Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
I know people that were there too. One of whom was my battalion chaplin. With a CIB, combat scroll and silver wings upon his chest and a tab of gold and black. On May 8, 2013 10:03 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > I knew people there. > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > >

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
18 lost to 5000 dead? Ill call that a win all day. They turned it into a loss by denying ac-130s and armor and pulling out. On May 8, 2013 9:27 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > still there were over 200 well armed militia. You're not GI-Joe, John Wayne > or Chuck Norris. > > Also that idea of j

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Yeah, "our homies" were using it Bit we're the good guys right? Right? Hey Jerry how do feel about your president looking at pics of a 16 year old american boy who never did anything and saying, yeah kill that one? Jerry what's going on with that fraud case in indian? Whyd then send a fraudul

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
I thought the exact same thing. On May 8, 2013 8:29 PM, "Bruce Sorge" wrote: > > And what's funny is that's right out of the Bush playbook. Parading Powell > to speak of non existent WMD's and mobile WMD factories, and now them > parading Rice to propagate the video lie. You think that they woul

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Its true its true its true When did character cease to matter? Aren't our leaders supposed to be the best among them. And stop talking about republicans. I'm not one and many people upset about this and this administration in general are not. This administration has done more to restrict free

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
This was not a bombing. This was a coordinated planned offensive carried out over multiple attacks over a day supported by indirect fire and carried out by men who used american and local uniforms. They used shoot kove and coomunicate, coordinated and suppresive fires, and crew served weapons.

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Criminal failures. On May 8, 2013 6:30 PM, "Bruce Sorge" wrote: > > However today we were given the facts. And the fact remains that there > were failures at the highest levels. > > > > > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > >> > >> Perception is only everything if you are w

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Not sure I'd go that far, especially in more open and fixed styles of attrition warfare. Special operations are force multipliers that mainly require the support of conventional forces to operate outside JSOC. On May 8, 2013 6:20 PM, "Bruce Sorge" wrote: > > History has shown that a smaller mor

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
No we're better On May 8, 2013 6:17 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > From what I've been reading, I thought that was a Pentagon decision. > Besides there were only a few special forces solders in Tripoli almost 500 > or 600 miles away. Even if they could have got there in time, no offense

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
There was likely also some hinkey gun sales going on I've read. Shit is crazy. On May 8, 2013 6:16 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > Perception is only everything if you are willing to base your decisions on > political or media spin instead of facts. The Bengazi massacre was heavily > spun by both side

RE: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
And to have the timid passive response to even release near apologetic releases about the movie anyway, no matter how offensive the man's free speech rights should have been protected, I'm nit even going to cimment on what I consider to be treason to rices oath. On May 8, 2013 5:41 PM, "Matthew S

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
That's only the very least of the charges I've seen made publically by trusted members of the special operations community. On May 8, 2013 5:41 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" wrote: > > Perception is everything, Jerry, and that's the perception that many have. > > The question of, "What would do"

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
It's a statement if fact. The man is a fraud and a liar. The most lethal president in American history. With a peace prize. Gitmo? Secret targeting of Americans with out due process. Why are you at all surprised? They debated denying the Boston bomber even miranda rights for what should be

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Not to mention possibly calling in other well known regional assets google can tell you all about. Like bruce said, the marines are trained in this very sort of thing. Hell we did it in the 82nd airborne as well. It is an act of war that was carried out by our notional "allies". Its way less t

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
And who mention republicans? Bias showing gelly? Or us that a tan line ;) On May 8, 2013 5:21 PM, "Vivec" wrote: > > A mob of armed men swarmed a US Embassy and killed people in a massive > attack. > What exactly was Obama, or Hillary Clinton supposed to do at that point? > Jump in a helicopte

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Yes. Stack bodies till the opposition gets the idea. An embassy is sovereign americal soil. On May 8, 2013 5:21 PM, "Vivec" wrote: > > A mob of armed men swarmed a US Embassy and killed people in a massive > attack. > What exactly was Obama, or Hillary Clinton supposed to do at that point? > J

