Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
> Remember the quota of H1B visa applications was reached in a single day this > year. The number of H1B visas was severly curtailed as a direct result of 9/11. Los Administracion Del Bush is directly responsible for that. It was not, I say again, NOT a response to illegal immigration. It was bl

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
> What is to stop a programmer from crossing the border illegally? See, now the image I get is some white collar dude in a pick-up pulling up to a street corner in New York City shouting, "javascreept, perrrl, say ploos ploos, nada mas!" heehee -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just b

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
No, I'm saying that in case of belief the burden of proof is on the smaller percentage. Nothing about validation, just that the battle isn't easy, and it shouldn't be. People shouldn't be willing to give up one idea for another just because it sounds cooler. As for how you could prove it Bush didn

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Adaptation isn't evolution, Humans adapt, our bodies have changed over time based on where we have lived and things we do. Evolution creates new species, not just modifications of existing ones. It is new chromosomes, new genetics, creating a completely different being that leaves behind the old f

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On 5/7/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nope not idiots, but the theory that Bush knew is at least provable. It > is a question of fact. > That's a very scary position you takeare you saying that if enough people believe something regardless of whether or not it can be proved, it

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > The problem is evolution isn't something we are able to > experiment with, we can't reproduce it in a lab That's exactly what evolution is. There are 1000s of experiments with fish, fruit flies, etc that all show that creatures adapt to their surroundings and/or mutate due to any

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Nope not idiots, but the theory that Bush knew is at least provable. It is a question of fact. Unlike Creationism the belief that Bush knew isn't the majority viewpoint, it is a minority view point held by people that are made fun of on all sides of the debate. Creationism is something made fun o

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
so then what you're saying is that people aren't idiots if they give credence to a theory that Bush knew? Afterall, they're only believing in something greater than what they can prove. On 5/7/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who cares? Does that make you an idiot because you believ

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
It has nothing to do with fear, it has to do with the lack of answers. Evolution doesn't answer anything, while creationism answers it all, just not well. Having Faith doesn't make you a freak, in a world where the majority of people believe in some form of creationism, that there is something gr

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > Evolution doesn't answer the question of creation, only the changes in > life over time. > Exactly. So why do JFs try so hard to oppose it? Because they're afraid of the truth; a truth that the path of science might reveal. They're afraid that if they keep listening their faith w

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Evolution doesn't answer the question of creation, only the changes in life over time. You can easily believe in both, but you still have to have a theory about the creation of the universe and the world. Evolution doesn't deal with that, and so these numbers don't mean anything because they don't

RE: reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
They are probably referring to your connection to the internet. The Local network is probably 100Mb but the connection to the external network could easily be 6Mb which would be the equivalent of 4 T1 lines, or possibly a partial dS3 frame connection. It could also be a DSL line. What type of con

RE: reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Cat-5 has to do with how the pairs are wrapped and the ends. By 6mps do you mean 6mbs? That would be 6 Megabits. Or about 100x 56k dialup. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: reality check - bandwi

Re: Hotmail and Web 2.0

2007-05-07 Thread Chesty Puller
Actually, the new interface was too slow and they decided to go with a lighter version originally intended for older browsers. It's actually quite enlightening - it shows that the old web is very much still alive and kicking. - Matt Small - Original Message - From: "Nick McClure" <[

RE: Hotmail and Web 2.0

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
No, keep in mind Hotmail is still several times more popular than gmail. They were making it work Outlook web access that ships with Exchange. It's very cool. However the average hot mail user didn't want it. They created a new less interactive one and people loved it. -Original Message- F

Re: reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
umm. I don't think it's you that is out of your league. Or me for that matter... I suspect TYPOSPAWN the evil malefactor who stalks Word dictionaries by night, and infiltrates Word templates by day. Who knows what gibberish lurks in the heart of the Clipboard? Only the paperclip knows. Wow.

