[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
I can't add attachments here. I emailed them to your direct email address. Bob On 11/17/2023 3:11 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: Hi Bob     The attachment seems to be missing. Rod Also I hae some more boards available M7856     X 2 M863     X 2 M837    X 2 M8650 M8320 M880 + H241 (MR8

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Try printing them in PETG: I've printed several of them for my 8/L and they equal the strength of factory switches. Even the little pins are more than strong enough. PETG does require a higher printing temperature (220c-230c) but is well worth it and a massive improvement over PLA. Chris On

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I have tired to print the paddle handles both SLA and FDM and none match the quality and strength of injected molded paddles. Unless you print an entire set (light and dark colors) it is nearly impossible to match the colors also.  Even if you were to find the perfect filament or resin color,

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
Hi Bob     The attachment seems to be missing. Rod Also I hae some more boards available M7856     X 2 M863     X 2 M837    X 2 M8650 M8320 M880 + H241 (MR8 EC) M849 M3310 On 16/11/2023 20:53, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? I'm lo

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
On 11/16/2023 12:53 PM, Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: Do you have any more of the DEC PDP-8 e/m/f front panels? I'm looking for one that matches the layout attached. I don't care what model (e/m/f etc.) it's for, but the rotary switch layout needs to be right and I prefer the matte finish.

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
I had some toggles printed for me professionally, but they are inferior to the originals and the colours don't match. If anyone has spare DEC LAB-8/e switches please let me know. Thanks Tom On Fri, Nov 17, 2023, 10:14 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 11/17/

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/17/2023 8:52 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: Hi Bob, I can't help with your search for 8/e front panels, but you mentioned "green switch boards". I have a nicely restored DEC LAB-8/e with green switch toggles. Do you have spare green switch toggles? I would love to have one dark green a

[cctalk] Re: PDP-8/E front panels

2023-11-17 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Hi Bob, I can't help with your search for 8/e front panels, but you mentioned "green switch boards". I have a nicely restored DEC LAB-8/e with green switch toggles. Do you have spare green switch toggles? I would love to have one dark green and one light green toggle. I don't need the actual switch

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Johannes Thelen via cctalk
I have used Access Port on Win. Lot easier than TeraTerm and also supports 110 Baud. http://www.sudt.com/en/index.html [http://www.sudt.com/images/sn_en_230x160.gif1zB] SUDT.com SUDT SerialNull 1.7: SerialNull is a profess

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 09:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
mallwood - Digital Equipment Corporation 1975 – 1985 > > > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Josh Dersch via cctalk > *Sent: *08 December 2018 06:36 > *To: *General Discussion: On-Topic and Of

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jay Jaeger > That code would not run in Windows of course, but it wouldn't be all > that difficult for someone with a C programming background to move it > to Windows under gnucc, or even Microsoft C++ or C#. I highly recommend CygWin (which comes with 'gnucc) for doing C

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
gt; From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk > Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-8/e > > On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >> On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >>> On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, sy

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 08/12/2018 09:55, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Both Farnell and Mouser UK have suitable crystals. They don't have to be the same physical size. I've changed several. -- Pete Pete Turnbull

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 12/8/18 1:55 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Dead bug a programmable epson ttl oscillator module, available from digikey

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-08 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
: Re: PDP-8/e On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:29 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > It can only do 110 baud !! > Unless you have an oddball SLU, this is not true -- what do you have installed? The earlier M8650 and the later M8655 can both be jumpered for higher baud rates. - Josh > > Se

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
Sent from Mail for Windows 110 baud > > From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk > Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-8/e > > On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > > On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > >

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
I’m sure that would work but I only have an 8650 110 baud only card Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 110 baud From: Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk Sent: 08 December 2018 03:41 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-8/e On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > On 07/12/2018 17

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 12:36 AM Josh Dersch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 10:29 PM Rod G8DGR via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > It can only do 110 baud !! > > > > Unless you have an oddball SLU, this is not true -- what do you have > installe

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
for Windows 10 > > From: Pete Turnbull via cctalk > Sent: 08 December 2018 03:15 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-8/e > > On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > >> Oh good how do y

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
It can only do 110 baud !! Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Pete Turnbull via cctalk Sent: 08 December 2018 03:15 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: PDP-8/e On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: >> Oh good how d

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
On 12/7/2018 7:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial po

