Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Deanna Schneider
We did some of that, too. I always tried to get my pony tail to stand straight out, or to do a unicorn horn thing. Not sure I ever fully managed it. On 6/23/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Deanna wrote: > > with wet heads. The boys loved to tease the girls by running up > > and

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Deanna wrote: > with wet heads. The boys loved to tease the girls by running up > and "snapping" their frozen hair. The ice on the hair breaks, but the > hair remains intact. > LOL! Former (and current) swimmer. We'd try to see who could come up with the coolest frozen hairdo. There were

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Doom
Well, I'm definately exaggerating about half my moustache being missing, but I have had hair come out when it's cold. I think the weight of the ice, where it had built up from my foggy breath, was just too much for the folicles. I've also snapped frozen wet hair before, but it was where the hair

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread loathe
You must be great fun at parties huh? Deanna Schneider wrote: > That doesn't really happen, you know. We used to have to walk to the > high school for swimming class. Of course, that meant walking back > with wet heads. The boys loved to tease the girls by running up > and "snapping" their fro

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Tony Weeg
POLL: How many people have trouble trusting anyone with a mustache? Tony On 6/23/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's what you get for having a mustache. :) > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Deanna Schneider
That doesn't really happen, you know. We used to have to walk to the high school for swimming class. Of course, that meant walking back with wet heads. The boys loved to tease the girls by running up and "snapping" their frozen hair. The ice on the hair breaks, but the hair remains intact. On

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ray Champagne
That's what you get for having a mustache. :) Ben Doom wrote: > Ah, I remember those cold winter mornings in St. Paul where I'd reach up > to scratch my nose and OH MY GOD I JUST BROKE OFF HALF MY MUSTACHE! > > Yep. That's cold. > > --Ben > > Deanna Schneider wrote: > >>I know it's cold wh

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Doom
Ah, I remember those cold winter mornings in St. Paul where I'd reach up to scratch my nose and OH MY GOD I JUST BROKE OFF HALF MY MUSTACHE! Yep. That's cold. --Ben Deanna Schneider wrote: > I know it's cold when my nose hair freezes within 2 steps of my front > door. Brrr, chilly. > > Tony, c

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I grew up in Manitoba - part of it in northern Manitoba. People used to go to Minneapolis in the winter for the warmer climate. Or so it seemed. btw -40 plus may not seem cold - you're just too numb to notice. larry On 6/23/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry wrote: > > Spoken li

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ray Champagne
It's pretty bad here in Northern New England too. Up until a year ago, I walked to work with my dog every day. It got damn chilly out there some mornings. After a while, though, Gruss is right. You just get used to it. Not naked swimming in an ice fishing hole sort of used to it, but it is

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread G
Why is it tacky and tasteless? If you have 100 little flags all over, that's one thing, but a single, simple, small display of the American flag on a button or a bumper sticker...what's tasteless about that? How it is displayed or worn can affect it of course...but in and of itself, I don't see

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Deanna Schneider
I know it's cold when my nose hair freezes within 2 steps of my front door. Brrr, chilly. Tony, come on up to the midwest in about January/February. We'll see how much of that Vicking blood is still flowing. On 6/23/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry wrote: > > Spoken like someon

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
i wont burn a flag, if you dont make it into a a buper sticker... i hate seeing the mini flags on every ones cube/pod here at work. i think it is tacky & tastless. if you want to feel patriatic, do some thinng for the troops like sending them good video games & smokes. a flag on your pod or car i

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > Spoken like someone who's never been near the arctic circle. > > -20 is cold. -40 is painful. -70 is obscene. > I grew up in MN and have been in all of those temps and I can say this: >From 40^F to 20^F seems COLD! Then you get used to it. >From 20^F to 0^F seems COLD! Then

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Tony Weeg
:) nope, never. but my peeps have... years ago. Vikings (root word Vig) <--- my original last name = Vig we know cold! tw ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.hou

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Spoken like someone who's never been near the arctic circle. -20 is cold. -40 is painful. -70 is obscene. When I was 22, I spent a year on Baffin Island in the arctic, that experience taught me the treal meaning of cold. Anything you get in this area (NOVA/MD/DC) isn't cold. larry On 6/23/05, T