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Who cares? Does that make you an idiot because you believe there is something greater than you? There are various levels of belief in creationism, not all 8-10 believe in the fundamentalist timeline that makes dates the earth to under 10k years or whatever it is. -Original Message- From:

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
My bet is employers. Employers need people they can trust. Illegal immigrants aren't that. They could be gone in a week after being arrested and sent back. -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:45 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Inv

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Larry Lyons
> And can you provide those numbers? Maybe on the wacko, religious side > of the republican party. Not all republicans live in Kansas. > > >Mind you 8 out of 10 republicans believe in creationism. That says a > lot. To start, http://www.livescience.com/health/060810_evo_rank.html illustrates

Re: reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Andrew Scott
ok well I am out of my leauge then, never heard of it... On 5/8/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > nope someone is tell me bandwidth was upgraded from 3mb to 6mb. I assumed > the person was clueless, but they have now produced the purchase orders ;) > Much as I might have to say abo

Re: reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
nope someone is tell me bandwidth was upgraded from 3mb to 6mb. I assumed the person was clueless, but they have now produced the purchase orders ;) Much as I might have to say about the network here, it's way faster than that. I mean ... I mean... the network here is 100Mbps. And the pipe to th

Re: reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Andrew Scott
Is it possibly a type? ADSL2 is not even close to ethernet 10/100baseT... Unless this is the technology used to compress dialups to make them upto 19x faster, using a standard modem Can't say I have heard of mps... Do you have a reference article? On 5/8/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
And this condemnation of illegal aliens comes, mind you, from someone who claims to have hired one. >"They think they are special in some way." Or that many are people >facing hard choices and doing what they can to better their lives and >their descendants.

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
Sorry. This story is so far from my experience as a foreigner in this country that I simply cannot believe it. You hired a programmer who had no papers? Why? > Then don't. > > Like I said, _I_ know 5. All had UNAM diplomas in Computer Science. > Only 2 had resident alien paperwork; 1 H1B an

reality check - bandwidth

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
6mps ~ 12x dialup? What sort of media would this be? cat-5? thanks ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: ht

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
Pfft. Can you prove these? For that matter, can you prove any part of the argument you are making here? If not, this is purely a faith-based argument. > > Russ wrote: > > And can you provide those numbers? Maybe on the wacko, religious > side of the republican party. Not all republicans live i

Re: Saudi strip

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
I guess the question is how they would be found out. I always wonder that, actually, in these countries where women go around covered from head to toe. No one knows what they look like, so who would know to identify them except for their immediate family? On 5/7/07, Dana wrote: > > I'm assuming w

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > And can you provide those numbers? Maybe on the wacko, religious side of the > republican party. Not all republicans live in Kansas. Well, 4 of the 10 official Republican candidates said they didn't believe in evolution during the last Republican debate. ~~~

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > I'm asking what if it were skilled laborers coming across in droves? We don't need people to come here in droves, especially developers, because we can just send those jobs offshore. And are. Without regulation. Here's the dilio: keep your skill set up to date, and watch trends,

Re: Hotmail and Web 2.0

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
the "slick" interface never worked quite right with Firefox, and the bits that did sucked anyway. they just needed more talented people than they had, or maybe less bureaucracy. -- --- Robert Munn www.funkymojo.com ~

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
The CIA, NSA, etc. knew for years that something big was in the wind. Remember the first World Trade Center bombing? Remember the USS Cole? The African embassy bombings? Khobar Towers? These events did not go unnoticed in the U.S. government. But it is a big jump from knowing that Al Qaeda wants t

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
LOL, nice catch! On 5/7/07, Rick Root wrote: > > > > Actuallly what it tells me is that 35% of the democrats polled are > idiots and 22% of the republicans polled are either idiots. > > It also tells me that the author of the article is a republican, > because the stats he used were "35% idiots" f

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Rick Root
On 5/7/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mostly it tells you that younger voters skew Democratic, and they are > totally ignorant of how the world actually works. Actuallly what it tells me is that 35% of the democrats polled are idiots and 22% of the republicans polled are either idiot

Re: Hotmail and Web 2.0

2007-05-07 Thread Rick Root
Wow, I didn't use HotMail. Did they put too MUCH crap into it? Did Microsoft once again fail to grasp what's making Gmail so popular? Rick On 5/7/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is an interesting article on Hotmail and MS move away from Web 2.0. It > seems that the users didn