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Oh, WOW!  Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud!  major screwup, ought to be reported to the developers. But wouldn't it be better to set the seri

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial port driver should do this, too, so cat would work. A P

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 11:46 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud! major screwup, ought to be reported to the developers. Jon stty can set the speed to 110 wit

Re: PDP-8/e/f/m Front Panel Knob Wanted (also general information)

2018-12-07 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 12/7/2018 7:20 PM, Thomas Moss via cctalk wrote: Hi All, I have a PDP-8/e that's missing the knob on the front panel. Does anyone have a spare for sale, or know of a compatible part? Do you mean the knob that selects which data to display on the panel lights? Got one,  bit dinged up but us

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rob Doyle via cctalk
Teraterm on Windows definitely goes to 110 baud. I use it all the time... Rob. On 12/7/2018 10:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Warner Losh via cctalk > *Sent: *07 December 2018 17:36 > *To: *systems_glitch ; General Discussion: > On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > *Subject: *Re: PDP-8/e > > > > These da

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 11:38 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Oh, WOW! Good catch, it only goes down to 300 baud! major screwup, ought to be reported to the developers. Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial port driver should do this, too, so cat would work. Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 17:22, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Thanks, Jonathan That's just what I was going to say :-) And also provided you remember which entry in /dev to redirect cat's output to, and what arcane stty command you need to set baud rate and

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Er whats tip? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Warner Losh via cctalk Sent: 07 December 2018 17:36 To: systems_glitch; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-8/e These days I just use tip. Warner On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:25 AM systems_glitch via cctalk < cct

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Rod G8DGR via cctalk
Oh good how do you set them to 110 baud? Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: systems_glitch via cctalk Sent: 07 December 2018 17:06 To: Jon Elson; CCTalk Subject: Re: PDP-8/e minicom on Linux/*BSD and OS X, TeraTerm under Windows. Thanks, Jonathan On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:48 AM Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
These days I just use tip. Warner On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 10:25 AM systems_glitch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote: > Indeed, unless you need character pacing. > > Thanks, > Jonathan > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > I ju

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Thanks, Jonathan On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:13 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I just use ‘cat’. Seems to work fine. ;-) > > TTFN - Guy > > > On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
I just use ‘cat’. Seems to work fine. ;-) TTFN - Guy > On Dec 7, 2018, at 4:57 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk > wrote: > > On 07/12/2018 09:59, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > >> OK now I need a little help. >> Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the >> reader

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
minicom on Linux/*BSD and OS X, TeraTerm under Windows. Thanks, Jonathan On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:48 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 12/07/2018 03:59 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > > > > Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the > reader on an ASR33? > > I

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/07/2018 03:59 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the reader on an ASR33? I know about RIM and BIN loaders but how and what to feed them I have long forgotten My PDP-8 course completion certificate is dated November 1975.

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread mike via cctalk
? Mike Zahorik (414) 254-6768 -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian L. Stuart via cctalk Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:05 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; Rod G8DGR Subject: Re: PDP-8/e Several years ago when I

RE: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread mike via cctalk
? Mike Zahorik (414) 254-6768 -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian L. Stuart via cctalk Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 10:05 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; Rod G8DGR Subject: Re: PDP-8/e Several years ago when I

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Brian L. Stuart via cctalk
Several years ago when I restored my 8/M, I whipped up a quick and dirty program that uses TCL/Tk to make a little graphical interface for selecting, reading, and punching paper tape images. When running, it looks something like this: https://www.cs.drexel.edu/~bls96/museum/asrscreen.jpg You nee

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/12/2018 09:59, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: OK now I need a little help. Does anybody know of a terminal emulation program that will simulate the reader on an ASR33? I know about RIM and BIN loaders but how and what to feed them I have long forgotten For a Unix or Linux machine, there

Re: PDP-8/e

2018-12-07 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Congrats!! On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 3:59 AM Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: > > Hi All >Seasons Greetings.. > > My PDP-8/e was long due for a major overhaul. > 1. So everything out > 2. Big Hoover job on the Omnibus > 3. Bring up on Variac – No smoke > 4. Check PSU volts. – All OK > 5. Power off

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-16 Thread allison via cctalk
On 8/16/17 9:38 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:35 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Note: TU58 (variant of DC100 tape) to my knowledge was never used with PDP-8 in any flavor. There is no reason why not other than no driver and it 8bit only and the blocking is 512bytes. I remem

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-16 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:35 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > Note: TU58 (variant of DC100 tape) to my knowledge was never used with PDP-8 > in any flavor. There is no reason why not other than no driver and it 8bit > only and the blocking is 512bytes. I remember a lot of discussion in PDP-8 user

Re: pdp-8/e restoration update.

