Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Maureen
The Torah is only part of the body of Hebrew scriptures. The entire work is called the Tanakh, or Hebrew Bible, and consists of what is commonly referred to in Christian theology as the Old Testament. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanakh On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > >

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2010-05-11 Thread Brian Thornton
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Re: anyone read The Oatmeal?

2010-05-11 Thread morchella
i just saw this: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling printing in AM, may learn some thing new by the PM On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Medic wrote: > > Ya, that site is awesome. I loved this line: "You're like a webmaster from > the 1990's except you can't even code HTML." > > On Tue, Ma

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
IANAD, but I was diagnosed with sleep apnea about 6 years ago. I used the machine for about 1 year before I finally got fed up with it. I started using a 'bit' that would hold my lower jaw forward (I have a slight overbite). Anyway, that cleared up my apnea just as well as the CPAP did. My

Re: Coalition government seizes the reins in Britain!

2010-05-11 Thread Dana
when was the last Tory government? Was it Thatcher? baby and bathwater come to mind. Maybe not though, not paying close enough attention to have a considered opinion. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > A Tory government with the Lib-ems holding the balance of power. > Unl

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Dana
133, wow. Mine was described as very severe at 55. Amazed you didn't drive into anything. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > I'm sorry for your brother's condition, but let me offer a > (admittedly-anecdotal but personal) counter-point. > > First, I have insurance, it is

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Dana
ok and the results from mine took over a month. It also took over six months to get in there. Access varies even in the US, and by the way that was with the coverage. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Sam wrote: > > Sorry to here that and best wishes to a speedy recovery. > > My wife needed a sle

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Dana
I remember talking about it here and being told that I was out of my mind and I had nothing to worry about if I was not a terrorist. What if i just don't think peopple need to hear my phone calls to my mother in Canada? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "And why weren't t

Re: Coalition government seizes the reins in Britain!

2010-05-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A Tory government with the Lib-ems holding the balance of power. Unless Cameron does some major compromising I won't give this government a week beyond their tabling their first budget. What the Liberal Democrats have been demanding, proportional representation etc the Tories are strongly against

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
he was not declared an enemy combatant. moreover he was captured on US soil so different rules apply. Or so the law states. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Sam wrote: > > The constitution doesn't apply to non citizen enemy combatants. If it > did we'd have to Mirandize and gather evidence on th

Re: Coalition government seizes the reins in Britain!

2010-05-11 Thread Tony
yea, I know Sent from my iPhone... don't hate On May 11, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Dana wrote: > > it always *sounds* good. > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Tony wrote: >> >> sounds good, I think >> >> Sent from my iPhone... don't hate >> >> On May 11, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Vivec wrote: >> >>> >>> A

Re: Coalition government seizes the reins in Britain!

2010-05-11 Thread Dana
it always *sounds* good. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Tony wrote: > > sounds good, I think > > Sent from my iPhone... don't hate > > On May 11, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> A Coalition government made up of the Conservatives and Liberal >> Democrats >> has ascended to power in Bri

Re: Coalition government seizes the reins in Britain!

2010-05-11 Thread Tony
sounds good, I think Sent from my iPhone... don't hate On May 11, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Vivec wrote: > > A Coalition government made up of the Conservatives and Liberal > Democrats > has ascended to power in Britain. > David Cameron of the Conservative party is the Prime Minister and > Clegg w

Coalition government seizes the reins in Britain!

