

Re: PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

5.4, RQDX3, CQD220 and the > RX01 and RX02 controllers. > > I have read up all the back references (VCF and so on) on this subject but > I am not sure I fully understand all of the ramifications. > > > So back to the main event, the 11/94. > > This is the last of the P

PDP-11/73 and 11/94 update

am not sure I fully understand all of the ramifications. So back to the main event, the 11/94. This is the last of the PDP/11's and is a hybrid. KJD-11 CPU in a Q-bus back plane bridged to a Unibus. The KJD works and all of its monitor and boot controls are available via the console terminal

Re: RXV21 and 11/94

On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > >> > Hi Pete > I put the memory then the cpu then the RXV21 and finally the RQDX3. > System boots from the RX50 and the RD53 just fine. > > Now I need to run diagnostics on the RXV21 and then the RX02. >

Re: RXV21 and 11/94

On 08/06/2016 00:09, Pete Turnbull wrote: On 07/06/2016 21:58, Rod Smallwood wrote: Now then 11/83 - QBUS so an RXV21 to drive the RX02. But where to put it. Next to the RQDX3? After it? In front? It won't make much difference. Personally, I put it in front, but that's largely force

Re: RXV21 and 11/94

On 07/06/2016 21:58, Rod Smallwood wrote: Now then 11/83 - QBUS so an RXV21 to drive the RX02. But where to put it. Next to the RQDX3? After it? In front? It won't make much difference. Personally, I put it in front, but that's largely force of habit, born out of the need to place any

RXV21 and 11/94

Hi Having decided that the best way to get the 11/94 going was to sort out the RX02 and make sure I could boot from it.So back to the 11/83 make sure it boots of the RD53 - Yup RT11 Try the RX50 - Yup boots xxdp. Now then 11/83 - QBUS so an RXV21 to drive the RX02. But where

Re: 11/04 latest - oops, 11/94

Well lots fun with the 11/94 project. In fact its become an 11/84 and 11/94 project. After following Sherlock Holmes advice "when you have eliminated everything else.Whats left however unlikely is the answer" I discovered the RX211 needed to be in CDEF and not ABCD. Why did I not k

Re: 11/04 latest - oops, 11/94

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Mattis Lind Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 10:44 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: 11/04 latest 2016-06-05 9:58 GMT+02:00 Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com>: Well lots fun with the 11/94 project. I

11/94 Some progress at last.

Hi First thanks to all for considerable assistance. I can now talk to the RX 211 on the Unibus. First it did need the NPR jumper removing. Secondly I made the system into an 11/84 (Processor in slot 1 nothing in 2 MSV11-J in 3 ) Finally I'm so used to hex modules in Unibus and the RX

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 04/06/2016 04:40, Glen Slick wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: In addition, for the PDP-11/84, the PMI memory is different from the memory used in the PDP-11/83 The MSV11-JD and MSV11-JE are documented as being compatible with both the

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > > In addition, for the PDP-11/84, the PMI memory is different from the memory > used in the PDP-11/83 The MSV11-JD and MSV11-JE are documented as being compatible with both the PDP-11/84 and Q-bus systems. The

Re: PDP-11/94-E

>Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 7:51 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E On 6/3/2016 9:11 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: >On 03/06/2016 16:43, Jerom

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 03/06/2016 19:27, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 7:51 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E On 6/3/2016 9:11 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: >On 03/06/2016

Re: PDP-11/94-E

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: jwsmobile Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 7:51 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E On 6/3/2016 9:11 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: >On 03/06/2016 16:43, Jerome H. Fine wrote:

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 6/3/2016 9:11 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: >On 03/06/2016 16:43, Jerome H. Fine wrote: Hi its a KDJ11-B all memory on CPU board Rod I am very confused. Is your mention of memory on the CPU board for the PDP-11/83 or the PDP-11/93? I thought that the PDP-11/83

Re: PDP-11/94-E

>Rod Smallwood wrote: >On 03/06/2016 16:43, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: [Snip] 4. I have what I believed is a working 11/83 in my computer room 5 . I'm going to try my processor in there and yes I know about PMI and the backplane. Just a bit of information from what

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 03/06/2016 16:43, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >Rod Smallwood wrote: [Snip] 4. I have what I believed is a working 11/83 in my computer room 5 . I'm going to try my processor in there and yes I know about PMI and the backplane. Just a bit of information from what I seem to remember - I

Re: PDP-11/94-E

>Rod Smallwood wrote: [Snip] 4. I have what I believed is a working 11/83 in my computer room 5 . I'm going to try my processor in there and yes I know about PMI and the backplane. Just a bit of information from what I seem to remember - I hope the information is correct. The M8190-BF