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Seriously I want to know straight up what units were how far out. What leaders have been relieved, and rewarded. I've been around marine one and motorcades. I've been around ridge and powell. They are never more than a minute from live feeds in a truck or room. On May 8, 2013 5:16 PM, "Bruce S

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
I saw potential for prosecution. At least sensure. On May 8, 2013 5:15 PM, "Bruce Sorge" wrote: > > Well, in my opinion, from what I heard and read, it was pretty telling of > the complete and utter incompetence of the Obama administration, > specifically with the Office of the Secretary of Sta

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Which was what the WH and the State Department told them to change. . On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Rice reported what was given her by the CIA. > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Matthew S Blatchley >wrote: > > > Who told Rice to give this false story to the media? Ge

Re: factchecker debunks feeble attempt at debunking the 98% finding on climate scientists

2013-05-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Are you guys still trying to sell this religious gibberish?" The gall of a global warming cultist accusing opponents of cherry picking is humorous. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Any thoughts on the Bengazi testimony?" Pretty much what anyone with an iota of common sense knew to be true came out. In order to keep the campaign race running smoothly, an attempt was made to cover up a terrorist attack by feebly calling it a protest over a C-Movie (B is too generous). Res

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I knew people there. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Well I was not referring to me. And Somalia was doomed before it began. > Read the book. > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > On May 8, 2013, at 9:27 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" > wrote: > > > > > still there were over 200 well a

RE: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew S Blatchley
That's a talking point and distraction, not a person. She's not innocent in this regardless of who gave her the edited talking points. She knew it was a cover-up and a lie and I think they'll be able to prove it in the coming days. Rice reported what was given her by the CIA. On Wed, May 8, 2

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well I was not referring to me. And Somalia was doomed before it began. Read the book. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On May 8, 2013, at 9:27 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > still there were over 200 well armed militia. You're not GI-Joe, John Wayne > or Chuck Norris. > > Also that idea of just

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Maureen
"We have always been at war with Eastasia" On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > > And what's funny is that's right out of the Bush playbook. Parading Powell to > speak of non existent WMD's and mobile WMD factories, and now them parading > Rice to propagate the video lie. You

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Maureen
Rice reported what was given her by the CIA. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Matthew S Blatchley wrote: > Who told Rice to give this false story to the media? Get that answer and > you may unravel the rest. > ~| Order the Ado

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
still there were over 200 well armed militia. You're not GI-Joe, John Wayne or Chuck Norris. Also that idea of just a few men resulted in the Battle of Mogadishu in 1993. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > History has shown that a smaller more capable force is almost alway

RE: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew S Blatchley
The other thing was there was vote that passed to send people overseas by both parties after 9/11. Not saying it was a genuine reason or not, but at the time the vote passed. Totally different timeline though. They found the Mustard gas Powell was talking about. But it wasn't enough. . On

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
They found the Mustard gas Powell was talking about. But it wasn't enough. . On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Matthew S Blatchley wrote: > > They don't remove items from the playbook, they just add to it apparently. > > > > And what's funny is that's right out of the Bush playbook. Parading Powe

RE: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew S Blatchley
They don't remove items from the playbook, they just add to it apparently. And what's funny is that's right out of the Bush playbook. Parading Powell to speak of non existent WMD's and mobile WMD factories, and now them parading Rice to propagate the video lie. You think that they would have le

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
And what's funny is that's right out of the Bush playbook. Parading Powell to speak of non existent WMD's and mobile WMD factories, and now them parading Rice to propagate the video lie. You think that they would have learned from that one. I guess they think our memories are really that short.

