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"I am all for term limits, but I think the whole 'throw the bums out' mentality doesn't take into consideration that sometimes the replacement will be worse that what it there now." That doesn't happen now? With term limits, at least a party could start looking for a decent candidate two years o

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"Think back to the 2004 Presidential race, how many people voted for Bush because, as a lot of people said, 'I would rather have the devil I know than the devil I don't'" Sadly, the majority of the time, I find myself voting against a candidate instead of voting for the other candidate. J - T

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Or because we liked what he was doing even though the press told us to think otherwise. . On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Think back to the 2004 Presidential race, how many people voted for > Bush because, as a lot of people said,  'I would rather have the devil > I kno

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Think back to the 2004 Presidential race, how many people voted for Bush because, as a lot of people said, 'I would rather have the devil I know than the devil I don't' On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I am all for term limits, but I think the whole "throw the bums out" > me

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I am all for term limits, but I think the whole "throw the bums out" mentality doesn't take into consideration that sometimes the replacement will be worse that what it there now. I certainly know that was the case for several offices in the last election out here. The governor's race was term li

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > The congressional job approval rating hovers around 20%.  Incumbents win > re-election over 80% of the time. At least they add up to 100% -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wo

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"And replace them with whom" A challenger on the ballot. Alas, there isn't always a good option. For example, what if Alan Grayson were to run in 2010 for his old congressional seat? Of course, term limits would be better. Then you would two or more choices and not even have to worry about th

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"Ah yes, because 'toss everyone out' is sooo indicative of rational thought and individual liberty." Thomas Jefferson thought so. In terms of our democratic republic, I'll side with him: The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provisions should be made to preve

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Amen.  Start by voting against every incumbent. And replace them with whom ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp

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Ah yes, because "toss everyone out" is sooo indicative of rational thought and individual liberty. You're as bad as all the sheeple that vote the party line. Judah On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Those Liberals!  /They/ are the *real* problem with America!" > > If you

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"Those Liberals! /They/ are the *real* problem with America!" If you say so. I tend to think career politicians in general are the real problem. The artificial aristocracy. "Let's take back our country!" Amen. Start by voting against every incumbent. They should be in the crosshairs. "T

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:15 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> I *do* like the idea of politicians ditching the violent rhetoric though. >> > > I do not think the phrase 'in the crosshairs' is violent rhetoric, in > and of itself. it can surely be use

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y isn't innocent metaphor. What's next? Are they going to claim that saying to go shoot the president means get out and vote too? -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 20:36 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic cong

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:15 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> I *do* like the idea of politicians ditching the violent rhetoric though. >> > > I do not think the phrase 'in the crosshairs' is violent rhetoric, in > and of itself. it can surely be u

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:15 PM, denstar wrote: > > I *do* like the idea of politicians ditching the violent rhetoric though. > I do not think the phrase 'in the crosshairs' is violent rhetoric, in and of itself. it can surely be used as such, but most times I have heard that from public figures

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:37 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> This is a typical extremist reaction - 'just ban everything'. >> >> It's a fucking metaphor!!! >> > > This shit rises in the near term after an event, but always fades in the > long te

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "This is getting tired." > > Amen.  That's part of the liberal debate style.  Wear them down.  Doesn't > matter if it's right or wrong, just keep saying it until they stop > responding. *gawf*! Those Liberals! /They/ are the *real* probl

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > This is a typical extremist reaction - 'just ban everything'. > > It's a fucking metaphor!!! > This shit rises in the near term after an event, but always fades in the long term. Remember when we weren't supposed to call football players

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This is a typical extremist reaction - 'just ban everything'. It's a fucking metaphor!!! On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "This is getting tired." > > Amen.  That's part of the liberal debate style.  Wear them down.  Doesn't > matter if it's right or wrong, just keep sa

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It will not be long before the use of metaphors is illegal. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "This is getting tired." > > Amen.  That's part of the liberal debate style.  Wear them down.  Doesn't > matter if it's right or wrong, just keep saying it until they stop > resp

