Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Maureen
I remember picking up my first Apple II computer at the store. It didn't even have a hard drive. I had been working with computers of various sorts for several years, including a Zilog Z-80, so the concept of a micro computer was not alien to me. But the Apple was just so cool and I loved it im

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
I see an age divide in how IT people perceive Apple: My over 50 geek friends, in general, love apple. All under 30 love apple or at least see it as a viable product even they have an android. My 35-50 IT friends split about 60% for, 40% against. Those against have a chip on their shoulder an

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Maureen
He didn't convince me of anything. He made a nice, reliable product and I bought them. The idea that buying a product constitutes brainwashing is laughable. I've owned a lot of Fords and several Hondas for the same reason - they provide something I need - in this case, transportation, and they

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Scott Stroz
As for his arrogance, I can sum up how I got that in one sentence: "You're holding it wrong" - which was Jobs' reply to people who complained about dropped calls and antenna problems with the iPhone 4. My MacBook Pro has been very reliable. However, it has not been more reliable than any other co

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread Dana
+1 On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > And be able to be sent to prison. > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dana wrote: >> >> At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for >> purposes of free speech, then they should also pay taxes like anyone >> else

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread Judah McAuley
And be able to be sent to prison. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dana wrote: > > At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for > purposes of free speech, then they should also pay taxes like anyone > else > >> 1. Corporations need to lose their status as individuals.  They

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Sam
It's time again to throw the religion label at the atheists :) http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/apple-is-a-new-religion-and-steve-jobs-was-its-high-priest/2011/10/07/gIQAjYlgTL_story_1.html . On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I would disagree.  Snake oil salesmen sell

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Maureen
I would disagree. Snake oil salesmen sell products that don't work. One of the main reasons I buy Apple products is that they are reliable. They do what they are designed to and do it well. If other computer manufacturers want to emulate Jobs, that quality is what they should strive for. I'm s

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > I wasn't aware how closely you'd worked with him over the years. > > Anyway Tyler pretty much says it right in his summary here: > > http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-died-today/ What exactly does he say? That he is a fanboy? I will a

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread Dana
At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for purposes of free speech, then they should also pay taxes like anyone else > 1. Corporations need to lose their status as individuals.  They can keep > their legal protection for their owners, but they should not be able to > act a

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread PT
I just read about the Gov. of SC pushing for colleges to have to adopt a similar "pay for performance" that the public school system has. No college student left behind? Actually, I think it will result in many being left behind. I can see colleges becoming a lot stricter when it comes to

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
Since roughly 1973 our country has pursued unsustainable social and economic policies independent of which party has controlled either the presidency or congress. Consequently almost every governmental institution and control we have is cracking: * infrastructure is literally crumbling * our

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread Sam
So every night on the news they state they don't know what the protest is for, no demands. Last night they said they finally made a request that rich people pay higher taxes. Is that what PoS's do nowadays? Protest to try and force someone else to pay higher taxes. Get a f'n life aholes. We sho

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
I wasn't aware how closely you'd worked with him over the years. Anyway Tyler pretty much says it right in his summary here: http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/10/steve-jobs-died-today/ On Oct 8, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > The only lives he truly changed were those of Apple shareholde

Re: This occupy wall street poster summarizes some bits nicely

2011-10-08 Thread Dana
quibble: that's more of a differentiation than a summary. But I agree, it's a fairly admirable statement if they keep to it. Probably the most interesting thing I have seen about them yet. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket science to recognize that there's unaddressed inequity out there, but seeing

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Scott Stroz
The only lives he truly changed were those of Apple shareholders. He was more of a cult leader than anything else. Lastly, the fact that the man died of cancer does not negate the fact that he was a douche bag. On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > 1.) brought technology to the

Re: Bungee Jumping @ Adobe MAX

2011-10-08 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > very cool! > > +1 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.hous

Re: XKCD Tribute to Jobs

2011-10-08 Thread Medic
He had an impact in all those industries, sure. He was part of creating a new paradigm. So along with IBM, Xerox, Bill Gates, James Cameron and dozens of others. He didn't change the world, and none of this was single handed. Wise up indeed. He surely was a great business man and a wonderful mark

earworm - you've been warmed

2011-10-08 Thread Dana
it's stuck in my head, so I thought I'd share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vnSXDNkUR0 Heard on the radio driving back from MAX -- interestingly though, not on an LA station. Probably out of Paso Robles or San Luis Obispo. They had it in a set with Shawn Mullins' California, so someone was do