RE: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew S Blatchley
Pretty sure there also wasn't a public effort to cover up the failures to respond to the attacks in the past. The Feds didn't even make it to the scene of the attack until 18 days later. Why is that? Could it be because the President of Libya (who initially said it was a terrorist group days

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Krauthammer was correct by saying "Under Other Presidents, Particularly Bush," * *"There Was No Storming Of The U.S. Embassy In Cairo." But besides that point, why are you comparing random attacks, bombings to an eight plus hour siege. Every attack, minus when Carter was president and currently,

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Vivec
What the criticisms about Benghazi don't state: the number of attacks that took place during the Bush era. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/08/what-dick-cheneys-benghazi-criticism-misses/193960 http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/mj-20121003-diplomaticattacks.png "Between 2002 and 20

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Look to all the people that died in embassy attacks to see what Republicans would do.. On May 8, 2013 4:21 PM, "Vivec" wrote: > > A mob of armed men swarmed a US Embassy and killed people in a massive > attack. > What exactly was Obama, or Hillary Clinton supposed to do at that point? > Jump in

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Maureen
Exactly. So should the action against them be based on the perception or the reality? Same thing with the Bengazi situation. Base the action on the reality, not the spin. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > > Hell, you could apply the statement to the Cleveland rescu

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
However today we were given the facts. And the fact remains that there were failures at the highest levels. > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> Perception is only everything if you are willing to base your decisions on >> political or media spin instead of facts. Th

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Perception is everything in every day life. Whether you like it or not, what people perceive of what you do at work defines what you do at work in their eyes. It paints how people view each other, it colors how people listen to each other and it lines out what people think they understand about

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Now that's a lot of spinning. . On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Perception is only everything if you are willing to base your decisions on > political or media spin instead of facts. The Bengazi massacre was heavily > spun by both sides. > > IMO, this was a botched CIA miss

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
History has shown that a smaller more capable force is almost always better than a larger not so capable force. On May 8, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > From what I've been reading, I thought that was a Pentagon decision. > Besides there were only a few special forces solders

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
>From what I've been reading, I thought that was a Pentagon decision. Besides there were only a few special forces solders in Tripoli almost 500 or 600 miles away. Even if they could have got there in time, no offense but what could have only a few guys dones? After all no matter how much you brag

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Maureen
Perception is only everything if you are willing to base your decisions on political or media spin instead of facts. The Bengazi massacre was heavily spun by both sides. IMO, this was a botched CIA mission, and Petraeus paid for the screw-up by being removed due to the "sex scandal". The timing

Re: CNN Humor

2013-05-08 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Sam wrote: > CNN Anchors Pretend They’re Having A “Satellite Interview” Even > Though They’re In The Same Parking Lot. That is fantastic. I am pretty sure Nancy Grace eats baby kittens for breakfast. -Cameron ..

CNN Humor

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
CNN's second from top story of the day, Aria being number one: http://beforeitsnews.com/media/2013/05/cnn-anchors-pretend-theyre-having-a-satellite-interview-even-though-theyre-in-the-same-parking-lot-2456012.html CNN Anchors Pretend They’re Having A “Satellite Interview” Even Though They’re In

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Perception is everything, Jerry, and that's the perception that many have. The question of, "What would do" is an attempt to defray the fall-out from what the Administration did. It's a moot point, just as asking, "what would Al Gore have done after 9/11/2001?" We're looking at the events

RE: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Matthew S Blatchley
And then lying about the real things that happened to the public when everyone knew that it was a valid attack and not a demonstration from the very first phone call about the embassy being under attack (not protesters). Whether they could get there in time or whether it was to cuts to funding for

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Since I am interested in what you have to say on the matter, tell you what. Offer me another explanation of why he decided that fund raising was more important than the attacks, and I'll retract my statement and even go so far as to apologize for an "asshole-ish" statement. On May 8, 2013, at

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Bruce, if you want to play with Jerry, you need to mock republicans or conservatives. He's very touchy. . On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I agree that this should be scrutinized and looked at. > > But I also think that statements like this are asshole-ish. > "But

