Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

Anyone remember the multicolored "Orb" computers of the late 70s? I'm sure there were others. --Chuck

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 05/16/2016 11:19 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > I'm not a proponent either way, but I guess the difference is the > panda/archistrat was 10 years earlier and breaking the monoscape of > the beige boxes, while the Vento was following a 7-year-old trend > initiated by the iMac. It wasn't for want

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 2016-May-16, at 10:41 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 05/16/2016 09:47 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > >> http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda > > How do these differ in substance from the ASUS Vento (a real product > from 2005) that I cited days ago? > >

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > > In the 1980's and 1990's SGI was a bright shining exception and I love > them for that early middle finger to the beige box priesthood. Apple/NeXT > did a decent job, too. Once they became one and Jobs got his way,

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 05/16/2016 09:47 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda How do these differ in substance from the ASUS Vento (a real product from 2005) that I cited days ago? https://www.asus.com/websites/global/products/2zMfr955ALh3EoZJ/TA-36_three.gif --Chuck

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 2016-May-16, at 9:57 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote: >> http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda Found with some >> judicious googling. I guess that's cheating, so no prize for me. > > I cheated and found it with Google Image Search but I

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Mon, 16 May 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote: > http://www.studiofynn.com/design/computer-server-panda Found with some > judicious googling. I guess that's cheating, so no prize for me. I cheated and found it with Google Image Search but I kept quiet to let others run it down. > Seems to have

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 2016-May-16, at 9:08 AM, Sean Caron wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2016, Mike Ross wrote: >> >> Companies other than SGI did 'interesting' colors. Here's something >> really obscure; bonus points to anyone who can identify it just from >> the photo. No cheating! And treble points for anyone who HAS

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Sat, 14 May 2016, Mike Ross wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote: On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote: Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and gray were the colors they wanted. When

RE: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis > Sent: 14 May 2016 01:43 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay) > > For the

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Sat, 14 May 2016, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > Blue? That's so pass?! Right now the popularity is to go full *RAINBOW!* > with the RGB LEDs... It's wrong and a crime against nature. I hate that kind of flea market bait. > Though yeah, intense blue is getting just a bit annoying;

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Fri, 13 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > I don't remember the stack of RCA connectors, but yeah, Apple definitely > rode on the coat tails of Bell & Howell 16mm movie (and 35mm film strip) > projector sales :-) Scope out this picture if you have time:

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Sat, 14 May 2016, Tor Arntsen wrote: > Even the case, according to http://www.oldcomputers.net/bellandhowell.html > "The normally beige case was colored black (only on the surface, it is > still beige underneath)" I think it looks pretty classy. It matches my slide projector. :-) I agree with

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 14 May 2016 at 00:41, Chuck Guzis wrote: > It's not just LEDs, but intense "blue" LEDs. I'm starting to hate that > color. > Blue? That's so passé! Right now the popularity is to go full *RAINBOW!* with the RGB LEDs... Though yeah, intense blue is getting just a bit

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 05/13/2016 09:26 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > A lot of time however you'll find colour in your components and of > course the strange obsession with "Let's put LEDs on everything." > Thus why a lot of cases marketed towards "gamers" have transparent > plexi on the side. It's not

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just > like an Apple? They _were_ an Apple - not a clone, but rebadged and with a few important mods (mentioned here by others with the RCA jacks and the

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 13 May 2016 at 22:06, william degnan wrote: > Today, who has a colorful case on their modern PC? If we exclude case modders, and people who build their own cases... Most "gaming" cases are slightly colourful. Still mostly one colour with highlights. Though the cases

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 14 May 2016 at 04:34, Jason T wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B's >> were an independent product. Apple licensed them to try to step on the >>

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 14 May 2016 at 04:20, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote: >> >> They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus >> computers produced by Apple for B for a time. > > Apple manufactured an OEM Apple

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > "undercut"??!? > I seriously doubt that the B "Black Apple" was cheaper. But, it had B's > credibility backing it up for skeptical school boards, who bought tons of B > AV equipment, but didn't know what a "personal

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus computers produced by Apple for B for a time. On Fri, 13 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B's were an independent product. Not independent. Apple licensed

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Jason T wrote: > > Apple made a deal with > well-known educational vendor B, who made black cases with a special > A/V box on the back (a cluster of RCA connectors) I don't remember the stack of RCA connectors, but yeah, Apple definitely rode

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just like an Apple? On Fri, 13 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very fuzzy, but ISTR they were a licensed clone of the Apple ][. And they actually worked. Yes, they were. They

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B's > were an independent product. Apple licensed them to try to step on the clone > market. I can't fathom Apple letting someone else sell their

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 05/13/2016 07:06 PM, william degnan wrote: > Today, who has a colorful case on their modern PC? Dunno--the ASUS Vento was pretty cool; very colorful without a right angle on the case. Too bad that it had the reputation of being junk. Can one still buy a Vento case? --Chuck

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote: > > They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus > computers produced by Apple for B for a time. Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B's were an independent product.

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

Today, who has a colorful case on their modern PC?

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote: > On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote: > >> Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and >> gray were the colors they wanted. > > When companies buy, someone will have

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 14 May 2016 at 03:16, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >> On May 13, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> >> Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just >> like an Apple? > > I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just > like an Apple? I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very fuzzy, but ISTR they were a licensed clone of the Apple ][. And they actually

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

Intel MDS was blue as well On May 13, 2016 8:11 PM, "Fred Cisin" wrote: > GE used black on their computers >> > > > Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just > like an Apple? > > B was able to get away with a bluish color for their 500 series >

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

GE used black on their computers Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just like an Apple? B was able to get away with a bluish color for their 500 series Filmosound projectors, but it was an uphill battle after the JANs and then the brown suitcases of the

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Sat, 14 May 2016, Tor Arntsen wrote: Beancounter (looking in sales brochure): "Purple? We don't do that kind of thing here. This other model will do, surely" (points to beige version). If you are only going to have one color, then beige is preferable, followed by black, and quite a bit

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> From: Chuck Guzis > Styles change. And like women's hem-lines, they eventually work their way back to a previous generations' (now semi-forgotten) style. I remember being amused when black became the 'new' 'cool colour' for PC's; back to the era of KA10's and early PDP-11's!!

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

For the S/360 systems, there was a wide choice of colors. In fact, most of the S/360s I saw initially were that orangish-red. I've heard it referred to as "International Orange" in accordance with Federal Specification 595: http://www.fed-std-595.com/FS-595-Paint-Spec.html In the early 1970s,

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

GE used black on their computers for the workmasters witch where IBM 5150's On May 13, 2016 7:29 PM, "Tor Arntsen" wrote: > On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote: > > > Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and > >

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On 14 May 2016 at 00:20, William Donzelli wrote: > Do not blame the computer companies, blame the customers. Beige and > gray were the colors they wanted. When companies buy, someone will have to approve (that is, provide the money). That's often the company's own

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> I was so disgusted with IBM and other TLAs who I won't name for fear of > being flame-blasted for the "beige orthodoxy". Most companies always acted > like doing any industrial design or adding color would scare off their > business customers. Do not blame the computer companies, blame the

beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

On Fri, 13 May 2016, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:> > At first glance, it doesn't appear to be hand painted. Anyone on here > know about such things? Were other colors available? I was so disgusted with IBM and other TLAs who I won't name for fear of being flame-blasted for the "beige orthodoxy".