Re: PDP-11/94-E

le_ there's an error in the non-standard PROMs that somehow buggers up the KTJ11. According to the "PDP-11/94 System User and Maintainence Guide" (EK-PDP94-MG-001, available online), pg. 5.49, the KTJ11 has some maintainence registers which can be set to cause it to do strange things (I'm

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > > > On 03/06/2016 14:58, Jerry Weiss wrote: >> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote >>> ….. >>> Have you checked the Unibus supply voltages? >>> … >>> >> As a rule-out make sure

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 03/06/2016 14:58, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote ….. Have you checked the Unibus supply voltages? … As a rule-out make sure the Unibus cards are getting power correctly. The Power Supply sounds like is fine and powering the QBus

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote > ….. > Have you checked the Unibus supply voltages? > … > > As a rule-out make sure the Unibus cards are getting power correctly. The Power Supply sounds like is fine and powering the QBus side of things, but if the

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> 13. I have tried a couple of other controllers - same result. As in, other kinds of boards on the UNIBUS? That's also interesting. > 13. ... I'd like to get both monitor and boot proms back to standard. I suppose it's _possible_ there's an error in the non-standard PROMs that somehow bugg

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> From: Rod Smallwood >> The RX02 controller (RX211) should be at 1170-6. > OK Here's what I did > ... > Turn machine on drop into ODT key location in and press / get ? > same for all of the others. This is for attempting to read 1170-6? (One needs the exact

Re: PDP-11/94-E

tware cannot do so)... although it could be broken. > I have what I believed is a working 11/83 in my computer room > I'm going to try my processor in there There's a section in the /94 maintainence manual (EK-PDP94-MG-001, available online) about upgrading an -11/84 to an -11/94

Re: 11/94

On 03/06/2016 03:02, Mike Ross wrote: The list doesn't permit attachments; they won't go through. Stick them up on Flickr or some other website where we can see them. Mike On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Hi I now have screen shots

Re: 11/94

The list doesn't permit attachments; they won't go through. Stick them up on Flickr or some other website where we can see them. Mike On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi > > I now have screen shots showing the screwed up monitor program. > >

11/94

Hi I now have screen shots showing the screwed up monitor program. Good pics but 11Mb can anybody take attachments that big. Rod

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 03/06/2016 01:43, Paul Koning wrote: On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: ...Turn machine on drop into ODT key location in and press / get ? same for all of the others. What's the terminal baud rate? paul 9600

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 03/06/2016 00:44, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: What are you using as a terminal? - J. On 6/2/2016 6:25 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Well I could use the wifes iPad to record the VT100's screen as a video Rod Do you have any way to capture a session log of what you're doing, and paste it

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > > ...Turn machine on drop into ODT key location in and press / get ? > same for all of the others. What's the terminal baud rate? paul

Re: PDP-11/94-E

What are you using as a terminal? - J. On 6/2/2016 6:25 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Well I could use the wifes iPad to record the VT100's screen as a video Rod Do you have any way to capture a session log of what you're doing, and paste it here? Hard to follow. - J.

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 02/06/2016 21:27, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: On 6/2/2016 3:18 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: OK Here's what I did 1. Jumpers on underside of board all on 2. KDJ11-E in first slot 3. APM in second slot connected to CPU 4. nothing in slot 3 5. Unibus Control card in slot 4 6. RX02 Control

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 6/2/2016 3:18 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: OK Here's what I did 1. Jumpers on underside of board all on 2. KDJ11-E in first slot 3. APM in second slot connected to CPU 4. nothing in slot 3 5. Unibus Control card in slot 4 6. RX02 Control card in slot 5 7 Bus Grant in 6,7 and 8 8 Bus

Re: PDP-11/94-E

tware cannot do so)... although it could be broken. > I have what I believed is a working 11/83 in my computer room > I'm going to try my processor in there There's a section in the /94 maintainence manual (EK-PDP94-MG-001, available online) about upgrading an -11/84 to an -11/94

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> ... >> For whatever reason they managed to disable the unibus I/O > > I'm not sure you can (in hardware terms, that is - and clearly if there's no > way to do it in the hardware, the software cannot do so)...

