Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > The flip flop argument tries to play on emotion over reason. It hopes to > avoid any discussion about the actual issue, and whether reason or knowledge > could have played a role in the decision to change positions. > It's seems so odd that this is true especially given the Fathe

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-20 Thread G Money
On 4/19/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > isn't that pretty much the same for anybody? Some people choose > unions to follow, some people choose a religion to follow, some people > choose Howard Stern to follow. I can't see a reason why one would be > any better than the other.

RE: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:15 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?) > > > Russ wrote: > > Not any worse than Bush == Devil that most of the people here po

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
isn't that pretty much the same for anybody? Some people choose unions to follow, some people choose a religion to follow, some people choose Howard Stern to follow. I can't see a reason why one would be any better than the other. Some may change their pov more often than others. Some never cha

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Bruce Sorge
A lot of union workers that I know drive rust buckets but have nice things at home like a nice truck/car, boat, quads, bikes, etc... I have been contemplating doing that very thing, pay cash for some junker economy car that will carry me to the train station and back (about 75 miles round trip) and

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> gg wrote: > > Russ wrote: > > Her guiding virtue is whatever her union tells her. > > 8-0 > How come "vote union, live better" bumper stickers are always on rusty junkers? ~| ColdFusion MX7 by AdobeĀ® Dyncamically transform webc

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Gruss Gott
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Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Russel Madere
The guys I know are truly flipfloppers. My sister is one. Her guiding virtue is whatever her union tells her. She proudly proclaims that. She has no other guiding princliple. > > Russ wrote: > > I will admit that there are republicans (i.e. Schwarzenager) out > there that do the same, but I

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > I will admit that there are republicans (i.e. Schwarzenager) out there that > do the same, but I rarely,if ever, see Libertarians pull that move. I think you're confusing dropping values with prioritizing values. For example, I'm fiscally conservative and usually vote for Republic

Re: Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Russel Madere
So what does this say about people who change or even drop thier "sacred" values to match those of a populist political figure? Or those who put political expediency over thier "sacred" values? I know and am related to many like this and 99% are members of the democratic party. The other 1% a

Abortion (Re: Liberalism == God?)

2007-04-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > Not any worse than Bush == Devil that most of the people here post. Let's take a piece of the argument: "to prove Liberalism correct, the heartbeat didn't matter." I would offer that this person wasn't saying "it doesn't matter" but rather, "there are things that matter more." Th