2010-05-11 Thread Vivec
A Coalition government made up of the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats has ascended to power in Britain. David Cameron of the Conservative party is the Prime Minister and Clegg will be offered as many as 5 Cabinet posts. David Cameron had this to say in his Acceptance speech: "In terms of the

Re: car troubles

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
All this time I thought you were the guy with the co logo tattooed on his leg. Now I don't know who you are. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > as for my hidden identity...hmmm...guess I need a new moniker nowmaybe > I'll go with Aphod Eebblebrox > ~

Re: car troubles

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
Actually I think Aphod Edelbrock (to go along with the automotive theme) has a bit of a ring to it. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > just finished. Car doesn't make noise anymore! Took about 30 minutes to > get it all put back toget

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
I agree On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:16 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Personally I don't think that the constitution was clear enough on what > constituted a formal declaration of war. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http:

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Kris Sisk
>If they ignore you, you will go free when it is time to go to court and you >will become rich and they will become unemployed. > That's the way it SHOULD work. Unfortunately our justice system is so broken that I don't think it would work out quite that way. More likely if they ignore you you'

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
Sorry to here that and best wishes to a speedy recovery. My wife needed a sleep test for some reason last year and she scheduled it a week after her doctor suggested it. The results came back in a few days. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > I'm sorry for your brother's

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
The constitution doesn't apply to non citizen enemy combatants. If it did we'd have to Mirandize and gather evidence on the battlefields. What if we were invaded? You think that's a criminal matter? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > And isn't that what happened? > > And

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
"Declaration of War The expulsion of American vessels from the Mediterranean during the War of 1812 by the British navy further emboldened the pirate nations in their attacks on US flagged vessels. Umar ben Muhammad, Dey of Algiers, the "Omar Bashaw" of the 1815 treaty, expelled the US consul gen

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Both sides do it man. Neither is worth a damn anymore. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category And isn't that what happened? And so what are the right wingnuts

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
That was a military engagements authorized by Congress On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:06 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Beyond that one of the first declared wars the US ever fought was against > the Barbary Pirates and they weren't a nation state. > ~~~

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And isn't that what happened? And so what are the right wingnuts complaining about then? They're always bitching about the constitution, yet when the current government follows its provisions they whine about it. In contrast when the shrubbery decided to try and tear up the constitution there was

Re: car troubles

2010-05-11 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just finished. Car doesn't make noise anymore! Took about 30 minutes to get it all put back together. I think you're right, it's simple since this is a two wheel drive vehicle. as for my hidden identity...hmmm...guess I need a new moniker nowmaybe I'll go with Aphod Eebblebrox On May

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
In Sam's mind this would have taken you four years if you lived in Canada. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:29 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > I'm sorry for your brother's condition, but let me offer a > (admittedly-anecdotal but personal) counter-point. > > First, I have insurance, it is very good insura

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread William Bowen
I'm sorry for your brother's condition, but let me offer a (admittedly-anecdotal but personal) counter-point. First, I have insurance, it is very good insurance, it is very expensive insurance. Everything I will speak about below is completely covered by my insurance. So, my wife tells me that s

Re: anyone read The Oatmeal?

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
Ya, that site is awesome. I loved this line: "You're like a webmaster from the 1990's except you can't even code HTML." On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Love this guy's sense of humor: > > http://theoatmeal.com/comics/websites_stop > > > ~~

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Not the same thing. A declaration of war gives broad powers, not just military, but economic and industrial as well. These haven't been done. There has been no formal declaration of war sam. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:54 PM

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah I don’t remember hearing that one before. I know there was an authorization for the use of force, which is several steps below an actually declaration of war. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM To: cf-c

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
The congress critters from WW 2 have continued to give up their powers, granting them to the executive, and this has become a major problem now. I mean look at the sheer number of executive orders, all of which carry the weight of law, without legislative or judicial oversight. -Original Mes

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah got to try him. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category In the air over Detroit... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Well you didn't phrase it that way silly. Like I said I was correcting the logical flaw in the sentence as written. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:51 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Extra national groups and organizations are counted. Also the Taliban could be looked at as the deposed government of Afghanistan. Beyond that one of the first declared wars the US ever fought was against the Barbary Pirates and they weren't a nation state. -Original Message- From: Eric

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Yup, agreed. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:50 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category But he was caught on US soil (or US Airspace) which puts him in the jurisdiction of the US, which acc

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
No, I was being serious. Quite. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category He was being rhetorical On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > In US airspace on

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
No two ways about it then. Mirandize, investigate and try. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category In US airspace on an American flagged aircraft. According to b

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes...hence the "was conservative"... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:55 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category You do realize he's dead and no longer runs things? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Eric Rober

anyone read The Oatmeal?