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> I have what I believed is a working 11/83 in my computer room > I'm going to try my processor in there There's a section in the /94 maintainence manual (EK-PDP94-MG-001, available online) about upgrading an -11/84 to an -11/94; you might want to read that to see if there a

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 02/06/2016 18:02, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > You could if you were able to get into ODT. I have yet to discover how > you get there. What happens when you move the "Halt/Run/Restart" switch on the front console to "Halt"? (Note that the

1202 alarm (was: Re: PDP-11/94-E)

On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:57 PM, Charles Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < > rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:Apart from a personal 1202 alarm > > I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 > error numbers.

Re: PDP-11/94-E

Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org > On Jun 1, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote: > > On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: >> On 01/06/2016 19:34, Brian L. Stuart wrote: >>> On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: > On 01/06/2016 19:34, Brian L. Stuart wrote: >> On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: >>> On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 19:34, Brian L. Stuart wrote: On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 19:21, Glen Slick wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: You could if you were able to get into ODT. I have yet to discover how you get there. Read the manual. See that setup option K is the Halt on Break option which has

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On Wed, 6/1/16, Rod Smallwood wrote: > On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood > > wrote: > > > Apart from a personal 1202 alarm > > > > I have a habit of coding "can't happen"

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 18:57, Charles Anthony wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 error numbers. -- Charles You may be close .. Do you know

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 18:50, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:24 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E > From: Henk Gooijen > The first 4 (5?) slots are QBUS Technicall

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:Apart from a personal 1202 alarm I have a habit of coding "can't happen" error checks with 1201 or 1202 error numbers. -- Charles

Re: PDP-11/94-E

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:49 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E All good information. Apart from a personal 1202 alarm (somebody out there may understand that) I did try a TK50

Re: PDP-11/94-E

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:24 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: PDP-11/94-E > From: Henk Gooijen > The first 4 (5?) slots are QBUS Technically, PMI, which is more-or-less QBUS on th

Re: PDP-11/94-E

standard serial line (DL11 clone), and the standard device location for the TU58's serial line is 776500, which is the standard address for the first serial line, and since the 11/94 has a bunch of serial lines, the code probably thinks there's a TU58 there. But there isn't... > I cant

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> If you look in the "PDP-11/84 System Technical and Reference Manual" Ooops, getting my 84's and 94's (it's the same chassis) mixed up. You of course want the "PDP-11/94-E System User and Maintenance Guide" (EK-PDP94-MG-001) http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/119

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 17:24, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: On 01/06/2016 14:39, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: OK from the beginning. 1.

Re: PDP-11/94-E

rd device location for the TU58's serial line is 776500, which is the standard address for the first serial line, and since the 11/94 has a bunch of serial lines, the code probably thinks there's a TU58 there. But there isn't... > I cant get it to go into ODT to look at the registers.

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 16:27, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Rod Smallwood Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 1:02 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: PDP-11/94-E Hi I'm trying to get my 11/94 running. Its a hybrid having both Q and Unibus

Re: PDP-11/94-E

Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org > On Jun 1, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > > > > Its possible that a low or bad battery may be causing problems if the TOY > chip is also was used to store a the bits of the Setup or other internal > status. > You said the settings are

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> > wrote: > > > > On 01/06/2016 14:39, Jerry Weiss wrote: >> >>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> >>> wrote: >>

Re: PDP-11/94-E

On 01/06/2016 14:39, Jerry Weiss wrote: On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: OK from the beginning. 1. The 11/94 is housed in deep box located in a 42inch cabinet. It uses a KDJ11-E Quad proc. board. 2.Two buses (Q and Uni) are

Re: PDP-11/94-E

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:04 AM, Rod Smallwood <rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> > wrote: > > > OK from the beginning. > > 1.The 11/94 is housed in deep box located in a 42inch cabinet. It uses a > KDJ11-E Quad proc. board. > 2.Two buses (Q a

Re: PDP-11/94-E

211's registers from ODT. If not, does the 11/94 have that 'map' command in the console emulator that the 11/84 does? Another thing to try is, if you have some other UNIBUS device, plugging that in, and seeing if the CPU can 'see' it. Noel Hello Noel Thank you for your kind

Re: PDP-11/94-E

e various EPROM's; does you console emulator provide that? > What ever I do by way of setting up devices I can't get it to talk to > the RX211. Try stopping the console emulator and falling into ODT, and seeing if you can see the RK211's registers from ODT. If not, does the 11/94

PDP-11/94-E

Hi I'm trying to get my 11/94 running. Its a hybrid having both Q and Unibus. The CPU card has a KDJ11-E 18Mhz processor with 4Mb ram and six serial ports plus the console on board. Apart from a voltage monitor card that's all there is in the Qbus section. Between the Q and Unibus