Re: What About McCain?

2004-10-30 Thread Sam Morris
So you agree he's not in the center? Kerry and McCain were both in Viet Nam. Do you really think they get along now? It's always the "right wing conspiricy" when you don't get your way, try to look at the whole picture. -sm --- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:07

Re: What About McCain?

2004-10-30 Thread Sam Morris
Sorry I’m late folks, very busy. Anyway. Gruss, Do you think you are in the center because you’re all the way to left except for one issue where you're all the way to the right? You're not, your all the way on the left you just don't know it. Very few people are all the way to the Right or Left.

Re: Community Suite Schedule

2004-10-30 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I forgot to add that on Thursday at 11:00 AM, we'll be doing a raffle for the Xbox and a book auction (Suite closes at 12 PM on Thursday). Hope to see you all at CF_Underground, at the Suite, and at MAX! Judith - Original Message - > Location: Hampton Inn and Suites > 1201 Convention

Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Angel wrote: > National Security Before 9/11, when we were presumably at peace, the threat level was green I guess. Now it's not, and OBL just told us he's still out there actively planning to attack the US again. That's less security than we had in 2000. Further you could add in the fact tha

Community Suite Schedule

2004-10-30 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Location: Hampton Inn and Suites 1201 Convention Center Blvd. Room Number TBA (Look for our business cards at CF_Underground and for information online.) The Suite Opens at 5:00 PM Sunday, and at 9 AM every other day. Scheduled Speakers: MONDAY 12:30 PM Jeff Peters on "Complex Data Types" 2:

Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > If you can't measure it you can't achieve it? Pure BS. What about happiness? The first part is management 101, but your second question - I don't know what you're referring to. > Number of Dictatorships WMD's - here you are just wrong. The with Libya and Iraq, > the count is

Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Angel wrote: > What makes you say that Presidential trust with the American people is down? Are claiming that if Mr. Bush says tomorrow that US intelligence shows that we must invade another country, you'll believe him? You don't think there'd be greater national, world and Congressional doubt t

Re: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > just cause you back a paradigm that doesn't succeed > doesn't make you a bad CEO. Most experiments fail. When you're diverting funds and resources from fully supporting your bread and butter, it does make you a bad CEO. Exploring adjacencies is fine, just make sure your main line

Re: Something I've noticed...

2004-10-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Ya know, I wish the Kerry campaign had dug up the footage of H.W. Bush using the waffle attack on Clinton back in 92. It's a MO of the Republicans and pulling out that footage would have been a laugh. -Kevin On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:39:56 -0600, dana tierney wrote: > The giant flip flops at leas

RE: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
No problem. Got my vote. :-) Enjoy Max Mike ... And anyone else who is going. Hopefully I will get my company to foot the bill for me next year. Mike -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 11:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject:

Re: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Michael Dinowitz
They are asking what their next product should cover and one of the options is CF (another is dreamweaver). > I guess I should have asked, what the purpose of the vote is.. > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:36 PM > To:

Re: cf_underground

2004-10-30 Thread David Lakein
> OK, I'm in New Orleans alreay and I want to come to CF_Underground > tomorrow, seems like a shame to miss a good event. Now for the tricky > part- where is it? The cfconf.org Web site is not responding. Any info? Site is back up now. Pan American Conference Center 601 Poydras Street New Orlea

RE: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Jim Davis
It appears to be a company that produces programming aides (laminated cheat sheets, basically). They're taking a survey to determine for which programming language they'll next produce materials. I think it's really just "community pride" thing - when you see the possibility to vote for CF over o

RE: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
I guess I should have asked, what the purpose of the vote is.. -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Vote CF Why not? ;^) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mail

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Wow. Are you ever constrained by facts? If you can't measure it you can't achieve it? Pure BS. What about happiness? And your fact list just doesn't cut it. Pure supposition on your part. Both cons and pros. For example, what makes you think that new leaders haven't stepped up? Your middle

RE: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Gruss, You've logic doesn't flow and none of it has anything to do with an MBA -- which is about as far away from the factory floor as you can get. Your first statement starts at the self-evident and moves quickly to fallacies. Growth doesn't always take time, but does take a market and distribut

RE: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Jim Davis
Why not? ;^) Jim Davis -Original Message- From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Vote CF Why? ~| Purchase from House of Fusion,

Re: Halloween Get Together.

2004-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
> maybe we can all meet down in the lobby of the hilton @ some time, and > make a group parade up to bourbon skreet? watch'yalls think? > > if my calc's are correct its about a 1/2 mile walk... should be > GREAT!!! I just did the walk from the hotel down through the French Q to Bourbon, ov

Re: Halloween Get Together.

2004-10-30 Thread Candace Cottrell
I wasn't planning on dressing up, but I could maybe do a hippie thing. Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer The Children's Medical Center One Children's Plaza Dayton, OH 45404 937-641-4293 http://www.childrensdayton.org "There is no right price for the wrong product, even if it is inexpensiv

RE: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Angel Stewart
What makes you say that Presidential trust with the American people is down? Or Congressional Trust, National Security, Civil Liberties etc. ? Only the results of the election will say that. So far the two are running neck and neck. So the only facts and statistics we have to go on suggests tha

cf_underground

2004-10-30 Thread Robert Munn
OK, I'm in New Orleans alreay and I want to come to CF_Underground tomorrow, seems like a shame to miss a good event. Now for the tricky part- where is it? The cfconf.org Web site is not responding. Any info? ~| Sams Teach Yours

RE: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Why? -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:40 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Vote CF Take the survey at http://www.visibone.com/colorlab/big.html and tell them that you want their next product run to be ColdFusion. ~~

Re: What About McCain?