2010-05-11 Thread Ray Champagne
Love this guy's sense of humor: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/websites_stop ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
AKA the Global War on Terror by NATO On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > And what is the Act of War on Terror anyway? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-An

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
It was a declaration to use military force against a sovereign nation On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Um...no...that is not a declaration of war...that was handing over their > power to control the president's actions with our troops, which is strictly > limited.  There

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
You do realize he's dead and no longer runs things? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Ummm...the Annenberg project board is populated by people who all voted for > McCain...not Obama.  Walter Annenberg, the founder, was very conservative > and was appointed to offices by

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Kris Sisk
>I have no problem with them saying a personal prayer...they can do that >before they leave for work or when they park their car before they go into >their offices. Just not on my dime... Honestly I'm more worried about the fact that most of them hardly ever show up for votes unless it's a majo

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
How much was the bill for the praying? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Every year on April 15th for the past 25 years or so... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
What some people refer to as the Old Testament we call the Hebrew bible which consist of many parts. Not just the Torah. If I was talking about just the Torah I would have said. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > The Tanakh is actually several books in one...the Torah is t

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Ummm...the Annenberg project board is populated by people who all voted for McCain...not Obama. Walter Annenberg, the founder, was very conservative and was appointed to offices by both Nixon and Reagan. While he was a champion of Public Television, he was hardly a liberal. >From Wikipedia...

Re: paypal - trying to understand the flow

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
I'm not sure if you are doing anything wrong, but it sounds like you are hopping back and forth to and from paypal a little too much. If it were me I don't think I'd have them confirm making a payment, then come back to your site to review their order then go back to paypal to actually make a paym

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Well, he was both rhetorically and actually in US territory... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category He was being rhetorical On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Larry C. Lyon

Re: car troubles

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
Well my experience is with Subarus, which the Hayne's manual specifically states "Have a professional do this repair." Perhaps it's because of the AWD that they advise that? Hayne's is pretty good at not telling you to go to the mechanic if there's any reasonable expectation you could do it yourse

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Um...no...that is not a declaration of war...that was handing over their power to control the president's actions with our troops, which is strictly limited. There was no declaration of war. Last declared war was WWII. The rest, as LRS aptly pointed out, have been "police and executive actions"

RE: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
See...typical conservative bullshit...mine a real yours are just whispers... Both Larry and I talked about several examples...not just one person. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:05 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Shocker: Major

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
In the air over Detroit... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:12 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Well fuck, shoot him then. I don't know. Where was he grabbed? In or out of the states? -Origi

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Every year on April 15th for the past 25 years or so... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:12 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments When did they start billing you? O

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
The Tanakh is actually several books in one...the Torah is the actual holy scripture part...hence the reason they parade around the Torah and use it to bless, not the Tanakh or the Talmud or any of the other books that are mostly commentaries on the Torah... The old Testament is a modified versio

RE: car troubles

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Back before they turned cars into computers on wheels, I used to do 90% of the maintenance...even rebuilt an engine once. Eric -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:marlon.mo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:59 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: car troubles wel

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
And what is the Act of War on Terror anyway? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category Nope, sorry. No war was or has been declared since WW2, swing and a miss. Try agai

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
I am not sure I would agree that we have territories that don't have full legal rights in regards to criminal actions. They may not have a seat in congress and stuff like that, but they have the full protection of the rights listed in the constitution when one of their people breaks the law or is

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
But he was caught on US soil (or US Airspace) which puts him in the jurisdiction of the US, which according to the constitution, makes him subject to the laws of the US and rights granted by the Constitution. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
Well your anecdote opposes my own opinions about health care so I'm certainly more likely to comment on yours. Plus Larry's anecdote didn't arrive until after I commented...so :P On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Sam wrote: > > They are both throwing out anecdotal wispers while I have a ca