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Skinner
"Illegal immigration is a problem." A very complex one! The "gather them all up and deport|jail|shoot them" approach is not even the start of a solution. "They may be hard workers, but they have no respect for the law." That is too large a logical leap for me. They broke emigration law, they ca

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Clinton even took his head from between Monica's legs long enough to find out something was up. The only people who knoew the specifics, however, are either answering to Allah or on the run. >I would also debate what does the word "know" mean in this question. > >I do not believe that anybody i

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Then don't. Like I said, _I_ know 5. All had UNAM diplomas in Computer Science. Only 2 had resident alien paperwork; 1 H1B and one was being sponsored for citizenship. The others had expired student visas. These may be the only 5 mexican programmers in the US, but I interviewed them and h

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Paul Ihrig
i am un-employed and armed with a titanium spork. just trying to add to the conversation. sry, will go away now. -marvin On 5/7/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a lot of unemployed and armed men all at once might be a problem. ~

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
I don't believe it. > What do you mean? You don't see them, or you think they are crazy? I > guess you have to work for a company that was a member of the Hispanic > Chamber of Commerce. > > > I keep hearing stuff like this and thinking ... these Mexicans do > not > > inhabit the same real

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
You know the great unwashed, if a celebrity said it, it had to be fact. > Two words, Rosie O'Donnell > > She claims Bush knew about it, I think I even heard she claimed he had > something to do with it. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent:

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
And can you provide those numbers? Maybe on the wacko, religious side of the republican party. Not all republicans live in Kansas. >Mind you 8 out of 10 republicans believe in creationism. That says a lot. ~| Macromedia ColdFu

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Really, universities and tech schools in Latin America don't teach programming? >You are talking about a skill set that doesn't exist in these countries. > Remember the quota of H1B visa applications was reached in a single day this year. >They those types of people existed and wanted to come h

Need book files

2007-05-07 Thread Bruce Sorge
I have Adobe FLEX 2: Training from the Source but I cannot find the accompanying CD. I suspect I left it at my former gig. So, does anyone have this book and more importantly the files on the CD that you can send to me? If so, you can do it off-list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Bruce ~~~

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Illegal is illegal. They came as students and were fradulently still here. They obviously have no respect for the law, they broke it to stay here. What is to stop a programmer from crossing the border illegally? >This is a little different also. People that came to school here had to go >t

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
What do you mean? You don't see them, or you think they are crazy? I guess you have to work for a company that was a member of the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. > I keep hearing stuff like this and thinking ... these Mexicans do not > inhabit the same reality that I do. > ~

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Larry Lyons
Mind you 8 out of 10 republicans believe in creationism. That says a lot. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archi

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
2 are, but they are here legally. The others, I have no idea. I wouldn't hire them and called INS when they approached me for a job in 2003. I know the left New Orleans, but don't know for where. >Are they paying taxes? ~| C

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
This is a little different also. People that came to school here had to go through a process and were allowed to come in. That is different than a van filled with 23 programmers sneaking across the border in the middle of the night. > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAI

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Two words, Rosie O'Donnell She claims Bush knew about it, I think I even heard she claimed he had something to do with it. > -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:09 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: 35% of Democrats > > Most

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Are they paying taxes? > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 4:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as > Immigrants) > > Would they? > > I know 5 Mexican programmers who

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
You are talking about a skill set that doesn't exist in these countries. They those types of people existed and wanted to come here, then they would take the legal road, and apply to a visa. Those that don't would have a hard time getting a job because people don't pay for that type of labor in c

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
I keep hearing stuff like this and thinking ... these Mexicans do not inhabit the same reality that I do. > Would they? > > I know 5 Mexican programmers who left Mexico after graduating from > UMAN to take jobs here in the US because they had no decent jobs there. > Three are here on expir

Hotmail and Web 2.0

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
This is an interesting article on Hotmail and MS move away from Web 2.0. It seems that the users didn't care for the slick interface, they just wanted to read their email and go on. http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6181819.html ~~

