Anyone remember the multicolored "Orb" computers of the late 70s?
I'm sure there were others.
--Chuck
On 05/16/2016 11:19 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> I'm not a proponent either way, but I guess the difference is the
> panda/archistrat was 10 years earlier and breaking the monoscape of
> the beige boxes, while the Vento was following a 7-year-old trend
> initiated by the iMac.
It wasn't for want of
On 2016-May-16, at 10:41 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 05/16/2016 09:47 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>
>> http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda
>
> How do these differ in substance from the ASUS Vento (a real product
> from 2005) that I cited days ago?
>
> https://www.asus.com/websi
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Swift Griggs wrote:
>
>
> In the 1980's and 1990's SGI was a bright shining exception and I love
> them for that early middle finger to the beige box priesthood. Apple/NeXT
> did a decent job, too. Once they became one and Jobs got his way, he seems
> to have set
On 05/16/2016 09:47 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda
How do these differ in substance from the ASUS Vento (a real product
from 2005) that I cited days ago?
https://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/2zMfr955ALh3EoZJ/TA-36_three.gif
--Chuck
On 2016-May-16, at 9:57 AM, Swift Griggs wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>> http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda Found with some
>> judicious googling. I guess that's cheating, so no prize for me.
>
> I cheated and found it with Google Image Search but I kep
On Mon, 16 May 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda Found with some
> judicious googling. I guess that's cheating, so no prize for me.
I cheated and found it with Google Image Search but I kept quiet to let
others run it down.
> Seems to have been
On 2016-May-16, at 9:08 AM, Sean Caron wrote:
> On Sat, 14 May 2016, Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> Companies other than SGI did 'interesting' colors. Here's something
>> really obscure; bonus points to anyone who can identify it just from
>> the photo. No cheating! And treble points for anyone who HAS on
On Sat, 14 May 2016, Mike Ross wrote:
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote:
Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and
gray were the colors they wanted.
When companies buy, someone will have to approv
On 05/13/2016 10:27 PM, Swift Griggs wrote:
> They would, and I agree that it'd be neat-looking to the right
> observer. It's interesting to compare the modern blinkenlights in
> datacenters to the flippers and diagnostic LEDs, component LEDs, and
> even SGI's front panel CPU graphs. My favorite e
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck
Guzis
> Sent: 14 May 2016 01:43
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)
>
> For the S/360
On Sat, 14 May 2016, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
> Blue? That's so pass?! Right now the popularity is to go full *RAINBOW!*
> with the RGB LEDs...
It's wrong and a crime against nature. I hate that kind of flea market
bait.
> Though yeah, intense blue is getting just a bit annoying; though
On Fri, 13 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> I don't remember the stack of RCA connectors, but yeah, Apple definitely
> rode on the coat tails of Bell & Howell 16mm movie (and 35mm film strip)
> projector sales :-)
Scope out this picture if you have time:
http://www.oldcomputers.net/pics/bandh
On Sat, 14 May 2016, Tor Arntsen wrote:
> Even the case, according to http://www.oldcomputers.net/bellandhowell.html
> "The normally beige case was colored black (only on the surface, it is
> still beige underneath)"
I think it looks pretty classy. It matches my slide projector. :-)
I agree with
On 14 May 2016 at 00:41, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> It's not just LEDs, but intense "blue" LEDs. I'm starting to hate that
> color.
>
Blue? That's so passé! Right now the popularity is to go full
*RAINBOW!* with the RGB LEDs...
Though yeah, intense blue is getting just a bit annoying; though I
admit I
On 05/13/2016 09:26 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
> A lot of time however you'll find colour in your components and of
> course the strange obsession with "Let's put LEDs on everything."
> Thus why a lot of cases marketed towards "gamers" have transparent
> plexi on the side.
It's not jus
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just
> like an Apple?
They _were_ an Apple - not a clone, but rebadged and with a few
important mods (mentioned here by others with the RCA jacks and the
power cord).
The imp
On 13 May 2016 at 22:06, william degnan wrote:
> Today, who has a colorful case on their modern PC?
If we exclude case modders, and people who build their own cases...
Most "gaming" cases are slightly colourful. Still mostly one colour
with highlights. Though the cases have very... interesting..