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On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "This is getting tired." > > Amen.  That's part of the liberal debate style.  Wear them down.  Doesn't > matter if it's right or wrong, just keep saying it until they stop > responding. I had no idea you were a liber ~

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"This is getting tired." Amen. That's part of the liberal debate style. Wear them down. Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, just keep saying it until they stop responding. By the way, interesting piece on CNN and its use of the word crosshairs: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-c

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This is getting tired. . On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:16 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Sam wrote: >> >> Amazing how many times you think you can get away with that:P > > I was off base.  Discussion tactics are irrelevant to this > conversation.  Those other dodges where

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On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Sam wrote: > > Amazing how many times you think you can get away with that:P I was off base. Discussion tactics are irrelevant to this conversation. Those other dodges where then, this is now. > So again you attacked JB instead of JM just because JB said to loo

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On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "LOL!  Again with the "they do it too!" logic?  Awesome!  If it's > a rationale that works for you, stick with it!" > > You can't show hypocrisy without "they do it too" logic.  If you don't point > out hypocrisy, how wi

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Amazing how many times you think you can get away with that:P So again you attacked JB instead of JM just because JB said to look in your own garden first. So what you're saying is it's open season to mock people on the right for doing a scaled back version of what the left does and you will con

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"LOL! Again with the "they do it too!" logic? Awesome! If it's a rationale that works for you, stick with it!" You can't show hypocrisy without "they do it too" logic. If you don't point out hypocrisy, how will they ever know they are hypocrites. "Eye for an eye, wot wot!" Next, you're maki

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On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "And Judah" > > I will say that Judah wasn't to concerned when the DC elitist liberals and > their complicit partners in the media were pushing an us against them agenda > during the town hall meetings and tea party protests.  Lots of violen

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: ... > Does that mean I don't think the rhetoric needs to be toned down? No. > All it mean is that in this particular case, I do not think it had > anything to do with it. Something a lot of people can;t seem to grok. Yes, denounce it soundly! =

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"I didn't think that pity was an attack. You have my pity for that as well." I can certainly believe that you didn't think. You have my pity for thinking that everyone who states something that disrupts your fragile world view needs pity. Hopefully, you'll grow out of that. There is still time

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Yes...because so many people have been shot by liberal thugs of the past few years... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 15:02 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range

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I didn't think that pity was an attack. You have my pity for that as well. Judah On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "The world you live in must really suck and I feel pity for you." > > Ahh.  Just like a liberal drone.  Start with the personal attacks and the > pity.  You

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Troll warning: "When I said that Jared Loughner was a Bush-hater, all the eyeballs on the other side of the glass looked at me in total surprise. They had not seen it reported anywhere." -Rush "For seven, eight years, none of the anti-government, anti-Bush talk ever concerned the media. The rea

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"The world you live in must really suck and I feel pity for you." Ahh. Just like a liberal drone. Start with the personal attacks and the pity. You pity me because I just don't understand, hug? Judah, I feel sorry for you as well. To have an IQ that seems adequate and yet unable to see realit

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"And Judah" I will say that Judah wasn't to concerned when the DC elitist liberals and their complicit partners in the media were pushing an us against them agenda during the town hall meetings and tea party protests. Lots of violence from union thugs and liberal drones against these American ci

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I hate web forums and prefer email lists, but damn I wish there was a -1 troll mod for you Jerry. The world you live in must really suck and I feel pity for you. Judah On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I said who her ilk are: people that are pushing an Us vs Them worldv

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And Judah On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > I said who her ilk are: people that are pushing an Us vs Them worldview, > fostering hate and spewing out rhetoric designed to encourage violence and > ignorance." > > Ahhh.  You mean people like Paul Krugman and President Obama.