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Those saboteurs and spies are still part of a country (or alliance with a country) or a military. What country is Al Queda from? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:59 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
No...it is it... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments The Torah is a part of the Hebrew Bible. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm not so worried about her being elected. If she were I would not be surprised if she would be so politically damaged that she would be helpless in office. What worries me is that she could become a significant power broker for the republicans, turning it more into a mouthpiece for the fundy, d

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Vivec wrote: > "According to Palin, the recent backlash against the National Day of > Prayer > is > proof that some people are trying to enact a "fundamental transformation of > Amer

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
FactCheck.org - A Project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center AKA proud parents of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. How surprising someone would suspect bias. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:52 PM, morgan l wrote: > > I stand corrected, though not at all surprised. > ~

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
He was being rhetorical On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > In US airspace on an American flagged aircraft. According to bot US > and International Law that makes it in US territory. > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> >> Well fuck, shoot him then. >>

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In US airspace on an American flagged aircraft. According to bot US and International Law that makes it in US territory. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:12 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Well fuck, shoot him then. > > I don't know.  Where was he grabbed?  In or out of the states? > > -Original Message--

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"And why weren't there Tea Parties when the *cough*illegal*cough* wiretapping and crap was going down? That's when we should have been in the streets with torches." There were people protesting. The media gave them a lot of attention, though no one else did. "That Hightower guy seemed pretty

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
And yet you went and fought anyway. Congress does not need to declare to make it so. BTW, since congress voted for military action against Iraq that is considered a declaration of war. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 1:10 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Nope, sorry. > > No war was or has been declared since

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
".who gives a flying flip if he talks to the media." The media apparently. Also, neo-con Keith Olbermann thinks so and not just issues of giving interviews. He can't believe ho intolerable the Obama administration's conduct in the area of transparency and civil liberties has increasingly becom

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Well fuck, shoot him then. I don't know. Where was he grabbed? In or out of the states? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category We're discussing the underwear bomber who wa

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
We have police and executive actions supported by treasure and blood, in defiance of the constitution if you ask me. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Congress hasn't de

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
When did they start billing you? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I have no problem with them saying a personal prayer...they can do that > before they leave for work or when they park their car before they go into > their offices.  Just not on my dime.. ~~~

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
You and me both. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:19 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category So when did Congress declare war? I must have slept in that day... -Original Message-

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
We're not talking about just the Torah we're talking about the what christians refer to as the new testament. I could call it the Tanakh but I figured most wouldn't know what that meant. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > >>Why are you laughing at the Hebrew Bible? Want me to

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Nope, sorry. No war was or has been declared since WW2, swing and a miss. Try again. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Al Qaeda and or the Taliban is defined under th

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"It's odd that you disagree with 99% of what I post, since I try very hard to present facts, and debunk lies and spin. What in that do you find to disagree with" Can you site your references for the following: "It may come as a big surprise to you, but 'the government' is owned lock, stock an

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Seriously, get over the birth certificate. The man is president, lets move on to what he's fucking up :) -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:30 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category not this again.

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
They are both throwing out anecdotal wispers while I have a case that is real and all too common. But thanks for only noticing mine. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Medic wrote: > > I'm sure your brother-in-law is worthy of love from many people, including > myself. However it doesn't make the

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Agreed. I was just pointing out a logical flaw in the statement not disagreeing with your broader point. U.S. citizens caught (by Americans and not someone else) in the US or abroad should be tried as Americans in open court with full access to their accusers. -Original Message- From: E

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Kris Sisk
>The Torah is a part of the Hebrew Bible. > Ok, fair enough. I see where you're coming from now. Yes, the Torah is only the first five books of the Christian Bible. The rest of the writings are seperated out by the Jews. They have the rest seperated out kind of like the Testaments except it's

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I'm not sure if that would overlap with "Steak & BJ Day" which is an officially recognized holiday (at least by cf-community peeps) On May 11, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Sam wrote: > > BJ day? > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > like the "National Day of Service Towards Anothe

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
We're discussing the underwear bomber who wasn't a US citizen On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:58 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Wrong. > > Look into saboteurs and spies in the rules of land warfare.  However I still > wouldn't like to see these rules applied to American citizens.

