Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
B! Dang, don't you think sometimes it would be easier to be a sheep, Tim? Thinking for yourself and standing up for unpopular opinions is damn hard work at times. That's why I tend to really respect most of the folks on this list, even when we vehemently disagree on a subject. They are c

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
It's gotten to the point that neither side even understand the ideas of representative republicanism On Sep 9, 2014 12:22 AM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > Romney isn't a conservative. He was governor of Massachusetts. > > That's like pointing to Bloomberg as a republican idealist > On Sep 8, 2014 11:41

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Romney isn't a conservative. He was governor of Massachusetts. That's like pointing to Bloomberg as a republican idealist On Sep 8, 2014 11:41 PM, "Rick Faircloth" wrote: > > Judah stated: > > "You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, "I've never seen > someone so depressed and pi

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > He pretty much continued all of Bush's policies. The only liberal part of > his polices has been what the has done for the LGBTQ Community and maybe > the > equal pay for women bills. Other than that, he t

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Tearing asunder On Sep 9, 2014 12:08 AM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > That's a terrible atrocious idea. > > I have worked to hard to ensure neither of my children join to have them > see this place turn to shit. > > The initiation of violence for political means is immoral. > > There are legitimate caus

Re: Mexicans of African descent founded Los Angeles today.

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
The Seminoles and other tribes also had open welcome policies and we're heavily mixed. The United states, more than any other place was supposed to be covered by mind and merit. We're pretty much all mutts when you boil it right down On Sep 9, 2014 12:08 AM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > Tha

Re: Mexicans of African descent founded Los Angeles today.

2014-09-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
That is a great article, thanks for sharing. I was vaguely aware of that, although when I thought "African ancestry" for those early settlers, I always imagined Moorish influence, northern Africa up on the coast of the Med, which also had a large impact historically on the early Spanish settlers,

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
That's a terrible atrocious idea. I have worked to hard to ensure neither of my children join to have them see this place turn to shit. The initiation of violence for political means is immoral. There are legitimate causes did violent response, I've made it through a couple without it so far.

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
It's time for you ilk (you like that term, don't you, Judah...), as someone who lacked the common sense to vote against Obama, to sit down, shut up, and let those of us who know what this country needs to get it back on the right course. There is no room any longer for attempts to compromise wi

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Haha, Judah, sheep On Sep 8, 2014 11:48 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > Cool. Your statements about me pretty obviously show you are utterly > ignorant on the subject. Plenty of folks on this list have very differing > views on various subjects than I, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find >

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
No, Judah and Jerry, you're both wrong. I make no equivalency argument, but both were victims of assault. However, both assaults should be treated on their own merits, or lack thereof. Yes, Ray is guilty of his assault and should be punished accordingly, whether he hit a man or a woman. The f

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
I'm still missing the part where we are planning on using untested technologies on folks in the military without their consent. Which link was that in? A lot came through today and I may have missed it in the clutter. If that's true, I'm totally on your side, that isn't cool. On Mon, Sep 8, 20

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Cool. Your statements about me pretty obviously show you are utterly ignorant on the subject. Plenty of folks on this list have very differing views on various subjects than I, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone here who believes that I am a sheep, that Obama is my master, that I am

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
I'm not in the last, I'm saying using untested technologies on us is wrong. That is the current plan. On Sep 8, 2014 11:45 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > I agree completely that people in the military should not be any less > protected than average citizens when it comes to the standards of inf

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
So we gone from mapping the brain to reading and writing it, to proof of "brain chips", a term I used specifically for the connotations, and no fear. Bush was no conservative republican, and I have no idea what Obama is On Sep 8, 2014 11:42 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > That doesn't sound so ho

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Damn it On Sep 8, 2014 11:42 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > I'd sooner trust it to the private sector where both medical research and > > care belong. > > > > Uh, no. > > > > With proper legislative oversight. > > > > > They do. The leg