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I said who her ilk are: people that are pushing an Us vs Them worldview, fostering hate and spewing out rhetoric designed to encourage violence and ignorance." Ahhh. You mean people like Paul Krugman and President Obama. J - A message to progressives: By all means, hang Senator Joe Lieberman

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Your point? This study has nothing to do with the shooting in Tuscon or the point I and others have been trying to make - which is, for what seems like the 90th time, casting blame on the 'rhetoric' so quickly after the shooting was poor journalism and, in my opinion, an attempt by the media and

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> I am not denying that. But to date, there has been no connection >> between what she said and what he did. I am not saying she was right >> in saying what she did, nor am I condoning

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What one study says about violence as a result of political rhetoric. Basically there is a small subset of Democrats and republicans who are Trait Aggressive and are likely to be more influenced to act out their aggression due to violent speech. Republicans are NOT more prone to this than Democra

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On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Words matter and Sarah Palin and her ilk push an odious brand of vitriol > that drags things further and further into the muck and push an Us vs Them, > violence justified, view of the world." > > > Who are her ilk?  I nominate the followi

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Let me shoot you and see if you don't have a similar reaction Jerry... -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 16:03 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. Tucson sho

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"Words matter and Sarah Palin and her ilk push an odious brand of vitriol that drags things further and further into the muck and push an Us vs Them, violence justified, view of the world." Who are her ilk? I nominate the following: *I. PALIN HATE* Flashback — pointing a fake gun

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Tucson shooting victim detained at taping of TV special: 'You're dead,' man yells while photographing Tea Party spokesman Excerpt: A Tucson mass shooting victim was taken into custody Saturday after yelling "you're dead" at a Te

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I am not denying that. But to date, there has been no connection > between what she said and what he did. I am not saying she was right > in saying what she did, nor am I condoning what she said, but in this > case, the case that brought all t

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I think calling people names because they have different opinions is stupid. :P . On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > widely broadcast and quoted public figure, the words, phrases and > themes you return to can and do have an impact and to deny that is > both stupid and

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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I've totally avoided this topic up til now, with good reason, but now > I have to ask you: > > Do you really think that rhetoric has nothing to do with these sorts > of crimes? Really? That was not the point of most of my arguments. My a

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I'm reminded of an old video of what flying in the future would be like. Specifically, it showed off polarized glass in the windows, and how turning one panel at a right angle to the other panel blocked out the light. I keep wondering if there's a way that I can rotate this panel, so to speak.

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I've totally avoided this topic up til now, with good reason, but now I have to ask you: Do you really think that rhetoric has nothing to do with these sorts of crimes? Really? I've got an uncle, Russ, who is schizophrenic. Classic presentation. He's mellowed out some now that he's hit his 50s,

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> > > Rhetoric had nothing to do with shooting. I never said it did. Part of what problem? > What's happening to American politics. > Being blamed for a shooting without a shred of proof? Lack > of journalistic integrity? Are you sure you're actually replying to me Maybe just another CY

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"Am I wrong?" Yes. Rhetoric had nothing to do with shooting. The guy was crazy. As far as this problem you mention, what is it? Part of what problem? Being blamed for a shooting without a shred of proof? Lack of journalistic integrity? Maybe just another CYA attempt at shifting the subject.

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] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:24 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. I think you have that reversed. Euphemism is when you replace offensive words with softer ones. Unless of course Obama was talking about nuclear war. And why is that

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I think you have that reversed. Euphemism is when you replace offensive words with softer ones. Unless of course Obama was talking about nuclear war. And why is that different form lock and load? . On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > That's called a euphemism...now if he

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That's called a euphemism...now if he would have said lock and load after that, I would agree with you. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:29 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point

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If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Barack Obama, 6/14/2008 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It was by the same person in the same context of the same event. > > It certainly wasn't bring a gun to a gun fight... > ~

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nife fight... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 08:05 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. So now we're going to compare notes of which side said what? Move along.

