Re: competition as a health care model

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
I'm not sure I agree. What if we took care of chronic conditions before they degenerated into something ugly and life-threatening? It might actually be cheaper than the current incredibly expensive system. Sure, the population is getting older, but this affects health care no more than say Social

Re: competition as a health care model

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Dana wrote: I'm not sure I agree. What if we took care of chronic conditions before they degenerated into something ugly and life-threatening? It might actually be cheaper than the current incredibly expensive system. We keep coming up with fancy new

Re: they ought to hire the guy

2009-08-03 Thread Maureen
If he has Asperger's Syndrome, he's not dumb. As for modem speed, he did this in 2002, so 56K was not old tech then. As for how bad the security is. Bad. Real bad. And adding the CyberCzar is only going to make it worse as the minions scramble to install the latest and greatest toys with no

Re: they ought to hire the guy

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
well -- depends on whether they get someone who has a clue. The problem is that the people who have a clue don't want the job, as best I can tell. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: If he has Asperger's Syndrome, he's not dumb. As for modem speed, he did

Re: What a stupid interview question

2009-08-03 Thread Maureen
And God said, I will give you truth', and the devil said I will organize it and call it religion. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Jerry Johnsonjmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think organized is very, very generous. On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:48 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: What a stupid interview question

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
I like the concept of Bertram Russell's Celestial Teapot: -- If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to

Re: What a stupid interview question

2009-08-03 Thread G Money
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: Both of these concepts makes as much logical sense as a bearded old white guy in a robe floating on a cloud. No doubt...of courseI don't know of any religion that preaches anything about any old white guy in a robe

Re: they ought to hire the guy

2009-08-03 Thread Vivec
We don't even know how smart this guy is, as his 'hack' doesn't seem to have been very elaborate at all. It seems more like incompetence on the part of the US than anything else. Why it is so sad is that he's probably going to fall victim to the middle ages styled penal and justice system of the

Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Jacob
Master degree done. Cool. With my degree and $1, I can get a cup of coffe. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

Re: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Ray Champagne
Congrats! What in? On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Master degree done. Cool. With my degree and $1, I can get a cup of coffe. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with

RE: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stewart
Jacob, Congratulations.. !! You're buying right? :) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:05 PM To: cf-community

cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stewart
I managed to afford it this year.. who else is going? -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stroz
I shall be there - with bells onand not much else On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Scott Stewartsstwebwo...@bellsouth.net wrote: I managed to afford it this year.. who else is going? -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c)

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Cameron Childress
Yes. Tue-Sun. I will not be wearing bells. -Cameron On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Scott Stewartsstwebwo...@bellsouth.net wrote: I managed to afford it this year.. who else is going? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion

Re: they ought to hire the guy

2009-08-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Vivecgel21...@gmail.com wrote: Why it is so sad is that he's probably going to fall victim to the middle ages styled penal and justice system of the United States Off with his head! Don't be a hater...

Re: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Ras Tafari
Masters in Pr0n :D On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Jacobja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Master degree done.  Cool. With my degree and $1, I can get a cup of coffe. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with

RE: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Jacob
Information Systems -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:r...@raychampagne.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:16 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Time for a beer... Congrats! What in? On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Master

RE: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Jacob
MIS... Master of Input Systems -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 10:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Time for a beer... Masters in Pr0n :D On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Jacobja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Master

RE: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stewart
Why does that scare me...? I think I'm bringing my kilt.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 1:32 PM To: cf-community

Re: competition as a health care model

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
Ah, I see. I agree to a certain extent. Loss of choice is a real issue if we go to a single-payer system, but loss of choice is not the issue that is going to bankrupt us - demographics are. What choice do you have now. You either use the insurance provider's network or you pay through the

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
I managed to afford it this year.. who else is going? I'll be there. Staying in the resort hotel even. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
I shall be there - with bells onand not much else The image makes me want to wash my eyes out with lye. Do us a favor, unless they're extremely large, wear something more that just bells. ~| Want to reach the

Re: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
Master degree done. Cool. With my degree and $1, I can get a cup of coffe. Obviously the degree isn't in spelling. But regardless congratulations and welcome to the club. So when are you going for the PhD? larry ~| Want

RE: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stewart
Staying with the inlaws in Round Hill -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re:

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Bruce Sorge
Where is it and when? Larry Lyons wrote: The image makes me want to wash my eyes out with lye. Do us a favor, unless they're extremely large, wear something more that just bells. ~| Want to reach the

Re: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread Paul Ihrig
nice! and congrats. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:301365

Re: Windows 7 = blah

2009-08-03 Thread Vivec
Windows 7 vs XP and Vista charts here. It really is a lot better than Vista, and I would say it matches XP. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=22006page=2 2009/8/2 Larry Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com: Are you sure you're not taking about OSX? I mean aside from the DRM stuff that is the Mac.