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
I agree completely that people in the military should not be any less protected than average citizens when it comes to the standards of informed consent. Fight for that and I'm right by your side. No one should be a guinea pig when they don't understand what they are getting into. Don't trash th

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Anthrax vaccine was still experimental and I did the full series, finished a couple weeks before the congress removed the militaries power to require it. Two different types of anti malarial both which we know now have terrible side effects. Numerous mental health drugs that were worse than anyt

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:38 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I'd sooner trust it to the private sector where both medical research and > care belong. > Uh, no. > With proper legislative oversight. > > They do. The legislative branch oversees the FDA, the NIH, and Veterans Affairs. > You can't use s

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
That doesn't sound so horrible...it sounds like it can do a lot of good. Like Judah said...any tech is open to abuse...but to say this is a horrible thing is a bit overly paranoid. Again, not surprised coming from Tim. -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:chumph...@gmail.c

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Plus, Rice did not SLAP her. Those were full on punches thrown by a professional athlete in the prime of his physical prowess, against a girl he outweighs by a hundred pounds. and for me it wasnt just the punch. it was the complete disregard or remorse he showed AFTERWARDS. No worry about how she

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
Judah stated: "You know, Rick, my wife said to me on election night, "I've never seen someone so depressed and pissed off when the person they voted for won". I really don't care for Democrats as a general rule and I really hated to have to vote for Obama, but you and your ilk, Rick, make me w

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Yes, Tim, they are quitting jobs or cutting hours to do other things because they don't need the employer-sponsored health care coverage. I personally know a couple people who are now starting companies because they don't need to keep their crappy job just to make sure that they have health care f

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
I'd sooner trust it to the private sector where both medical research and care belong. With proper legislative oversight. You can't use stem cells but you can and HAVE tested on me personally? Blow me On Sep 8, 2014 11:30 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > There is definitely the potential for mi

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
He pretty much continued all of Bush's policies. The only liberal part of his polices has been what the has done for the LGBTQ Community and maybe the equal pay for women bills. Other than that, he turned out to be not much different than Bush, with the exception of being a bit more prudent abou

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
*Health-care law will prompt over 2 million to quit jobs or cut hours, a CBO report says* http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/cbo-botched-health-care-law-rollout-will-reduce-signups-by-1-million-people/2014/02/04/c78577d0-8dac-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html 100 Unintended Consequen

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Ray Champagne
But it WAS a woman, and he WAS a man, and he should have showed more control considering the size of him vs her. No excuse for that shit. There are easier and more safe ways of subduing your "attacker" in the situation he was in. Blaming the victim for being too aggressive is bullshit in this c

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
There is definitely the potential for misuse and abuse. We need to be vigilant, no doubt. The technologies themselves have some truly wonderful applications, though. Cheers, Judah On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:28 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > To control ptsd and tbi, the woods are in there. > > The Japa

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative at best. > I'm curious, what policy or stance would you use to put him in that category? > Brain implant chips? Seriously Tim? > I thou

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
I said no such thing On Sep 8, 2014 11:27 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Weren't you also saying that the ACA mandated chips to be implanted in > everyone? See the pattern here... > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:2

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
To control ptsd and tbi, the woods are in there. The Japanese Scientist whose name I'm not going to butcher was on Colbert two weeks ago talking about reading direct images, "fixing" mentally ill people. Mental illness is an excuse that had been used to malign different purple for centuries. On

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Weren't you also saying that the ACA mandated chips to be implanted in everyone? See the pattern here... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:21 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate minimally-in

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Brain chips are cool. They are doing some great work trying to disrupt epilepsy without debilitating drugs and using implants to help folks (especially veterans) operate artificial limbs. It's brilliant work that is going to make life a whole lot better for a huge number of people, veterans especi

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
Ah, gotcha, victime blaming. Yeah, Rick should go to hell. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > He means that the light slap that she hit him with in the hall before they > got on the elevator should be treated exactly the same as the two punches > by Rice that knocked