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It was by the same person in the same context of the same event. It certainly wasn't bring a gun to a gun fight... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 08:01 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the he

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[mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 07:56 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. He didn't say he would do it, he said someone should do it. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I think he s

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No there is a word that Sam is very personally familiar with... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 20:36 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. It's all just a del

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The time for revolution is NOW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYz9sm_7qFE . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > -- > How do you feel about saying: "put him against a wall and shoot him?" > -- ~| Order

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So now we're going to compare notes of which side said what? Move along. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > -- > How do you feel about saying: "put him against a wall and shoot him?" > -- > > How about this...in their own words (thanks Larry ;-) ) > > The day after the T

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You just say shit and expect it to be true? On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Well since it is...yes... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Different people said it and you are taking it totally out of the context of > the convo, where Palin used the gun sights (scope sights like you would see > in a sniper's scope) and "lock and load" and "don't retreat, reload". The map was

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And that there is the problem with the sheeple? . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I think most people outside of Florida never heard that until this came up > as opposed to everyone (except Scott) heard Palin. ~~

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He didn't say he would do it, he said someone should do it. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I think he should have jailed for that...not sure on the specifics, but > isn't making a verbal threat against a gov similar to making against the > pres? ~~

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> Don't make me provide a link to a definition. > > Do it. Check the synonyms. Are those the things in a thesaurus? I wonder why we need so many words for the "same" thing? Why not just use a sin

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No...you are just that far to the right sam...you are so far to the right you are almost on the left. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 18:57 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank

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-- How do you feel about saying: "put him against a wall and shoot him?" -- How about this...in their own words (thanks Larry ;-) ) The day after the Tuscon shooting a commenter on Palin's twitter page said the following: "It's ok. Christina Taylor Green was probably going to end up a left wing

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Well since it is...yes... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:03 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. Has a nice ring to it. Am I supposed to think it's anti-semit

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Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:45 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. It was mentioned on this thread as was the bulls eyes from the DNC as was the bring a gun to a gunfight and on and on. You're horse is stuck on Palin's reload

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the head at point blank range. Lock and Load upset you because Palin said it. But when a Congressman said we should shoot the guy running for Gov of FL rather than elect him, you either ignore it or don't care. . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Medic wrote: > > I'm not sure

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t: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range. How do you feel about saying: "put him against a wall and shoot him?" . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Medic wrote: > > Even if she isn't directly responsible for this event, don't you think > the

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It's all just a delusion. . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Medic wrote: > > Thank you sir for setting me straight. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/143027215

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, denstar wrote: > > Don't make me provide a link to a definition. Do it. Check the synonyms. >>> It's not /that/ complicated.  :) >> >> No, it isn't. > Yes, the Media made it all up.  Nobody brought any guns to any rally. > Nobody is using armed revolution as an

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Still blaming her? . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Yesh I think this particular discussion ran its course when Sam said > he would still see nothing wrong with Palin making similar statements > in the future. ~

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Dude If you don't know you're one of the top three lefties on this list than I hate to be the one to break it to you. You are slightly to the right of Larry, whom also thinks he's in the middle. I can't believe you can't recognize that. Recognizing the problem is the most important step. . On

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Thank you sir for setting me straight. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:38 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Medic wrote: > > > > Naw. I didn't lose track at all. I simply commented that Palin is part of > > the problem, regardless of whether her redonkulous comments caused the >

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Medic wrote: > > Naw. I didn't lose track at all. I simply commented that Palin is part of > the problem, regardless of whether her redonkulous comments caused the > shooting. > Am I wrong? Yes. Because even though Palin has repeatedly used armed revolt as a way

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Naw. I didn't lose track at all. I simply commented that Palin is part of the problem, regardless of whether her redonkulous comments caused the shooting. Am I wrong? On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "You guys are so bloody polarized that you have no concept of what's >

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"You guys are so bloody polarized that you have no concept of what's it's like to be in neither corner" I think you have lost track of the discussion. Rhetoric on the right was blamed for the shooting before the ambulances had left the scene. No one blamed political rhetoric in general, just rh

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As I said before, I had not heard any of those comments from her before this weekend..maybe I _do_ live in a cave. I think it was stupid of her to say them, and I do not condone what she said. Again, my argument was that everyone jumped on the 'its Palin's fault' bandwagon as soon as the shooting