Re: Saudi strip

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
I'm assuming webcams are involved -- there was one in the illustration to the article. I'm also assuming a fundamentalist Muslim might be a bit upset about that. >No one knows you are a burka-wearing Muslim on the Internet. > >On 5/7/07, Dana wrote: > > > >-- >--- >Robert Munn >www

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
I find it a bit hard to believe this administration knew anything, starting with the idea that having a lot of unemployed and armed men all at once might be a problem. >I would also debate what does the word "know" mean in this question. > >I do not believe that anybody in this administration k

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Would they? I know 5 Mexican programmers who left Mexico after graduating from UMAN to take jobs here in the US because they had no decent jobs there. Three are here on expired student visas. >If they were programmers then they still be in their home country and we'd >be outsourcing to them

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Dana Tierney
Yep. The liberal media is as liberal as those corporations that own them. >Oh stop. The Democrats have the entire media establishment except for the >WSJ and Fox News on their side, including television and movie production. >That's how these things get perpetuated. > >On 5/7/07, Zaphod Beeblebro

RE: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Skinner
I would also debate what does the word "know" mean in this question. I do not believe that anybody in this administration knew the exact date, target, and participants of the 9/11 attack and did nothing for whatever reason. But I also do not believe there was NO knowledge that something big was i

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
I'm asking what if it were skilled laborers coming across in droves? Like what happened in Miami when Batista fell. Programmers don't require licenses. They just need to present proof of skills. Doctors and lawyers and other licensed skills are different, but what about those unlicensed skil

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
If they were programmers then they still be in their home country and we'd be outsourcing to them also. > -Original Message- > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Step out from behind your sense of superiority and think about illigal > immigration. What would have happened

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
My experience is that most voters don't see how the world works. They eiither embrace of fear the new world order, not realizing that is just a wrestling team name. They warp thier perception of reality around that. We see this phenomenom in Louisiana every election. I give you Willima "Cold

Re: Saudi strip

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
No one knows you are a burka-wearing Muslim on the Internet. On 5/7/07, Dana wrote: > > that gives new meaning to the term living dangerously. > > On 5/7/07, Michael D wrote: > > This is a Lebanese report on Saudi women stripping on internet chat > channels. It speaks of the admiration they get fr

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
Oh stop. The Democrats have the entire media establishment except for the WSJ and Fox News on their side, including television and movie production. That's how these things get perpetuated. On 5/7/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I think it's a projection of the continuous lies being fed to the >

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
> What would have happened to us if all of these illegals were > programmers instead of construction and agricultural workers? Are you serious? I mean really. you're seriously asking us to consider this from the angle of skilled vs unskilled labor? Your argument won't hold up past the first bar

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Munn
Mostly it tells you that younger voters skew Democratic, and they are totally ignorant of how the world actually works. On 5/7/07, Russel wrote: > > > http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance > > 22% Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 Att

Re: 35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I think it's a projection of the continuous lies being fed to the public by the administration. e.g. "They lied about the wmd, they lied about the US attornies, they lied about the true cost of the war, why wouldn't they lie about knowing about the attacks beforehand" If the administration would

35% of Democrats

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance 22% Believe Bush Knew About 9/11 Attacks in Advance Democrats in America are evenly divided on the question of whether George W. Bush knew about the 9/11 terrorist attacks in advance. Thirt

Re: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
Step out from behind your sense of superiority and think about illigal immigration. What would have happened to us if all of these illegals were programmers instead of construction and agricultural workers? >"Have we had enough of the B.S. yet?" > >Yup, and this article is right on top of the p

RE: Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Ian Skinner
"Have we had enough of the B.S. yet?" Yup, and this article is right on top of the pile. It didn't take three paragraphs before this author was contradicting himself. I started to point out the details, but <<>> I can't bring myself to go to the trouble. Confidentiality Notice: This message i

Invasion USA - 2007 Or Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants)

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
http://louisianaconservative.com/?p=108 Illegal Aliens are NOT the Same as Immigrants Tomorrow is May Day 2007 for the National Immigrant Solidarity Network. That means tomorrow, hundreds of thousands of “immigrants rights” groups are going to be protesting in the streets of major U.S. cit

Re: They look like a bunch of pink seals to me

2007-05-07 Thread Russel Madere
What a thought for right after lunch. I do remember last time I sunbathed by the Gulf of Mexico there were 20 people splashing me with salt water and they tried to drag me into the water. I never could figure out why. They did say something about beaching myself or something. I don't know.

