Re: bailout politics analysis

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
I know you wrote something, but all I see is blah blah blah. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Gruss wrote: RoMunn wrote: craft a new bill. Task completed, he figured he could go to the debate. Or you're telling yourself narratives that will distract you from the reality of voting twice

Re: bailout politics analysis

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
Not in the least. McCain nuked the bill because he thought it sucked. House Republicans didn't like the bill, and once they started hearing from the public how much they hated the bill, that was it. Time to nuke the bill and start over. I want to see something passed, because I am very concerned

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To The Poor House

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
ROTFL that is too funny I didn't even think about that. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Judah wrote: Folks, the the Democratic Party couldn't come up with a better candidate than Al Gore in 2000 or John Kerry in 2004. I may be a hick, but those guys are super-sized turds, and Karl

Re: Happy Friday!

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
In the words of Ren and Stimpy, Happy Happy, Joy Joy. I hope everyone had a good night tonight. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Erika L. wrote: Happy happy friday to you too W00twoo hoo! /raises glass in a toast On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM, denstar wrote: No nice

Re: Bruce, your care package is on its way!

2008-09-27 Thread Bruce Sorge
Thanks Adam. This is truely appreciated. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Adam Churvis wrote: Just got back from the post office. Customs form checked and stamped by the post office clerk and affixed, and priority postage will get it to you ASAP. Look for a 43-lb Kraft brown box that's

Re: Bruce Sorge, please reply

2008-09-27 Thread Bruce Sorge
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Re: The Paulson plan is dead, apparently

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
based on what I am hearing I would wait jst a little. Something about corrections usually involve 29% or so loss of value and we are at 20%. The way things are going though, that should not take long. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez - I took

Re: Ho. Ly. Fnuk.

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
Personally I don't think it is normal or right but I also think it has nothing to do with governing. Having sex with an intern and lying about it = a problem. Getting intelligence you don't like and lying about it = a HUGE problem. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM, morgan l [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: We just wanted to choose a really large number...

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
oh yeah, the house I was going to buy turned out like thatWe moved in and everything then the payments were going to be like 50% more than we discussed. I declined to sign the sales contract and they got pretty nasty about it, but that's life in the big city. The current place is a much

Re: Need some advice on serioulsy depressed friend

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
how it would go ... not sure about Australia. Here you show up at an emergency room, the emergency room of a psychiatric hospital for preference, though any ER will do, and explain that you are thinking of hurting yourself, or hearing voices, or whatever the issue may be. There would be a number

Re: Ho. Ly. Fnuk.

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: Personally I don't think it is normal or right but I also think it has nothing to do with governing. Having sex with an intern and lying about it = a problem. Getting intelligence you don't like and lying about it = a HUGE problem. Why is publicly lying about sex with an intern

Re: We just wanted to choose a really large number...

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: what's the actual problem? When you strip off the rhetoric and conventional wisdom, it seems to me that the root of the problem is that people do not have money to spend, That's not the problem - yet. Unemployment is at 6.1% which is the highest in a decade but not anything _by

Re: McCain Ad Claims He Won Debate

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: They have both produced ads like that already. Simple time constraints dictate that they do things in advance. I wonder if the ad is still out there? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

Re: bailout politics analysis

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: Not in the least. McCain nuked the bill because he thought it sucked. Or he decided to be a dick because he wanted people to think he was doing something which, from what I've read, is not the case. ~| Adobe®

Rice: We Discussed Torture

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnn3rieFfq8 Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has admitted for the first time that she led high-level discussions beginning in 2002 with other senior Bush administration officials about subjecting suspected al-Qaeda terrorists detained at military prisons to the

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
TheCrow wrote: How did everyone think that the debate went tonight? I've been flipping channels since the debates and ole gaffe Biden is all over the place but I've not seen Palin at all. What's the deal? ~| Adobe®

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
Biden has higher expectations On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Gruss wrote: TheCrow wrote: How did everyone think that the debate went tonight? I've been flipping channels since the debates and ole gaffe Biden is all over the place but I've not seen Palin at all. What's the deal?

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
did you hear Palin's comments on the bailout? flipping channels since the debates and ole gaffe Biden is all over the place but I've not seen Palin at all. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
RoMunn wrote: Biden has higher expectations LOL, yeah, that has become the motto of the Republican party huh? Republicans: don't expect much. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
Meanwhile, the Democrats have can't seem to learn how to manage expectations. They consistently over-promise and under-deliver. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Gruss wrote: RoMunn wrote: Biden has higher expectations LOL, yeah, that has become the motto of the Republican party huh?

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
you keep telling yourself that. /me walks away On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, the Democrats have can't seem to learn how to manage expectations. They consistently over-promise and under-deliver. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Gruss

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Beth In Alaska
Meanwhile, the Democrats have can't seem to learn how to manage expectations. They consistently over-promise and under-deliver. At least they try. Bush just lies. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Tony
it put me to sleep. im tired of politics now. i just want it to be over and someone get elected. anyway, what i did see, was that an old white boy was scared to address the young intelligent well-spoken black man, and he was a pussy... really... he wouldnt talk to him... WTF anyway, mccain is a

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Paul Ihrig
agreed was a snoozer. B was cool and colected, other then the time he caled mccain JIM?? =] they didnt address how they would change the finacial situation they didnt discuss my greatest concern, the patriot act they just farted arouind crap that was already know. like they agreed befor hand not

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Vivec
Hmm... One presidential candidate shoots off a ridiculous, unworkable and unrealistic answer to a question, from the hip. The other pauses, considers, and gives a reasoned, rational and practical response. Which Presidential Candidate response do you think will resonate the most with the

Re: COOL! Next Vacation

2008-09-27 Thread Vivec
Dubai is just utterly fantastic. They have created a totally magical place that just defies description. The World, that single tall hotel with the atrium that seems to go all the way to heaven...it's amazing. Before Dubai, you would only see these things in sets for Fantasy and Sci-fi films.