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I agree that this should be scrutinized and looked at. But I also think that statements like this are asshole-ish. "But I guess getting re-elected is more important than saving Americans." So I won't engage. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Well for starters, they would

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well for starters, they would not have told a group of armed US military in Tripoli to stand down. And they would have spun up FEST to assist them. Those things would have been better than just gong to bed or heading off to Las Vegas for a fund raiser. But I guess getting re-elected is more imp

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Go to bed? Wake up the next day and got to a fundraiser? 9/11 is just a day before a fundraiser now. . On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Vivec wrote: > > A mob of armed men swarmed a US Embassy and killed people in a massive > attack. > What exactly was Obama, or Hillary Clinton supposed to do

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Vivec
A mob of armed men swarmed a US Embassy and killed people in a massive attack. What exactly was Obama, or Hillary Clinton supposed to do at that point? Jump in a helicopter and let it rip with a mini gun? What would the Republicans have done? On 8 May 2013 17:15, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Well, i

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Fishing? Fishing for what? The truth? If that's the case, then cast away. On May 8, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I really think at this point it is just fishing and a big political circus. > > ~| Order the Adobe Col

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well, in my opinion, from what I heard and read, it was pretty telling of the complete and utter incompetence of the Obama administration, specifically with the Office of the Secretary of State. I also find it interesting, but in no way surprising, that if you go to Fox News, it's a very promin

Re: How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Vivec
I really think at this point it is just fishing and a big political circus. On 8 May 2013 17:05, Sam wrote: > > Any thoughts on the Bengazi testimony? > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/

How bout those hearings

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Any thoughts on the Bengazi testimony? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/mes

Re: factchecker debunks feeble attempt at debunking the 98% finding on climate scientists

2013-05-08 Thread Sam
Are you guys still trying to sell this religious gibberish? You and the Al Gore apostles need to get lives. . On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Since Sam recent touted the same thing, I thought this was appropriate: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checke

Re: jQuery blues...

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Roberts
That was it...we were missing a style sheet...thanks!! I am in the process of learning jQuery,,,so I am pretty clueless if it isn't apparent. Eric On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM, morgan lindley wrote: > > Sounds like the jQuery ui css file might be missing or an edit made that > broke the .u

Re: jQuery blues...

2013-05-08 Thread morgan lindley
Sounds like the jQuery ui css file might be missing or an edit made that broke the .ui-menu class that sets the list style for the autocomplete ul and li elements. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I am trying to do an autocomplete via jQ

jQuery blues...

2013-05-08 Thread Eric Roberts
I am trying to do an autocomplete via jQuery. It is working with one exception...the list is displayed as a bullet pointed list rather than the "select" like dropdown. Any ideas on what could cause this? Below is the jQuery ands the function from the cfc that pulls the data and sorts it with a

Re: they asked for proof

2013-05-08 Thread LRS Scout
Had to share this!!! BAMFers! On May 8, 2013 12:32 PM, "J.J. Merrick" wrote: > > They wanted a body, dead or alive... they just didn't say how MUCH of the > body! details I say. > > > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/deba

Re: they asked for proof

2013-05-08 Thread J.J. Merrick
They wanted a body, dead or alive... they just didn't say how MUCH of the body! details I say. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > ** > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1296136/As-Gurkha-disciplined-beheading-Taliban-Thank-God-side.html > > that's one bad assed

Fwd: they asked for proof

2013-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
** http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1296136/As-Gurkha-disciplined-beheading-Taliban-Thank-God-side.html that's one bad assed dude. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Ant

factchecker debunks feeble attempt at debunking the 98% finding on climate scientists

2013-05-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Since Sam recent touted the same thing, I thought this was appropriate: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/cherry-picking-one-survey-to-discredit-a-survey-of-scientists-on-climate-change/2013/05/07/e69607d2-b77b-11e2-92f3-f291801936b8_blog.html -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://w