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
All I am seeing is about it mapping the human brain in a similar manner to the genome...so they have a better understanding of how the neural pathways work. Jumping to brain chips, while not surprising coming from you, is a bit extreme. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
No, Tim. More people insured, paying less money, helping people I know right and left. Opposite of what you are saying. Opposite. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:19 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > You're killing me, no apology, no horror at the realization that brain > chips are a real fucking thing? > > Who

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
What does that mean you pig headed fool? On Sep 8, 2014 11:19 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to brain > implants... > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
I still haven't seen anything about brain chips... Wrong on the ACA...nice try though... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:20 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate You're killing me, no apolog

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
You're killing me, no apology, no horror at the realization that brain chips are a real fucking thing? Who was the ACA good for? It still hasn't been fully implemented and there are now LESS people insured, paying more money, and if you can't afford it you get a fine. And if you can't see the i

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
minimally-invasive neurotechnologies On Sep 8, 2014 11:19 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to brain > implants... > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM > To

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Outside of nutcase websites, I don't see anything referring to brain implants... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:05 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate Dude I shit you not it's in the White

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
The ACA has not had the opposite effect...it is doing better than expected actually. -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 10:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Democrats set to lose the senate Social program spending has incr

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves emailed me about it: http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/08/26/fact-sheet-president-obama-announces-new-executive-actions-fulfill-our-p *Continuing our Commitment to Improve Treatments for Mental Health Conditions incl

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
I don't lie and I'm tired of you calling me a liar and not even reading any of the applicable source I invariably dig up. On Sep 8, 2014 11:04 PM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > Dude I shit you not it's in the Whitehouse site and they themselves > emailed me about it: > > > http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-pre

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Social program spending has increased, deficit spending has increased, corruption is rife at all levels of government, how can anyone defend any incumbent anymore? It's insane. The ACA had the opposite effect intended. We're under constant significance, and a county in Florida's just bought six

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Obama is hardly a hardcore liberal...he is a moderate conservative at best. Brain implant chips? Seriously Tim? -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democrats set to lose the senate Ther

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
He means that the light slap that she hit him with in the hall before they got on the elevator should be treated exactly the same as the two punches by Rice that knocked her out. Since they are exactly equivalent in every way. =) On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On M

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:01 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > The parties disagree on enough to keep us fighting while they do what they > want. > Going to derail a bit with a video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWAxpugt0J4 (*POSSIBLE TRIGGER WARNING - contains things getting blown up, aliens and sh

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Ugh, I need to proofread On Sep 8, 2014 10:08 PM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the consortium > in the white house right now. > > Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation? > > Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to giv

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
Powers not post On Sep 8, 2014 10:01 PM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > They aren't Nazis, democrats aren't communists. > > They have all gone far outside the bounds of what I consider to be > legitimate limits in the post of government. > > Everyone loves to point out that hang if president Obama's polic

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
There is a hardcore liberal didn't running roughshod over the consortium in the white house right now. Have you seem some I'd the attempted gun control legislation? Don't forget chairman Obama's recent decree to give vets brain implant chips, which it turns out haven't even been human tested yet

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
They aren't Nazis, democrats aren't communists. They have all gone far outside the bounds of what I consider to be legitimate limits in the post of government. Everyone loves to point out that hang if president Obama's policies are merely continuations of Bush era policies. The parties disagree

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills. > You mean the double digit votes to "repeal" the Affordable Care Act? > Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, pass them > (if he could), > an

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
How can you use those words in that order and have discourse. On Sep 8, 2014 9:02 PM, "Vivec" wrote: > > The democrats seem to be completely incompetent, although they are up > against a bunch of right wing extremists calling themselves the GOP party. > > I just shudder to think what the US will