2017-08-11 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
> > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:22:58 +0100 > From: Rod Smallwood > Subject: pdp-8/e restoration update. > > Hi List > > Well I think I've found why the RX01 is not responding. > > The device address (75) is not getting decoded on the controller because > the CPU does not assert BUS I/O PAUS

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-09 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Philipp Hachtmann > The DEC stuff was designed quite wrong-insertion resistant. > ... > I did it. Once. It leads to impressive fireworks on many boards. I managed to plug in an M9301 backwards, once. Luckily, most of the other boards came through OK (I think I lost one chi

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-08 Thread allison via cctalk
Note: TU58 (variant of DC100 tape) to my knowledge was never used with PDP-8 in any flavor. There is no reason why not other than no driver and it 8bit only and the blocking is 512bytes. The 8bit part is solved by storing 2 words (12bit word) to 3 bytes (24bits). It could be quite handy as a

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Ian S. King via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 08/08/2017 00:01, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > >> On 8/7/2017 3:50 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: >> >> >>> >>> One other thing - I have a working TU58. >>> The two cassette drives in a box ty

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 08/08/2017 00:01, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: On 8/7/2017 3:50 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: On 07/08/2017 22:52, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: On 07/08/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctal

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Ed via cctalk
I did not know of Kevin's site.. Great stuff there. Ed# In a message dated 8/7/2017 2:41:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: On 07/08/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: > So to-morrow connect up a terminal that will do 110 baud and try an echo >

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On 8/7/2017 3:50 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: On 07/08/2017 22:52, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: On 07/08/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: So to-morrow connect up a terminal that will

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 07/08/2017 22:52, Ian S. King via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: On 07/08/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: So to-morrow connect up a terminal that will do 110 baud and try an echo test. Next part is inter

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Ian S. King via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 07/08/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: > > So to-morrow connect up a terminal that will do 110 baud and try an echo >> test. >> >> Next part is interesting. There should be a way to fake a read

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 07/08/2017 18:37, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: So to-morrow connect up a terminal that will do 110 baud and try an echo test. Next part is interesting. There should be a way to fake a reader / punch and feed in tape images. There is. Look on Kevin McQuiggin's site: http://highgate.co

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 07/08/2017 17:05, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: On 04.08.2017 09:24, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: Hi List Hi Rod! I looks like I have at last got a KK8-E CPU set to continue getting my 8/e back running again. It looks that you have one more set stored in my facility i

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 04.08.2017 09:24, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: Hi List Hi Rod! I looks like I have at last got a KK8-E CPU set to continue getting my 8/e back running again. It looks that you have one more set stored in my facility in Hannover!!! I became feeling more and more bad about that.

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-07 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 04.08.2017 17:23, Doug Ingraham via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: 1. Should the run light glow dimly? Without looking at the schematics I can't tell you if they bothered to put the resistor in there to make it glow

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-06 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
On 06/08/2017 18:10, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > From: Ian S. King > Those keys are common across nearly all DEC machines prior to the ones > that started using plastic keys. XX2247 is the code. Someone on eBait is selling replicas for not wholly unreasonable amounts of mo

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-06 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Ian S. King > Those keys are common across nearly all DEC machines prior to the ones > that started using plastic keys. XX2247 is the code. Someone on eBait is selling replicas for not wholly unreasonable amounts of money: http://www.ebay.com/itm/142118132040 Noel

RE: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-06 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
[cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 2:00 AM To: Rod Smallwood; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: pdp-8/e restoration. Those keys are common across nearly all DEC machines prior to the ones that started using plastic keys. XX2247 is the code. -- Ian On

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-05 Thread Ian S. King via cctalk
Those keys are common across nearly all DEC machines prior to the ones that started using plastic keys. XX2247 is the code. -- Ian On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi List! > > Movin right along. > > Programmers console now prope

Re: pdp-8/e restoration the next step.