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
Staying with the inlaws in Round Hill yeech. route 7 through leesburg during rush hour, not a nice drive. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists

Re: Windows 7 = blah

2009-08-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Vivecgel21...@gmail.com wrote: Windows 7 vs XP and Vista charts here. It really is a lot better than Vista, and I would say it matches XP. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=22006page=2 The time it takes an operating system to start up is not crucially important

RE: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stewart
Cheaper than a hotel... :) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: cfunited..

Re: Windows 7 = blah

2009-08-03 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I like the new name Camero. Is that in honor of the new Camaro? On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Vivecgel21...@gmail.com wrote: Windows 7 vs XP and Vista charts here. It really is a lot better than Vista, and I would say it matches XP.

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Bruce Sorge
Disregard my last. I was finally able to pull the site up. It starts on my birthday but I will still be in Iraq. Damn it. I wanted to go. Oh well. Maybe next year. Larry Lyons wrote: The image makes me want to wash my eyes out with lye. Do us a favor, unless they're extremely large,

RE: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stewart
We'll crack open a few for ya.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:26 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: cfunited..

Re: Windows 7 = blah

2009-08-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Zaphod Beeblebroxzaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote: I like the new name Camero.   Is that in honor of the new Camaro? List chopper eats my name sometimes. If I add some after my name I think it prevents chopping. -Cameron CHOPPER PREVENTE

windows os - reality - dilemma

2009-08-03 Thread Don L
So, I took the courage to have wiped out everything on a hard drive running xp pro from compaq bought zillions years ago (2001), and have it reformatted with recovery cd for laptop for want of its own recovery cd, so, as far as OS goes, it's a dead animal. Chatting with HP rep, found out, oh

Re: windows os - reality - dilemma

2009-08-03 Thread Maureen
Most new laptops will have Vista home premium because that is what the hardware vendors are installing but you could install multiple os on multiple partitions and have a testbed for all them. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Don Ldo...@yahoo.com wrote: So, I took the courage to have wiped out

Re: competition as a health care model

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Larry L wrote: What choice do you have now. You either use the insurance provider's network or you pay through the nose. Some choice. It would seem to me that a single payer system offers more choice, since all but a very small minority of doctors are a part

Re: windows os - reality - dilemma

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Don L do...@yahoo.com wrote: So, I took the courage to have wiped out everything on a hard drive running xp pro from compaq bought zillions years ago (2001), and have it reformatted with recovery cd for laptop for want of its own recovery cd, so, as far as OS

Re: Windows 7 = blah

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Windows 7 vs XP and Vista charts here. It really is a lot better than Vista, and I would say it matches XP. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=22006page=2 Windows 7 does not suck pig balls, ergo it is better than Vista.

Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
We're going to be driving down to play tourist in the DC area on the week before Labor day - the first week of Sept. We're going with my in-laws and have a two room suite booked at Quantico (nice thing about having an army retiree for a father-in-law). Looking at the map, there's a VRE station

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, C. Hatton wrote: It's going to be four adults and two kids (7 and 4) - our goal is to have an easy visit, going to the museums and/or zoo depending on weather and how we feel. Any suggestions? Will you have strollers for the kids? My vote is to minimize

wow, 27 million Americans on anti-depressants

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
worth nearly $10 billion in drugs sales: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03411375.htm ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive:

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM, C. Hatt It's going to be four adults and two kids (7 and 4) - our goal is to have an easy visit, going to the museums and/or zoo depending on weather and how we feel. Any suggestions? Will you have strollers for the kids? My vote is to minimize the stuff on

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
We're going to be driving down to play tourist in the DC area on the week before Labor day - the first week of Sept. We're going with my in-laws and have a two room suite booked at Quantico (nice thing about having an army retiree for a father-in-law). Looking at the map, there's a VRE station