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
yeah really... total spending freeze except for national security?? omg :) Want to bet that national security would include payments to contractors? On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... One presidential candidate shoots off a ridiculous, unworkable and

Re: head of skate

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
hmmm /me contemplates a new American curse based on an old Chinese one: May you live in a great time for satire. Dana On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah yeah.that's funny shite. This may be a shitty year for our economy and our politics, but it's

Re: COOL! Next Vacation

2008-09-27 Thread Paul Ihrig
OR on the EverLand Ranch Coincidence? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive:

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Paul Ihrig
yeah that was a little fncked... so he will only spend money on the military Vetrerans... hmmm i love our gi's, but thats some bullshit right there. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Vivec
*There is not a liberal America and a conservative America - there is the United States of America. There is not a black America and a white America and latino America and asian America - there's the United States of America. * -Obama Presidential candidate giving timeless quotes. What's

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Gel wrote: Which Presidential Candidate response do you think will resonate the most with the American people? Well, we'll see. Can we actually turn the corner and do the right thing? I dunno. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

Re: I hate to be the one to do it...but

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
I am ok with spending money on both of those categories, but I need some specifics, especially on what is mean by national security. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah that was a little fncked... so he will only spend money on the military Vetrerans...

RE: Nat'l Review: Palin Should Bow Out

2008-09-27 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
I'd agree.. I really don't care what party wins cause we will still get screwed somehow but I thought from day one he picked her to try and get Clinton's supporters on his side when she lost to Obama.. I think if Obama announced a deal that she would be in his cabinet he'd be a shoe in..

Re: Nat'l Review: Palin Should Bow Out

2008-09-27 Thread Robert Munn
What about the rumors swirling around on the Internet that Biden will drop out after th VP debates and Obama will name Hillary as VP? On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Scott wrote: I'd agree.. I really don't care what party wins cause we will still get screwed somehow but I thought from day

Best Daily Show Yet

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
http://www.hulu.com/watch/36718/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-thu-sep-25-2008 The political analysis is getting to be the best on TV, and this show end-to-end nails everything last week. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Re: Nat'l Review: Palin Should Bow Out

2008-09-27 Thread Dana
I listened to what she had to say about the bailout. Totally incoherent. Health care reform? Irrelevant. One of the commentators said you know what, I am a college professor and that sounds exactly like a freshman who has not done any of the reading trying to get through a test by emitting random

Re: Nat'l Review: Palin Should Bow Out

2008-09-27 Thread William Bowen
What about the rumors swirling around on the Internet that Biden will drop out after th VP debates and Obama will name Hillary as VP? what about them? They're rumors. -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher

One of the great ones is gone...

2008-09-27 Thread William Bowen
RIP Paul Newman. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE48Q25W20080927?feedType=RSSfeedName=topNews -- will If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable. - Carrie Fisher ~|

RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread Crow T. Robot
Man, what a great guy...fantastic actor, superb racecar driver/owner, and philanthropist. Kind of ironic that he dies of cancer. Where were you on that one, Karma? Weird - I watched Slap Shot last weekend, and saw Cool Hand Luke twice this week when it was on Mojo... RIP, my friend. You were

RE: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread Adam Churvis
I just saw The Verdict again a couple of days ago. I remember an interview many years ago when he was at the height of his enthusiasm for racing, and he was asked what he thought were the most beautiful things he'd ever experienced. One of them was The sound of a Cosworth racing engine. I just

Re: Nat'l Review: Palin Should Bow Out

2008-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
Dana wrote: As a woman, I cringe, to be honest. Yeah, but she's babe. And that's what strikeaffirmative action/strike equality is all about: promoting someone beyond their abilities because of a superficial quality. Personally I don't think anything worse could happen for women's equality

Re: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread Paul Ihrig
is he the blond fella? kinda laid back ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive:

Re: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread Erika L. Walker
/me slaps paul with the cast iron muffin pan ... Very sad news. :( Definitely one of my favorite celebrities of all time. :( On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is he the blond fella? kinda laid back

RE: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread CyberAngel
Yes very sad news. I saw Road to Redemption about 3 or 4 times now, he played a magnificent role in that movie. His contributions back to society, came from a very big heart. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 28 September 2008 11:12 AM

RE: UML tutorial online?

2008-09-27 Thread Scott Raley -ITC
I'm getting ready to take UML through elearning with TElelogic. If I get any clip notes or anything electronic I can send you I will. I haven't received the login to my package yet. -Original Message- From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:18 PM

so, bailout alternative???

2008-09-27 Thread Beth In Alaska
Dave Ramsey on a bailout alternative - please comment. How We Can Clean Up A Lot of the Economic Problems Remember Enron, WorldCom, Adelphia, and other companies had artificially put assets on the books? They'd say something was worth $10M when they bought it, but eventually it decreased in

RE: Becoming a better, well-rounded internet person ...

2008-09-27 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Becoming a better, well-rounded internet person ... I know most of you code and don't care for much else - but for those interested in stepping

RE: One of the great ones is gone...

2008-09-27 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:41 PM To: cf-community Subject: One of the great ones is gone... RIP Paul Newman. http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE48Q25W20080927?feedType=R SSfeedName=topNews In

Walmart's wierd at night.

2008-09-27 Thread Jim Davis
As per usual since our massive reorg at the office I've been working all weekend. A few hours ago my router seemed to crap the bed... kept shutting down/rebooting every 30 seconds or so. So after some frustrating debugging (it's hard to debug a device that's only active for 20 seconds at a time)