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Tony Weeg
no, but i'd love to! im norwegian man, nothing is cold to me! tw On 6/23/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You've never curled on an outdoor rink when its about 20 below 0. > > If you go through almost any small town in the prairie provinces, > besides the grain elevators, the mos

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You've never curled on an outdoor rink when its about 20 below 0. If you go through almost any small town in the prairie provinces, besides the grain elevators, the most prominent things you'll see are the curling rinks and the hockey rinks. It seems that no matter how small the town is, those tw

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Tony Weeg
if you played golf your perspective would change 1% and to that end... i think curling was/is the best event this past olympics... well, next to snowboarding :) tw On 6/23/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Curling, the only sport that's more boring than golf. The only way to >

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Curling, the only sport that's more boring than golf. The only way to play it without getting bored to tears is to play completely drunk. Being drunk also helps to prevent you from getting frostbite - alcohol has a lower freezing point than water. larry On 6/23/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Yes and the players are mostly non-American. Look at it this way, at least you'd have a credible Olympic or junior world cup hockey team. larry On 6/23/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > umm silly canuck, we have hockey. > > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > and back bacon. and lets not forget a

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Raymond Camden
Thanks for that quote. I'll have to remember it. :) On 6/23/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it was Jon Stewart who said: > I was totally against gay marriage from the start. Then I found out it > was optional. > > --Ben > ==

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> loathe wrote: > umm silly canuck, we have hockey. > Yeah, curling too, eh. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Me

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread loathe
umm silly canuck, we have hockey. Larry C. Lyons wrote: > and back bacon. and lets not forget a real sport - hockey! > > larry > > On 6/23/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Look on the bright side. At least we'd have good beer. >> >>--Ben >> >>loathe wrote: >> >>>OMG it couldn't have

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and back bacon. and lets not forget a real sport - hockey! larry On 6/23/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look on the bright side. At least we'd have good beer. > > --Ben > > loathe wrote: > > OMG it couldn't have been that bad could it? > > > > LOL > > > > Tim > > > > Larry C. Lyons

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Doom
Gruss Gott wrote: >>Ben wrote: >>Under certiain circumstances, burning the flag is both appropriate and >>respectful. > > Yeah, the proposed Constitutional Amendment specifies "desecration" > and not just burning. Presumably what you point out would not be > desecration but who knows? Your honor

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
You should check the referenced vidoe - it's very pertinent to what you wrote :) Howie --- On Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:19 AM, Gruss Gott scribed: --- > >> Howie wrote: >> Argh - you "hitlered" the thread! >> >> Check the "Relatively Closer Look: Hitler Reference" >> > > Sorry - however I did

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ben wrote: > Under certiain circumstances, burning the flag is both appropriate and > respectful. Yeah, the proposed Constitutional Amendment specifies "desecration" and not just burning. Presumably what you point out would not be desecration but who knows? > I can't count the number of times

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Doom
I think it was Jon Stewart who said: I was totally against gay marriage from the start. Then I found out it was optional. --Ben Raymond Camden wrote: > I think all people who are against flag burning should demonstrate > their feelings by going out into the streets and not burning flags. > Those

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Doom
Look on the bright side. At least we'd have good beer. --Ben loathe wrote: > OMG it couldn't have been that bad could it? > > LOL > > Tim > > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >>On 6/23/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>You know what man, I used to agree with you completely, but I mean st

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Raymond wrote: > I think all people who are against flag burning should demonstrate > their feelings by going out into the streets and not burning flags. Well that's just it - has there been a rash of flag desecration lately? No. And the Supreme Court has already ruled on it, so It's a non-fac

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Doom
A pat on the back for you, Gruss, even though you invoked Hitler. :-) I'll just add one thing to this: Under certiain circumstances, burning the flag is both appropriate and respectful. Flags, according to tradition, should be burned or buried when they become worn or too dirty to clean well. T

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Howie wrote: > Argh - you "hitlered" the thread! > > Check the "Relatively Closer Look: Hitler Reference" > Sorry - however I didn't call anyone Hitler. I guess if I really wanted to go for broke I'd say, "Howie, you damn Hitler!" ~

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Raymond Camden
I think all people who are against flag burning should demonstrate their feelings by going out into the streets and not burning flags. Those against gay marriage should go out and not marry someone of the same sex. Etc. ;) And yes - I agree - I'm sure the soldier in Iraq are very concerned about t

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Eric Carlisle
I don't like to see it happen, but I'm going to respect the right to protest - even if I think the protester is an idiot. Eric Gruss Gott wrote: >I'll grant you it's disturbing, but here's the problem: If you ban >flag "desecration" you're elevating a symbol of the state to revered >status.