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
Disregard my last. I was finally able to pull the site up. It starts on my birthday but I will still be in Iraq. Damn it. I wanted to go. Oh well. Maybe next year. There's alway's Max in California in October. ~| Want to

Re: cfunited.. who's going

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
Cheaper than a hotel... :) True at least though in my case the powers that be are springing for it. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
VRE is pretty bland, but it is a train. If I remember right it costs around $9 one way. There is a train museum in Maryland that has the first train in the US btw. Found it, the museum is in Ellicott City - Between Balitmore and DC: http://www.ecborail.org/

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Larry wrote: VRE is pretty bland, but it is a train. If I remember right it costs around $9 one way. There is a train museum in Maryland that has the first train in the US btw. Found it, the museum is in Ellicott City - Between Balitmore and DC:

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
the Zoo used to be awesome and probably still is ;) By the way, the Mall is not all that safe after dark. I know several people who were robbed there. Something to keep in mind. Capitol Hill is a also a good place to get in trouble, so don't stray too far from the government buildings. Kids

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Thanks for all the advice folks! I thought I had mentioned this before but guess I didn't elaborate - my wife and I both lived in Alexandria when we were in High School... actually, my dad worked on the Hill for quite some time. I used to take myself through the different museums when that was

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial after dark is all I am saying. For example. And if you are local you know what i mean about the Hill. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:53 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for all the advice folks! I

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial after dark is all I am saying. For example On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:53 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey chumph...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for all the advice folks! I thought I had mentioned this before but guess I didn't elaborate -

Re: wow, 27 million Americans on anti-depressants

2009-08-03 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Robert Munncfmuns...@gmail.com wrote: worth nearly $10 billion in drugs sales: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N03411375.htm Soon they will be adding them to the water supply. ~| Want

Re: wow, 27 million Americans on anti-depressants

2009-08-03 Thread Erika L. Rich
Quick! Go to your nearest doctor. Tell them you are depressed. He'll write you an RX quicker than he can get his little pad out. sigh And this is why I hate Pharma. I'm willing to bet a lot of money that a lot of those people don't need them. Hell I know a handful of poeple that take them just

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Scott Stroz
My favorite museum is here: http://www.nasm.si.edu/UdvarHazy/ Its located right next to Dulles and if you have even a passing interest in aviation, you will love it. My favorite displays: the Space Shuttle Enterprise, an SR-71 Blackbird and the Enola Gay. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, C.

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Sam
I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Danadana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial after dark is all I am saying. For example. And if you are local you know what i mean about the Hill.

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
I think it's Dana for knows the area well. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Danadana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: museums are safe -- I'd be careful about going to the Vietnam memorial

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Sam wrote: I think that's Dana for Black neighborhood. Dude, uncalled for. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
He's just being a jerk. It's actually rather white for DC, if we MUST think of it in terms of race -- all those senators and supreme court justices, yanno. But those million-dollar townhomes are sometimes within a couple of blocks of crack markets, housing projects and various other desperate

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Dana wrote: He's just being a jerk. It's actually rather white for DC, if we MUST think of it in terms of race -- all those senators and supreme court justices, yanno. But those million-dollar townhomes are sometimes within a couple of blocks of crack

Re: wow, 27 million Americans on anti-depressants

2009-08-03 Thread Maureen
Mostly they just want to sell Viagra and Prozac. And if either one worked, you wouldn't need the other. On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Erika L. Richelr...@ruwebby.com wrote: And this is why I hate Pharma. I'm willing to bet a lot of money that a lot of those people don't need them. Hell I

Re: Family Vacation Advise

2009-08-03 Thread Dana
I had a friend who lived next door ro an open air drug market in Langley Park (yeah I know it's not Capitol Hill but bear with me.) He actually felt safer -- the kids watched his house and were very courteous to him. Matter of fact, I can attest to the fact that when I would be helping some

Re: they ought to hire the guy

2009-08-03 Thread denstar
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Cameron Childresscamer...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Vivecgel21...@gmail.com wrote: Why it is so sad is that he's probably going to fall victim to the middle ages styled penal and justice system of the United States Off with his head!

Re: Time for a beer...

2009-08-03 Thread denstar
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Larry Lyonslarrycly...@gmail.com wrote: ... But regardless congratulations and welcome to the club. So when are you going for the PhD? Don't do it! A masters is bad enough! /they/ only hold power because... Ah crap. Never mind. Anyways, this Sammy's for