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > Gruss! since when do you use "liberal" as a synonym for "irresponsible"? Did I do that? I am against big gov't, big money federal programs (like no child left behind), but as long as they're funded, they're not irresponsible. ~

Re: Vote CF

2004-10-30 Thread Tony Weeg
:) done. leaving in 16 hours!! max here we come On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:50:56 -0400, Dharmesh Goel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > done! > > DG > > ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support

Re: Something I've noticed...

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
if there's no issue why make one by dressing up as ketchup bottles? The giant flip flops at least have a point even if it *is* a mindless point :) On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:02:20 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But his name is Hienz and his family made there money > mainly throu

Re: What About McCain?

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
Gruss! since when do you use "liberal" as a synonym for "irresponsible"? On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:45:17 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ken wrote: > > If Bush wasn't so far right he would easily when this election. > > I think that's good analysis. I would just add that Mr. Bush

Re: What About McCain?

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
Actually, I kinda like Powelltoo bad he stuck around the Bush administration. To my mind this impaired his reputation for integrity. Dana On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:25:08 -0500, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Powell! > > Right now he's probably the only one who could get me excited about a > ca

Re: What About McCain?

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
no such place as the middle... where to begin :) This is a statement of black and white thinking if I ever saw one :) Dana On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:32:20 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > He works too hard at being in the middle. There is no such place > > and to try

Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Howie Hamlin wrote: > invading Iraq has actually had the net effect of putting the weapons into the hands > of terrorists > more effectively than Saddam Hussein would or could ever have dreamed of. I think what's salient is that you can make a reasonable argument that invading Iraq actually did c

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
whoever leaked this may well have been trying to ambush the president. The New York TImes was just reporting what appears to be a substantiated story On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:06:11 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert wrote: > >> The plot thickens > > > >Somewhat, but I

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
it's pretty easy to get a negative opinion about Bush though. Someone accused me the other day of unconditional support of Kerry. Heheh. If Kerry trashed the constitution, put us billions in debt and set civil liberties and science back a few decades, I might not favor Kerry. Tax cut or no tax cut

Re: Online Universities

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
answering for me alone - the hardest part of college for me was always getting there. Either a kid was sick or the car was down or even when none of that was a factor, I am very easily distracted :P Online classes usually have deadlines too -- but they tend to be on the order of "must be submitted

Re: Online Universities

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
don't forget that in real life there are students willing to pay a premium for them. Dana On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:49:06 -0500, Eric Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am thinking of getting an MBA - too cheap to pay for it though. My mindset > has always been --- get it online. I think the onl

Re: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
the truism I like is: nothing happens until somebody sells something. In other words, all those inconvenient nitty-gritty details like product *do* matter. Dana On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:51:30 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy wrote: > > Then he should rejoin the military at a l

Re: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
I fail to see why Bush would be the default choice. He has yet to catch the guy after all. But I agree, let us not give this asshole legitimacy. Dana On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 00:51:40 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I think Mr. Bush said it best today, "Americans will not be > >intim

Re: Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
The Pentagon held a briefing yesterday to suggest that some of this material at least was removed by American troops. The major they brought to the briefing looked mortified, as if he was there under orders, but refused under questioning from reporters to assert that the materials his troops remove

Re: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > Then he should rejoin the military at a lower level. The Best CEO's are not > those that know how to work the lathe. What school did you get your MBA from? The best CEOs are the ones that know the business, understand that growth takes time and partnerships, and can manage at eac

Bush gave terrorists more weapons than Saddam ever would have...

2004-10-30 Thread Howie Hamlin
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- (OfficialWire) -- 10/30/04 -- New evidence emerged in the United States on Friday that appears to contradict claims by George W. Bush and his administration that some 360 tons of explosives previously located in Iraq were looted before U.S. troops occupied the country. Nine d

RE: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

2004-10-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Then he should rejoin the military at a lower level. The Best CEO's are not those that know how to work the lathe. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 12:28 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bin Laden shows his ugly face > Jim wr

RE: Online Universities

2004-10-30 Thread Eric Dawson
>> impersonal intranet class room. curious comment... is the Internet in general "impersonal"? or is that a gap in how educational programming is delivered? >> With an on-line class, the student is completely on their >> honor to "attend" the class: How does that contrast a classroom? plus same

RE: Online Universities

2004-10-30 Thread Eric Dawson
I am thinking of getting an MBA - too cheap to pay for it though. My mindset has always been --- get it online. I think the online medium for education will become an essential component --- even in the bricks and mortar classrooms. >> extroverts learn better that way? learning styles. tailored ed

RE: Online Universities

2004-10-30 Thread Eric Dawson
I am thinking of getting an MBA - too cheap to pay for it though. My mindset has always been --- get it online. I think the online medium for education will become an essential component --- even in the bricks and mortar classrooms. >> extroverts learn better that way? learning styles. tailored ed

Arafat most likely has Leukemia.

2004-10-30 Thread Angel Stewart
Palestinian sources say Arafat's era as leader is over. Now comes the drama, who will be the next leader? -GEl ~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseo