"No, it makes you criminally wrong and continuing a habit of using incorrect
throw away statements for snippy and partisan purposes with no real attempt
to do anything useful and worthwhile."
Criminally? Nice.
Partisan? You brought up the DOJ from another administration in an attempt
at parti
"Seems you'd be wrong in that statement: Isn't that how we know an ATF gun
killed Brian Terry?"
Dude, leftist are never wrong. It is ALWAYS someone else's fault. How
dare you.
Anyway, here is a classic counter example by ATF agent John Dodson.
On June 1, Dodson used $2,500 in ATF funds to pur
"the Mexican drug cartels formerly got a small percentage of their guns via
the ATF ..."
So that makes it okay?
"... in a very misguided law enforcement program which no longer exists."
F & F maybe dead, but who knows what else in play. No one would know about
F&F except for the tragic shooti
Yeah, let's not let facts get in the way of a good political donnybrook.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Hey don't you know that according to many on the right, facts are
> UnAmerican and probably a commie plot.
Even the idea that ATF provided any guns has been debunked. At worse,
they failed to prevent a small number of illegally purchased guns from
being delivered to the cartels because a DOJ prosecutor refused to
press charges, but in no instance did the ATF provide those weapons.
http://finance.fort
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Where or how do you think that groups like Koney's LRA or even the Taliban
> get their arms and equipment."
>
> As an interesting DOJ aside, the Mexican drug cartels use child soldiers
> and the Mexican Drug cartels get their guns from the
"Where or how do you think that groups like Koney's LRA or even the Taliban
get their arms and equipment."
As an interesting DOJ aside, the Mexican drug cartels use child soldiers
and the Mexican Drug cartels get their guns from the DOJ via the ATF.
J
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Ninety percent of politicians give the
Anyhow you can believe that myth. Then try figuring out how it applies
to how Charles Taylor or the LRA recruit children. Until you know what
you're talking about this conversation won't go anywhere. Start here
first.
http://www.child-soldiers.org/home
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:40 AM, LRS Scout
How many of those children would be alive if their fathers had stood up,
armed, and said enough?
On Jul 12, 2012 9:35 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
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> Tim,
>
> Where or how do you think that groups like Koney's LRA or even the
> Taliban get their arms and equipment. That's what this treaty is
> h
Tim,
Where or how do you think that groups like Koney's LRA or even the
Taliban get their arms and equipment. That's what this treaty is
hoping to limit. But you think that the current international arms
regime is OK> That allows butchers and thugs to buy military firepower
without worry.
As I s
That's disgusting.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "The major difference between my example and yours: mine involves AK-47s
> and children. Yours involves words. Think about the difference."
>
> Bullshit. It involves drones and children.
>
> Anwar Al-Aulaqi and Egyptia
Obviously I don't want to see any dead kids, but come on man, enough is
enough.
Echelon, FBI Signing letters, CIA used domestically, militarization of the
police, NDAA, CISPA, UN Small Arms Treaty, it goes on and on.
I'm about done.
Something is going to happen.
Domestic use of drones.
Fuck m
"The major difference between my example and yours: mine involves AK-47s
and children. Yours involves words. Think about the difference."
Bullshit. It involves drones and children.
Anwar Al-Aulaqi and Egyptian-born Gihan Mohsen Baker had an American son,
born on September 13, 1995, in Denver, n
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "Dude, I agree that the Justice Dept lackey was way out of line and deserves
> a smack down (presuming that what was quoted actually happened of course)."
>
> How about fired?
Probably. I've only seen the one reference to the incident, how
"Dude, I agree that the Justice Dept lackey was way out of line and deserves
a smack down (presuming that what was quoted actually happened of course)."
How about fired?
" I'm really unhappy about the DOJ but, honestly, I'd say that overall things
are better now than they were 8 years ago. "
"What's wrong with these provisions? If it prevents Koney from killing a
few more hundred innocents why not?"
Kony? Really? The scam lives on.
"Seriously how many children have to sacrificed on your altar to the 2nd
Amendment?"
If something like this were in place 250 years ago, there wou
Not quite. I've seen worse.
When you look beyond the hysterical NRA propaganda as, I mentioned its
a pretty good treaty proposal. Right now the arms transfer regime is a
joke. You can get an end user certificate from any number of 3rd world
countries now for only a few hundred to a couple of thou
Holy crap. That might be the single scariest and dumbest statement I
have _ever_ read on the internets.
Congratulations.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:50 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> All of them if need be.
>
> On Jul 11, 2012 10:25 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
>> Seriously how many children have to s
All of them if need be.
On Jul 11, 2012 10:25 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
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> Looking at what is involved in the treaty personally I think its a
> fairly good one. Its intended, when finalized, to minimize the traffic
> in small arms. I mean seriously does Afghanistan or Somalia need
> another 1
Looking at what is involved in the treaty personally I think its a
fairly good one. Its intended, when finalized, to minimize the traffic
in small arms. I mean seriously does Afghanistan or Somalia need
another 100,000 AK-47's.
Look at the nations who are sponsoring it, Argentina, Australia, Cost
It's not just this, I'm really upset right now about the UN Small Arms
Treaty.
Just, so much, too much.
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> Dude, I agree that the Justice Dept lackey was way out of line and
> deserves a smack down (presuming that what was quoted actually
Dude, I agree that the Justice Dept lackey was way out of line and
deserves a smack down (presuming that what was quoted actually
happened of course). But armed insurrection over that sort of shit?
I'm really unhappy about the DOJ but, honestly, I'd say that overall
things are better now than the
y
On Jul 10, 2012 10:08 PM, "LRS Scout" wrote:
> DOJ is out of control.
>
> It's about time we water the tree of libert.
> On Jul 10, 2012 9:03 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote:
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>>
>> 'DOJ practice' slammed by politicos,
>> group<
>> http://www.iberianet.com/news/doj-practice-slammed-by-politicos-gro
DOJ is out of control.
It's about time we water the tree of libert.
On Jul 10, 2012 9:03 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote:
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> 'DOJ practice' slammed by politicos,
> group<
> http://www.iberianet.com/news/doj-practice-slammed-by-politicos-group/article_32a8d028-c8b7-11e1-aa3d-0019bb2963f4.html
> >
>
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