2017-08-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 08/04/2017 05:31 PM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: Hi Guys Thanks for the info so far. Well I have moved on. I now have the minimum configuration. Programmers console, M8300,M8310,M8320,M8330,M849 and 4k of core memory. The M8320 is at the far end of the bus. Well much as I f

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-04 Thread Ian S. King via cctalk
Yes, the 8/e has the 'keep-alive current'. The lamps are driven by an 8V line that runs from the power supply to the programmer's panel. -- Ian On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Doug Ingraham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < >

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-04 Thread Doug Ingraham via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 1:24 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > 1. Should the run light glow dimly? > Without looking at the schematics I can't tell you if they bothered to put the resistor in there to make it glow dimly but I can tell you that it isn't necessary for th

Re: pdp-8/e restoration.

2017-08-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 08/04/2017 02:24 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: Programmers console is in its slot. Bad bulbs (not LEDs) have been replaced Power up and all the lamps come on either bright or dim (off) except the RUN light. So questions: 1. Should the run light glow dimly? Probably all lights

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-02 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Pontus Pihlgren > I wonder what the three leftmost cabinets contains. I don't recall what > peripherals have the blinkenlights at the top. RK05 and TU10 > controllers perhaps? I have a half-done page with images of all the 5-1/4 inch indicator panels (PDP-8, -11, -15); so

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-02 Thread Paul Koning
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 08:59:50PM +0200, Mattis Lind wrote: > I found a really nice PDP-8/e sales brochure while browsing through our > heaps of documentation. > > Plenty of nice close up photos and as last picture a system with everything. > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96935524/Dator

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-02 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-05-02 11:57 GMT+02:00 Rod Smallwood : > > > On 02/05/2016 10:32, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >> On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 08:59:50PM +0200, Mattis Lind wrote: >> >>> I found a really nice PDP-8/e sales brochure while browsing through our >>> heaps of documentation. >>> >>> Plenty of nice close up

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-02 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 02/05/2016 10:32, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 08:59:50PM +0200, Mattis Lind wrote: I found a really nice PDP-8/e sales brochure while browsing through our heaps of documentation. Plenty of nice close up photos and as last picture a system with everything. https://dl.dro

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-02 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 08:59:50PM +0200, Mattis Lind wrote: > I found a really nice PDP-8/e sales brochure while browsing through our > heaps of documentation. > > Plenty of nice close up photos and as last picture a system with everything. > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96935524/Datorm

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-01 Thread william degnan
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: > I found a really nice PDP-8/e sales brochure while browsing through our > heaps of documentation. > > Plenty of nice close up photos and as last picture a system with > everything. > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96935524/Datormusuem/pd

Re: PDP-8/e sales brochure

2016-05-01 Thread COURYHOUSE
That is spectacular! thanks for sharing it! that last picture is why you needed the E with both backplanes to hold all the i/o for all those devices! Ed# In a message dated 5/1/2016 11:59:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, mattisl...@gmail.com writes: I found a really nice

Re: PDP-8/E-F-M OEM price list on eBay

2016-03-27 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 27/03/2016 11:19, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Lyle would love a scan of it! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 3/26/2016 9:59:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, lbick...@bickleywest.com writes: On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:50:02 -0400 (EDT) j...@mercury.lcs.mit.

Re: PDP-8/E-F-M OEM price list on eBay

2016-03-27 Thread COURYHOUSE
Lyle would love a scan of it! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 3/26/2016 9:59:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, lbick...@bickleywest.com writes: On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:50:02 -0400 (EDT) j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote: > Hey, all you PDP-8 peo

Re: PDP-8/E-F-M OEM price list on eBay

2016-03-26 Thread Lyle Bickley
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:50:02 -0400 (EDT) j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote: > Hey, all you PDP-8 people: there's a PDP-8/E-F-M OEM price list going > on eBay, not very much: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/272187153709 > > I saw it go past once before, figured someone would notice and

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Joshua Stetson
I've been wanting to get some reproduction switches for my 8/e, simply because I have a blue panel, but the orange switches. I would love to get a set of the blue paddles. I would go in on a set if they were injection molded or cast; unless they're some of the higher resolution eboxy based prints.