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:51 PM, denstar wrote: ... >> >> Is cause the same thing as incite? > > Yes Don't make me provide a link to a definition. >> It's not /that/ complicated.  :) > > No, it isn't. If you think incite is the same thing as cause

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Yesh I think this particular discussion ran its course when Sam said he would still see nothing wrong with Palin making similar statements in the future. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Co

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Sigh. You guys are so bloody polarized that you have no concept of what's it's like to be in neither corner. I'm not a red or a blue. Me saying Palin's comment is part of the problem doesn't exclude any other stupid comments from ALSO being part of the problem. Me saying something against Palin d

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Don't worry about Jer. I think his shrooms have been kicking in all day long. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > " Don't go 'n' pull the JerryB card, where you equate 3% as being the same > as 33% -- hey, they're both percents, right? "You do it too!" et al." > > What in

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"Even if she isn't directly responsible for this event, don't you think the act of using rhetoric like "don't retreat, reload" makes her part of the overall problem?" Though it has been shown ad nauseum that rhetoric had nothing to do with this moonbat's actions, let's pretend that it is a good q

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" Don't go 'n' pull the JerryB card, where you equate 3% as being the same as 33% -- hey, they're both percents, right? "You do it too!" et al." What in the hell are you talking about? I have never equated 3% to 33% or are you referring to another JerryB? J - We cannot continue to rely only

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:51 PM, denstar wrote: > > Only you are saying that someone else is saying it (me).  Even though > they (I) are not. We're back to: I was just making an unrelated comment that you think is related to the discussion but kinda isn't. >> Are you saying Beck, Rush and Palin

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, denstar wrote: > ... >> Do a google search for "brought guns to the political rally" and see >> if there's a lot of democratic party mentions. > > I saw a lot of people blaming the Tea Party for the shooting in AZ. >

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM, denstar wrote: > Oh yeah, it was liberal radio host who gave out the home address of > that guy that supported health care, and then the house was > vandalized.  Only it was the wrong address or something, right? What are you talking about? Is this something I s

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I lost what? I certainly lost the point you are trying to make. You hit the nail on the head there. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Sam wrote: > > You lost it. Next. > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Medic wrote: > > > > It's not stuck on sh*t Sam. It's all bs. Palin, the DNC, all that

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 12:52 AM, denstar wrote: >> Come now, you know as well as I that the Democrats haven't been as gun >> happy.  Hell, that's one of the memes, right?  The dems & libs will >> take your guns- we want you to bring them to rallies!

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After giving this some more thought..I would support making it illegal for Sarah Palin to speak - at all, regardless of what topic. :D On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, given what has happened, do you support Sarah Palin making > statements like this in the future? > > ~~

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My Name is Betsy. I'm a Killer http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/my_name_is_betsy_im_a_killer.html My name is Betsy. I'm a wife and proud soccer mom, a writer, and small business owner. I'm also a killer. On the morning of January 8th, 2011, I intentionally entered a gathering held by C

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Why do you continue to try and connect what she said with what has happened? There has been no proof that what she said had any influence on this guy, yet you keep insisting there was. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, given what has happened, do you support Sarah Palin ma

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On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Sam wrote: > > Has a nice ring to it. > > Am I supposed to think it's anti-semitic or something? > So you thought it "had a nice ring to it" OK. (Note to self: Quit being curious about what Sam thinks.) ~~

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The first amendment is a beautiful thing. That means yes. . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, given what has happened, do you support Sarah Palin making > statements like this in the future? > > ~| Order

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Has a nice ring to it. Am I supposed to think it's anti-semitic or something? . On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G Money wrote: > > > I'd be curious to know what Sam thought of Palin's use of the phrase "blood > libel". > ~|

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You lost it. Next. On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Medic wrote: > > It's not stuck on sh*t Sam. It's all bs. Palin, the DNC, all that cowboy > bullsh*t is retarded. I simply commented on the one comment because it's the > one I know most about. Also you are coming to her defense, much more so

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