On 14 May 2016 at 04:34, Jason T wrote:
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>> Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B&H's
>> were an independent product. Apple licensed them to try to step on the
>> clone market. I can't fathom Apple let
On 14 May 2016 at 04:20, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>
>> On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
>>
>> They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus
>> computers produced by Apple for B&H for a time.
>
> Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really?
Yes, look at this pic
> On May 13, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> "undercut"??!?
> I seriously doubt that the B&H "Black Apple" was cheaper. But, it had B&H's
> credibility backing it up for skeptical school boards, who bought tons of B&H
> AV equipment, but didn't know what a "personal computer" was.
>
They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus
computers produced by Apple for B&H for a time.
On Fri, 13 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the
B&H's were an independent product.
Not independent.
Apple licens
> On May 13, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Jason T wrote:
>
> Apple made a deal with
> well-known educational vendor B&H, who made black cases with a special
> A/V box on the back (a cluster of RCA connectors)
I don't remember the stack of RCA connectors, but yeah, Apple definitely rode
on the coat tails
Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem
just like an Apple?
On Fri, 13 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very fuzzy, but ISTR they
were a licensed clone of the Apple ][. And they actually worked.
Yes, they were. They ha
On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B&H's
> were an independent product. Apple licensed them to try to step on the clone
> market. I can't fathom Apple letting someone else sell their own product
> (m
On 05/13/2016 07:06 PM, william degnan wrote:
> Today, who has a colorful case on their modern PC?
Dunno--the ASUS Vento was pretty cool; very colorful without a right
angle on the case.
Too bad that it had the reputation of being junk.
Can one still buy a Vento case?
--Chuck
> On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
>
> They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus
> computers produced by Apple for B&H for a time.
Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B&H's
were an independent product. Apple licensed them
Today, who has a colorful case on their modern PC?
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
> On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote:
>
>> Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and
>> gray were the colors they wanted.
>
> When companies buy, someone will have to approve (that is, provide the
> money)
On 14 May 2016 at 03:16, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
>
>> On May 13, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>
>> Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just
>> like an Apple?
>
> I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very fuzzy, but ISTR they were a
> licensed clon
> On May 13, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just
> like an Apple?
I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very fuzzy, but ISTR they were a
licensed clone of the Apple ][. And they actually worked.
--lyndon
Intel MDS was blue as well
On May 13, 2016 8:11 PM, "Fred Cisin" wrote:
> GE used black on their computers
>>
>
>
> Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just
> like an Apple?
>
> B&H was able to get away with a bluish color for their 500 series
> Filmosound project
GE used black on their computers
Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just
like an Apple?
B&H was able to get away with a bluish color for their 500 series
Filmosound projectors, but it was an uphill battle after the JANs and
then the brown suitcases of the
On Sat, 14 May 2016, Tor Arntsen wrote:
Beancounter (looking in sales brochure): "Purple? We don't do that
kind of thing here. This other model will do, surely" (points to beige
version).
If you are only going to have one color, then beige is preferable,
followed by black, and quite a bit furt
> From: Chuck Guzis
> Styles change.
And like women's hem-lines, they eventually work their way back to a previous
generations' (now semi-forgotten) style.
I remember being amused when black became the 'new' 'cool colour' for PC's;
back to the era of KA10's and early PDP-11's!!
For the S/360 systems, there was a wide choice of colors. In fact, most
of the S/360s I saw initially were that orangish-red. I've heard it
referred to as "International Orange" in accordance with Federal
Specification 595:
http://www.fed-std-595.com/FS-595-Paint-Spec.html
In the early 1970s, C
GE used black on their computers for the workmasters witch where IBM 5150's
On May 13, 2016 7:29 PM, "Tor Arntsen" wrote:
> On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote:
>
> > Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and
> > gray were the colors they wanted.
>
> When co
On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote:
> Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and
> gray were the colors they wanted.
When companies buy, someone will have to approve (that is, provide the
money). That's often the company's own beancounters.. Engineer:
"We'll
> I was so disgusted with IBM and other TLAs who I won't name for fear of
> being flame-blasted for the "beige orthodoxy". Most companies always acted
> like doing any industrial design or adding color would scare off their
> business customers.
Do not blame the computer companies, blame the custo
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