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Howie Hamlin
Argh - you "hitlered" the thread! Check the "Relatively Closer Look: Hitler Reference" http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml --- On Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:20 AM, Gruss Gott scribed: --- > > > Also keep in mind the company we'd be in: Hitler, Mussoli

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread loathe
OMG it couldn't have been that bad could it? LOL Tim Larry C. Lyons wrote: > On 6/23/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>You know what man, I used to agree with you completely, but I mean stop >>and think about it. Where would we be today if the colonists had not >>shown their discontent

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
On 6/23/05, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You know what man, I used to agree with you completely, but I mean stop > and think about it. Where would we be today if the colonists had not > shown their discontent with and resentment of the crown? Um Canada? ~~~

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread loathe
here here :) Gruss Gott wrote: >>Tony wrote: >>im sorry, but im wholly against burning the flag. >>free speech has a line, and for me it stops at the first stripe! >> > > > I'll grant you it's disturbing, but here's the problem: If you ban > flag "desecration" you're elevating a symbol of the

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread G
+1. Well stated. > > I'll grant you it's disturbing, but here's the problem: If you ban > flag "desecration" you're elevating a symbol of the state to revered > status. The beauty of the American flag is that it stands for freedom > - a moron can burn a thousand of them and what it stands f

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread loathe
You know what man, I used to agree with you completely, but I mean stop and think about it. Where would we be today if the colonists had not shown their discontent with and resentment of the crown? I'm not saying we need another revolution right now, but we're in a pretty bad place in this nat

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> im sorry, but im wholly against burning the flag. > free speech has a line, and for me it stops at the first > stripe! > tony so in other words you don't believe in free speech. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the on

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Tony wrote: > im sorry, but im wholly against burning the flag. > free speech has a line, and for me it stops at the first stripe! > I'll grant you it's disturbing, but here's the problem: If you ban flag "desecration" you're elevating a symbol of the state to revered status. The beauty of t

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Wrap it in a double layer of foil, put it on your engine block and drive about 100 miles. It should be nicely roasted. larry On 6/23/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > G wrote: > > You smoke meat in the middle of a public street? > > > > > Sure, you've got to get roadkill cooked ASA

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Ray Champagne
G wrote: > You smoke meat in the middle of a public street? > Sure, you've got to get roadkill cooked ASAP, or it'll go bad! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread G
You smoke meat in the middle of a public street? If a cop drives buy, and i'm out lighting something on fire in the middle of my city street...he can't stop and write me a ticket for something??? > If it is then every smoker has been breaking the law. > > larry > > On 6/23/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If it is then every smoker has been breaking the law. larry On 6/23/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well i think it is a crock of shit..but i have a question: Isn't > lighting something on fire in a public streetagainst the law anyway? No > matter what it is? > > > > So the Supreme C

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Tony Weeg
im sorry, but im wholly against burning the flag. free speech has a line, and for me it stops at the first stripe! tony On 6/23/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well i think it is a crock of shit..but i have a question: Isn't > lighting something on fire in a public streetagainst the la

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread G
Well i think it is a crock of shit..but i have a question: Isn't lighting something on fire in a public streetagainst the law anyway? No matter what it is? > So the Supreme Court says it's legal, but House Republicans are > deciding to play politics and trying to create some type of pat

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Yes there are, but the flag burning issue and the proposed amendment is a wonderful distractor from all those other issues. So by pushing this issue, I wonder what the republicans are trying to keep out of the public's eye. larry On 6/23/05, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I completely

Re: Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-23 Thread Adam Haskell
I completely agree, I can't beleive it passed through the house...aren't there more pressing issues than the flag burning? Adam On 6/22/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So the Supreme Court says it's legal, but House Republicans are > deciding to play politics and trying to create so

Flag Burning - One More TIME!

2005-06-22 Thread Gruss Gott
So the Supreme Court says it's legal, but House Republicans are deciding to play politics and trying to create some type of patriotic litmus test that they can point at during the next election. Is flag "desecration" really a problem? No. It's insulting to our troops that our legislators are spe