Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>(I was referring to Fox, not the "folks" that were part of the original >thread.) I dunno, it sort of applies when you refer to them as cornered weasels. Although given the survivalist mentality, it may be insulting weasels. ~~~

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > But there you go, if you start talking about banning this kind of idiocy, it > plays right into their hands and will only fan the flames. Yeah, you all are right, but these gun show people are scary. My buddy has worked with his son (like 8 maybe?) to create "his own business"

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-29 Thread Dana
yes they can, because the alternative is government regulation of the press. So long as they are not committing liberl, they can say whatever they are, and even if they are, the penalties are civil and it is up to the libeled party to enforce them. A bad system but better than the alternative, and

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
(I was referring to Fox, not the "folks" that were part of the original thread.) Speaking of Fox, I am speechless about this particular legal case. Fox argues that it has the right to knowingly lie in it's news coverage. And the court agrees http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html On W

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Cornered weasels are notoriously dangerous. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>> RoMunn wrote: >>> Yeah, someone needs to reassure all these folks that the government is not >>> coming after them. I'm not sure how we go about doing that, but it needs to >>> happen. Just beca

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>> RoMunn wrote: >> Yeah, someone needs to reassure all these folks that the government is not >> coming after them. I'm not sure how we go about doing that, but it needs to >> happen. Just because their fears are irrational does not mean they should be >> ignored or dismissed. >> > >This is where

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Gruss wrote: > > These people (Limbaugh, Hannity, but worse Beck, O'reilly) prey upon > people's fears and stoke them. > > At what point does that become irresponsible to the point of ban? We > ban hate speech. You can't yell fire in a movie theater. At what >

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-28 Thread Bruce Sorge
It is only dangerous if you are a lemming that just goes with the flow and does not bother to look at all sides. I love watching Fox News. To me it is real news, but it is not the only news. Here in Iraq, I leave my TV on AFN News. This allows me to watch Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, HNN and the Toda

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-28 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > This is where I wonder about free speech for people like Glen Beck. > > These people (Limbaugh, Hannity, but worse Beck, O'reilly) prey upon > people's fears and stoke them. > > At what point does that become irresponsible to the point of ban?

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Yeah, someone needs to reassure all these folks that the government is not > coming after them. I'm not sure how we go about doing that, but it needs to > happen. Just because their fears are irrational does not mean they should be > ignored or dismissed. > This is where I wonde

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Munn
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Gruss wrote: > > > A good friend is majorly involved in that stuff: sells products @ > shows, is a conceal trainer, takes all the gun psycho training, et al > > Basically all the talk right now, according to him, is when the > government is going to attack: next w

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Putting on my corporate hat, I'd say Obama's team should figure out some > effective change management strategies to keep these sorts of folks from > stepping off the edge. But they have a lot of shit to deal with right now, DARN YOU and your clear headed thinking. I totally ag

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-27 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Gruss wrote: > > Basically was wacked out that Obama was elected, thought the > government was ag'in 'im, got laid off, and killed cops. > > Same story as that Pittsburgh guy Sadly, this is probably not the last time we'll see this scenario. I don't know how muc

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Stroz wrote: > They wanted to arrest him for wakign up his wife?  Please tell me there were > some important details that got chopped out. > Yeah, I lost the link now, but basically he went into the bathroom to look for some toothpaste or something and then got pissed when he couldn't find it.

Re: Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-27 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > A trend? > -- > > On Sunday, lawmen still were investigating why Joshua Cartwright, a > 28-year-old U.S. Army Reserve soldier with a history of violence, > killed Okaloosa County sheriff's deputies Burt Lopez and Warren "Skip" > York at

Another Shooter Kills Cops

2009-04-27 Thread Gruss Gott
A trend? -- On Sunday, lawmen still were investigating why Joshua Cartwright, a 28-year-old U.S. Army Reserve soldier with a history of violence, killed Okaloosa County sheriff's deputies Burt Lopez and Warren "Skip" York at a gun range in Crestview. An offense report filed against Cartwrigh