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > I'm just going to jump into the middle of this, only knowing what has > been said in this thread: > > What should happen to the woman concerning her battery? > I'm not sure what you are getting at, Rick, could you clarify? What do you me

RE: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Roberts
Or they don't bring it up at all Rick. Boehner does the same thing Reid does...they control what bills come to the floor in their respective houses and Boehner has not let a lot of what has passed in the senate come to the house floor. The Senate just passed a bill tonight that would overturn Ci

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Vivec
The democrats seem to be completely incompetent, although they are up against a bunch of right wing extremists calling themselves the GOP party. I just shudder to think what the US will become under a GOP government. We have already seen what is taking place in Australia under the leadership of

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
That's nonsense, Judah... at least the House votes and passes bills. Wouldn't it be smarter for Reid to bring up bills for a vote, pass them (if he could), and then force the House to have to wrestle with a bill? Reid is only trying to protect his senators by making sure they don't have to tak

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Rick Faircloth
I'm just going to jump into the middle of this, only knowing what has been said in this thread: What should happen to the woman concerning her battery? On 9/8/2014 5:24 PM, Maureen wrote: > If he didn't want to get fired for violating a contract with an > anti-domestic abuse clause, he shouldn'

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
It does go both ways, to an extent. I sense, in general, a greater willingness to compromise on the side of the Democrats but you can't be sure because the Tea Party has made it a litmus test. They can't agree to even vote on straight up Republican ideas if they were introduced by a Democrat. Whe

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Maureen
If he didn't want to get fired for violating a contract with an anti-domestic abuse clause, he shouldn't have hit his wife. After many years of volunteering in rape and domestic abuse crisis centers, my recommended punishment for wife abusers involves removing their testicles with a dull potato pe

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Vivec
He got fired. I don't think that reaction matched what I saw in the video. On 8 September 2014 16:59, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Well, in the past, there have been suspensions. > In October of 2008, Adam Jones was initially suspended indefinitely for an > altercation with a bodyguard, but that was

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well, in the past, there have been suspensions. In October of 2008, Adam Jones was initially suspended indefinitely for an altercation with a bodyguard, but that was reduced to a 4 game suspension. In 2011, Cedric Benson was suspended for 3 games for misdemeanor assault. These are two incidents th

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
You can't remove the size distinctions, especially from an nfl player. He could easily have restrained her and it's not the first time. On Sep 8, 2014 4:38 PM, "Vivec" wrote: > > Forget the woman, let's look at two men. > > The guy slaps Rice in the hallway. > > Then the guy slaps rice again in

Re: Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Vivec
Forget the woman, let's look at two men. The guy slaps Rice in the hallway. Then the guy slaps rice again inside the elevator. They push each other around, then the first guy comes at Rice AGAIN, a third time. Then Rice slaps himand he falls unconscious. If this was not a man-woman issue, w

Ray Rice

2014-09-08 Thread Ray Champagne
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Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
I always thought that was intentional On Sep 8, 2014 3:46 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Judah McAuley > wrote: > > > I think that that article described the situation well and concisely. I > > know that the House is killing anything that moves and that the

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > I think that that article described the situation well and concisely. I > know that the House is killing anything that moves and that the Tea Party > will not tolerate any compromises with Democrats. > It misses a major point - Reid isn't b

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread LRS Scout
I don't see vision coming from either party at this point. On Sep 8, 2014 3:22 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > I think that that article described the situation well and concisely. I > know that the House is killing anything that moves and that the Tea Party > will not tolerate any compromises wi

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Judah McAuley
I think that that article described the situation well and concisely. I know that the House is killing anything that moves and that the Tea Party will not tolerate any compromises with Democrats. I still expect Democrats to articulate a positive vision and try and do something. Sitting around and

Re: Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Cameron Childress
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Democrats set to lose the senate

2014-09-08 Thread Vivec
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/09/senate-midterms?fsrc=scn/fb/wl/bl/whythedemocratswillprobablylose Things about to get even worse in US? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.co