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 02/03/2016 23:36, Glen Slick wrote: On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I naturally suggest mine, available at http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/cad/3d.php What, no DSSI bus ID plugs? :) In between my adventures in Panel Land I also looked at PDP-8 switches and othe

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Glen Slick: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 3:36 PM On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I naturally suggest mine, available at http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/cad/3d.php What, no DSSI bus ID plugs? :) I had to Google what those were, being basically a PDP-8 geek. (I fo

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > > I naturally suggest mine, available at > http://www.so-much-stuff.com/pdp8/cad/3d.php > What, no DSSI bus ID plugs? :)

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Anders Nelson: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 11:16 AM I found switch levers and a mounting frame design ( http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:360853) that I would like to have casted with molded-in color, close to the originals as reasonable. I naturally suggest mine, available at http://www.so

Re: PDP-8/e - Front panel switch reproductions and front panel PCB?

2016-03-02 Thread Don North
On 3/2/2016 11:16 AM, Anders Nelson wrote: I found switch levers and a mounting frame design ( http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:360853) that I would like to have casted with molded-in color, close to the originals as reasonable. Has anyone already done this that I can simply buy from? If any inj

Re: PDP-8/e Panel Differences

2015-06-12 Thread Rod Smallwood
Yes most helpful Vince. The multitude of variants did rarther surprise me. As you say the switch change does have to be catered for. (its now a C or a D) I have had one very good scan of a B panel in from a prospective client with yet another variation. The title header for the EMA

Re: PDP-8/e Panel Differences

2015-06-12 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Rod Smallwood: Friday, June 12, 2015 1:51 AM The current debate has produced a growing list of differences between the front panels of just one model viz and towit the PDP-8/e Here's my list so far ... It would be nice to be able to correlate the one list with the other Su

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning >> I think the 11/20 might have used the slide switches (its switch >> register looks just like the one on the -8M). > .. PDP11 switches are mini toggle switches as far as I remember .. > Yes, the 11/40 and 11/45, for one; the 11/20 also. I don't have an 1

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Rod Smallwood > >> The switches were made by a company in the US called Stackpole >> ... >> They are a normal slide type modified with a U bracket to allow the >> attachment of a lever arm to operate the switch when toggled up and >>

Re: PDP 8/e Front panel Shipping Forecast

2015-06-09 Thread Chris Osborn
On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:40 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > 2, They are my Type A. (As photo) There is no photo, the mailing list removes attachments. Could you put the picture on http://imgur.com and send the link? -- Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricit

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > The switches were made by a company in the US called Stackpole > ... > They are a normal slide type modified with a U bracket to allow the > attachment of a lever arm to operate the switch when toggled up and > down. Ah; the 11/05's (which is what I

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Birkel
+1 on cool. I'd like to see a couple for an 11/40, please. Also an 8/I would definitely be useful. On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Rod Smallwood > > > I have recently produced a number of high quality custom PDP8/e front > > panels. They are full size

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-07 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 6/7/2015 9:01 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 08/06/2015 02:51, Mike Ross wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > I have recently produced a number of high quality custom PDP8/e front > panels. They are full size reproductions of t

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-07 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 08/06/2015 02:51, Mike Ross wrote: On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > I have recently produced a number of high quality custom PDP8/e front > panels. They are full size reproductions of the original. The > production methods ar

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-07 Thread Mike Ross
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Rod Smallwood > > > I have recently produced a number of high quality custom PDP8/e front > > panels. They are full size reproductions of the original. The > > production methods are exactly as used in circa 1971. > > F

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-07 Thread Rod Smallwood
The switches were made by a company in the US called Stackpole They still exist. The switches are marked Patent 3217112 They are a normal slide type modified with a U bracket to allow the attachment of a lever arm to operate the switch when toggled up and down. They come in three types ; h

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-07 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > I have recently produced a number of high quality custom PDP8/e front > panels. They are full size reproductions of the original. The > production methods are exactly as used in circa 1971. First, my sincere congratulations! This is a real contribution, an

Re: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-06 Thread William Maddox
Hi, Rob.  I'll definitely take one of the panels.  If you make another lot, or your capacity is not otherwise oversubscribed, I'll take two of them.Thanks, --Bill From: Rod Smallwood To: gene...@classiccmp.org Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:41 PM Subject: PDP-8/e front panels. Hi G

RE: PDP-8/e front panels.

2015-06-06 Thread Robert Jarratt
If you attached a photo it didn't come through. I think the list does not allow attachments. Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod > Smallwood > Sent: 06 June 2015 23:42 > To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp