Re: Huge Antarctic ice sheet collapsing - Technology & Science - CBC News

2014-05-13 Thread Sam
He continues to write the Dot Earth blog, which has movedfrom the news side of The Times to the Opinion section. This is presented as proof that AGW is destroying the earth yet in reality this was on ongoing issue and has nothing to do

Re: Huge Antarctic ice sheet collapsing - Technology & Science - CBC News

2014-05-13 Thread Vivec
This isn't the new york times, this is a blogger's opinion. At any rate, they did say that the 10 foot rise would occur over centuries. “This new study illustrates once more that the collapse of West Antarctica and parts of East Antarctica is not a myth,” he said. “It happened many times b

Re: Huge Antarctic ice sheet collapsing - Technology & Science - CBC News

2014-05-13 Thread Sam
Even the NY Times is laughing at this one: Tweet: Awful misuse of "Collapse" in headlines on centuries-long ice loss in W. Antarctica. See rates in papers. Same as '09 http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/18/study-west-antarctic-melt-a-slow-affair/?_php=true&_type=blog

Huge Antarctic ice sheet collapsing - Technology & Science - CBC News

2014-05-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/huge-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapsing-1.2639989?cmp=rss presented without comment. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag

Re: Arctic sea ice. Why climate change deniers are spreading nonsense..

2013-09-27 Thread Sam
Straw man anyone? The arctic ice was predicted to be gone by 2016. Last year was proof of that. This year we have the largest ice recovery in 35 years. You still think it will be free of ice in 3 years? . On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > http://www.slate.

Arctic sea ice. Why climate change deniers are spreading nonsense..

2013-09-27 Thread Vivec
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/20/arctic_sea_ice_what_s_really_going_on.html As I've been writing about all week, a lot of baloney misinformation is being spread about the ice at the north pole<https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
Sep 10, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing that >> Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is not >> warming bu

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-13 Thread Sam
t; > > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Vivec wrote: > > > >> > >> Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing > that > >> Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is > not > >> warming

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-10 Thread Sam
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing that > Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is not > warming but cooling. > Common sense would agree. More Ice means cooling, l

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-10 Thread Vivec
Over the last few days several news articles have emerged announcing that Arctic sea ice is growing, not shrinking, and therefore the climate is not warming but cooling. This is not the result of scientific data disagreeing, this is simply poor journalism. Phil Plait<https://www.facebook.

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
wonder how long it will take before a link to wattsupwiththat.com is presented as a retort. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/10/climate_change_sea_ice_global_cooling_and_other_nonsense.html > > > ~~~

Re: Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-10 Thread Sam
No need, it's Slate. Did you read it? He says these Jaw dropping claims may be misleading. Global warming religious nutters make me laugh. . On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > wonder how long it will take before a link to wattsupwiththa

Climate change: Sea ice, global cooling, and other nonsense

2013-09-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/09/10/climate_change_sea_ice_global_cooling_and_other_nonsense.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=h

Re: Cool – Apple’s iPad Gives Autistic Children a Vo ice i

2013-08-16 Thread Sam
Sorry, I tried to be a fanboy. Just can't do it. . On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > pure cynicism, why am I not surprised I think I'm going to have a heart > attack and die from not surprised. > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > > Did they mean

Re: Cool – Apple’s iPad Gives Autistic Children a Vo ice in_

2013-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
pure cynicism, why am I not surprised I think I'm going to have a heart attack and die from not surprised. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Sam wrote: > > Did they mean tablet or even cell phone? Sounds like an advertisement. > > . > > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Larry C. Lyons >wro

Re: Cool – Apple’s iPad Gives Autistic Children a Vo ice in Ca

2013-08-16 Thread Sam
Did they mean tablet or even cell phone? Sounds like an advertisement. . On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.idgconnect.com/blog-abstract/2926/apple-ipad-gives-autistic-children-voice-canada > > > ~

Cool – Apple’s iPad Gives Autistic Children a Vo ice in Cana

2013-08-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.idgconnect.com/blog-abstract/2926/apple-ipad-gives-autistic-children-voice-canada ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Ice Ice Baby, sung by 280 different movie clips

2013-07-24 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
wrote: > > Speechless: > http://fox4kc.com/2013/07/23/ice-ice-baby-mashup-with-280-movie-clips/ > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?ta

Ice Ice Baby, sung by 280 different movie clips

2013-07-24 Thread GMoney
Speechless: http://fox4kc.com/2013/07/23/ice-ice-baby-mashup-with-280-movie-clips/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http

Re: Accelerating Ice Sheet Melt Is Raising Sea Levels, Says New Study Accurately Reported By Wall Street Journal

2013-06-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
"That's such terrible science I can't even believe you think it's true. It's definitely not worth rebutting." No problem. Global Warming is such terrible science, I can't believe anyone thinks it true. To each their own. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad repu

Re: Accelerating Ice Sheet Melt Is Raising Sea Levels, Says New Study Accurately Reported By Wall Street Journal

2013-06-05 Thread Sam
Smart move. . On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > That's such terrible science I can't even believe you think it's true. > It's definitely not worth rebutting. > > -Cameron > > ... > > ~| Order the A

Re: Accelerating Ice Sheet Melt Is Raising Sea Levels, Says New Study Accurately Reported By Wall Street Journal

2013-06-05 Thread Cameron Childress
That's such terrible science I can't even believe you think it's true. It's definitely not worth rebutting. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/143027215

Re: Accelerating Ice Sheet Melt Is Raising Sea Levels, Says New Study Accurately Reported By Wall Street Journal

2013-06-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
Greenland ice melt overestimated due to satellite data algorithm issue: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/21/greenland-ice-melt-overestimated-due-to-satellite-data-algorithm-issue/ Or NASA’s claim that Greenland is experiencing “unprecedented” melting is nothing but a bunch of hot air

Accelerating Ice Sheet Melt Is Raising Sea Levels, Says New Study Accurately Reported By Wall Street Journal

2013-06-05 Thread Cameron Childress
"Is it big news that “Rising Sea Level Tied to Faster Melt,” as the Wall Street Journalreported today? Back in 2011, JPL researchers concluded that polar ice sheet mass loss is speeding up, threatening a 1 foot sea level rise by 2050. Last year, the most comprehensive analysis o

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-25 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:22 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > >> >> "Overprocessed hate fuckfest" has a nice ring to it for an icecream >> flavor, no? >> > > They could call it "Jersey Shore-bert" Dude. Don't give them ideas. ~~~

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-25 Thread GMoney
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > "Overprocessed hate fuckfest" has a nice ring to it for an icecream > flavor, no? > They could call it "Jersey Shore-bert" ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Judah McAuley
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:07 PM, GMoney wrote: > >> This is America dudehome of the fat. The only time we're not eating ice >> cream is when we're eating potato chips. We take this shit seriousl

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
or the so so meh variety? On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:07 PM, GMoney wrote: > >> This is America dudehome of the fat. The only time we're not eating ice >> cream is when we're eating potato chi

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:07 PM, GMoney wrote: > This is America dudehome of the fat. The only time we're not eating ice > cream is when we're eating potato chips. We take this shit seriously. Is this the organic "I fucking hate you" ice cream or the overprocesse

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
3 seconds with a knife, end of lock problem. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:07 PM, GMoney wrote: > > This is America dudehome of the fat. The only time we're not eating ice > cream is when we're eating potato chips. We take this shit seriously. > > On Thu, May 24, 2012

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
cheap steak knife + spoon @ local thrift store, $.50. (since the sides and bottom are paper) On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Crap, meant to post the shortened link, my bad. > > http://bit.ly/KlCEfX > > Cheers, > Judah > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Judah McAuley

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Crap, meant to post the shortened link, my bad. http://bit.ly/KlCEfX Cheers, Judah On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > $6.64 at their online store. > > http://commerce.workflowoneaccess.com/UI/Customer.aspx?p=productview&catid=57Zy4CdECtYPxovNvvvTya8eUphjln-s62OW4x3AL03ymDd

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Judah McAuley
$6.64 at their online store. http://commerce.workflowoneaccess.com/UI/Customer.aspx?p=productview&catid=57Zy4CdECtYPxovNvvvTya8eUphjln-s62OW4x3AL03ymDdifZ47HwA-e-e&catinteropID=01-07037672-Misc&productID=C2d-pkm3uiyIHafblG-sYLxFFG-sD5WkNnzdfuzrMLV-pIud-pkWrRPuOwQ-e-e&ProductInteropID=01-07034448-

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread GMoney
This is America dudehome of the fat. The only time we're not eating ice cream is when we're eating potato chips. We take this shit seriously. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Vivec wrote: > > They for real wit this? lol! > Is that really a problem

Re: Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Vivec
They for real wit this? lol! Is that really a problem in many households? :) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.hous

Ben and Jerry's helps you foil ice cream thieves

2012-05-24 Thread Judah McAuley
They introduce the Euphori-Lock, a combination lock for your B&J pints so no one can get into your chubby hubby stash. http://www.portlandfoodanddrink.com/ben-jerrys-euphori-lock-targets-ice-cream-thieves/ Cheers, J