Re: They look like a bunch of pink seals to me

2007-05-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
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They look like a bunch of pink seals to me

2007-05-07 Thread Rick Root
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Re: Adobe loves ColdFusion

2007-05-07 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> > Tim Buntel - Scorpio (webDU 2007) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wtz-whjMyE > > Extra Scorpio Zing! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV_4xuqGLTs&NR=1 I'm glad I didn't send those to my boss... he just approved us using CF as our primary "large project" base. ~

RE: Should Virtual Rape Be Illegal?

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
There is another question, when dealing with adults, did that person do everything they could from preventing the mental harm being done? Is it even a question for our courts? Should it be dealt with there? I think there is a difference when you are dealing with minors, but I think the parent is

Re: Adobe loves ColdFusion

2007-05-07 Thread William Bowen
All right, it's not Jessica ALba, but it is pretty funny... Extra Scorpio Zing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV_4xuqGLTs&NR=1 On 5/6/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Watch this. Watch it twice as you will not believe you saw it the first time. > It makes me think that Adobe

Re: Should Virtual Rape Be Illegal?

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > Second life isn't life, I'm not really certain how somebody could be raped > to begin with. Rape isn't just thoughts or ideas, it is the physical action. > That's the question! Why isn't it life? For example, on an internet chat room should it be legal to have "chats3x" with a mi

RE: Adobe loves ColdFusion

2007-05-07 Thread Scott Stewart
Y'know, as goofy as that is we sure will remember it. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 7241 Jillspring Ct. Springfield, Va. 22152 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com -Original Message- From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:13 AM To:

Re: Adobe loves ColdFusion

2007-05-07 Thread Tony
scorpio :) tw On 5/7/07, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the new CF version is called Scorpion? > > > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIA’s for your business. Upgrade now http:/

RE: Should Virtual Rape Be Illegal?

2007-05-07 Thread Nick McClure
Uh, can't they just you know leave? Sign off? Something? Second life isn't life, I'm not really certain how somebody could be raped to begin with. Rape isn't just thoughts or ideas, it is the physical action. If somebody wants to do something then they need to enact some sort of way to work this

Re: Adobe loves ColdFusion

2007-05-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
So the new CF version is called Scorpion? ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing dashboard RIA’s for your business. Upgrade now http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2?sdid=RVJT Archive: http://www.house

Re: Adobe loves ColdFusion

2007-05-07 Thread Rick Root
wow, I wonder if we'll see that presented at our user group meeting next monday ;) Rick On 5/7/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Watch this. Watch it twice as you will not believe you saw it the first time. > It makes me think that Adobe has a drug policy that is a bit different

Re: Should Virtual Rape Be Illegal?

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
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Should Virtual Rape Be Illegal?

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
This is fascinating ... Last month, two Belgian publications reported that the Brussels police have begun an investigation into a citizen's allegations of rape -- in Second Life. I am half convinced that the tantalizingly brief story, printed in De Morgen and Het Laatste Nieuws, is a hoax or an A

When in France ... LEARN FRENCH!

2007-05-07 Thread Gruss Gott
The NYTimes is reporting that the tough-talking conservative candidate Nicolas Sarkozy has won election as the president of France. His opponent, Socialist Party candidate Ségolène Royal, the first woman to get as far as the runoff in a presidential contest in France, has conceded defeat. The vote

Re: Saudi strip

2007-05-07 Thread Dana
that gives new meaning to the term living dangerously. On 5/7/07, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a Lebanese report on Saudi women stripping on internet chat channels. > It speaks of the admiration they get from their viewers rather than their > husbands. I fear for one of

Saudi strip

2007-05-07 Thread Michael Dinowitz
This is a Lebanese report on Saudi women stripping on internet chat channels. It speaks of the admiration they get from their viewers rather than their husbands. I fear for one of these women if they're ever caught as they execute people for far lesser 'offenses'. Of course, anyone who identifie