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah there is a series on youtube about dealing with the police and that's what it boils down to. It's doesn't matter if you are innocent or guilty, doesn't matter if you think you are right or wrong, don't say anything, always ask for a lawyer. -Original Message- From: Kris Sisk [mailto

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
Congress hasn't declared war since WWII yet we have them. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > So when did Congress declare war?  I must have slept in that day.. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: car troubles

2010-05-11 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
well, after figuring out it was going to be a $500.00 job at the dealership, I decided to do it myself. Took a vacation day since I never use them anyway. Bought the part at O'Reilly's for $149. Bought a $10 axle socket and an $8 1/2 extension. I've got the bearing removed now...took about

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread LRS Scout
Wrong. Look into saboteurs and spies in the rules of land warfare. However I still wouldn't like to see these rules applied to American citizens. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:46 AM To: cf-community Subject

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
but there is the problem of implicit approval. Using the school as an example, if a teacher or a principal leads a prayer in front of the class or school assembly what does that say to the students? That whatever the invoked deity is the official one. The authority figure does not have to say such

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Or in the case of conservative anti-gay activists...gay male prostitute day? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments BJ day? On Tu

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Like I said... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:50 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category I did.While not totally liberal they do have a strong bias. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, morgan l wrote: > > Wh

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
I have no problem with them saying a personal prayer...they can do that before they leave for work or when they park their car before they go into their offices. Just not on my dime... -Original Message- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
The Torah is a part of the Hebrew Bible. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It's not called the Torah?  ROFL...You hear that Michael? LOL...wowSam > you are really in need of a clue and an education... ~~

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
So when did Congress declare war? I must have slept in that day... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category Al Qaeda and or the Taliban is defined under the Act of War on Ter

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Kris Sisk
>Why are you laughing at the Hebrew Bible? Want me to call it the Old Testament? > > They're laughing because the Hebrews called it the same thing the modern Jews do. Torah. The term 'Bible' wasn't coined until the second or third century at the earliest. ~

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
By not deactivating your brain...that separates you from the fundamentalist zombie masses like Sam here...I am still lmao at his comment that the Hebrew version of the bible isn't called the Torah hehehehe -Original Message- From: Kris Sisk [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com] Sent: Tuesday, Ma

Re: Darth Vader Will Tell You Where to Drive

2010-05-11 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I wonder how many 'easter eggs' they'll put in there... On May 11, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Matthew P. Smith wrote: > > http://www.tomsguide.com/us/darth-vader-tomtom-celebrity-voices-star-wars,news-6744.html > >

RE: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
It's only liberal if it doesn't goosestep with the conservatives set of facts... -Original Message- From: morgan l [mailto:greyk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category While not the State of Hawaii, you can read some

Re: Shocker: Major corporations may dump health insurance, pay penalties instead

2010-05-11 Thread Medic
I'm sure your brother-in-law is worthy of love from many people, including myself. However it doesn't make the anecdote about his personal experience with a nationalised health care system any more useful to the discussion. And no, I'm not new to the thread... I've been here... lurking... muahaha

RE: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
That I can agree with -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:41 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments we should all just throw out the National D

Re: in the oh hell no category

2010-05-11 Thread morgan l
I stand corrected, though not at all surprised. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > I did.While not totally liberal they do have a strong bias. > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:42 PM, morgan l wrote: > > > > While not the State of Hawaii, you can read some more information here: >

Re: Sarah Palin says American law should be based on the ten commandments

2010-05-11 Thread Sam
Why are you laughing at the Hebrew Bible? Want me to call it the Old Testament? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > If the guy was a fundie, then that is even more reason to realize that > saying that they went by the "Hebrew Bible" (lol) is a crock. >

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