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Sam
years Nope. But it is at a high point > * 10 of warmest years in modern times have occurred in the last 11 years Modern times meaning last 50 then true. Otherwise false. > * arctic and Antarctic ice is melting at unprecedented rates and > accelerating.  Ice that was measured at

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Gruss Gott
The thing with global warming is we're dealing with 2 concepts humans don't get: acceleration and weather. "warming" just means more energy to the climate. Nobody knows if that means more ice here and less there. What we do know is that it'll mean accelerating global

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Gruss Gott
Antarctic ice is melting at unprecedented rates and accelerating. Ice that was measured at millions of years old is now melted. E.g., the northwest passage is open. It's getting warmer, period. Whether that will kill us in 5 years, 50 years, or 500 years is not known nor predictable.

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Sam
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Science is a continual journey of discovery. We should act in prudence in > our time given what we know now, but we should never refuse to reconsider > that which we hold today to be truth. > > Those who preach that the science is clear, and tha

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Yes, but why that is happening is predicted by the consensus AGW model. Less ice in the arctic, sea warms up a bit then that creates warmer air that is trapped near the surface. That diverts the arctic air streams towards Europe. I'll have to dig up the news article about that. On Fri, F

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/08/glaciers-mountains?intcmp=122 > > Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less than previously estimated, but > lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and gl

Re: The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread GMoney
, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/08/glaciers-mountains?intcmp=122 > > Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less than previously estimated, but > lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the wo

The Himalayas and nearby peaks have lost no ice in past 10 years, study shows

2012-02-10 Thread Cameron Childress
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/08/glaciers-mountains?intcmp=122 Meltwater from Asia's peaks is much less than previously estimated, but lead scientist says the loss of ice caps and glaciers around the world remains a serious co

Re: Think we are headed for a new ice Age? You're Wrong...

2012-01-30 Thread Gruss Gott
The problem with the article is the ice on the globe. It's going away which you can visually watch. So it's pretty hilarious to state otherwise ... " oh, uh, you mean that ice? Well ... You see that ice faked some emails ... And al gore flies in a jet ... And liberals and

Think we are headed for a new ice Age? You're Wrong...

2012-01-30 Thread Vivec
http://gizmodo.com/5880458/think-were-headed-for-a-new-ice-age-youre-wrong "Sure, the Maunder Minimum itself is widely linked to the Little Ice Age. Newspapers like the Daily Mail love to claim that this is exactly what's going to happen again. The problem with the argument, howeve

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ation Grizzly >> >> bears are mating with Polar bears. The offspring end up bigger and >> >> meaner than either. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Scott Stewart >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > no.. that wa

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Medic
ewart > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > no.. that was me I had a little too much to drink on Saturday :) > >> > > >> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> &g

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > Aren't large bubbles of methane in consideration for the loss of some > shipping in the Bermuda Triangle? > I've recently seen an online special about a lake in Africa that gurgled up some methane and killed 1,700+ people. In the lon

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Aren't large bubbles of methane in consideration for the loss of some shipping in the Bermuda Triangle? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > "Dramatic and unprecedented plumes of methane – a greenhouse gas 20 times >

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Sam
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Thing is that Sam seems to have a vested interest in towing the > Rethugliklan line. It's the common sense line. But you go ahead and shout the sky is falling ... yet again. . ~

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > "Dramatic and unprecedented plumes of methane – a greenhouse gas 20 times > more potent than carbon dioxide – have been seen bubbling to the surface of > the Arctic Ocean by scientists undertaking an extensive survey of the > region. Two question

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It also fits with the data coming from the Canadian arctic as well. Same results according to recent geophysical surveys. Thing is that Sam seems to have a vested interest in towing the Rethugliklan line. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Vivec wrote: > > So the Russian research team is lying w

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It depends, in BC people are hurt or killed by grizzlies regularly Its hard to say whether they were actively hunted but that's how I would bet. Whenever I'm back in the area and hiking I make sure I have extra bear spray (a very strong version of pepper spray). On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM,

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Vivec
So the Russian research team is lying when they say that it's higher than it has been for 20 years and on a scale not seen before? That's a lie... It's just a normal release of methane and it's nothing to worry about then? On 14 December 2011 11:32, Sam wrote: > > Shocking. This has been going

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Sam
Shocking. This has been going on for so long but now that global warming is a known hoax we need new scare tactics. Nice try. . On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-ice-releases-

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > both grizzlies and polar bears still consider people as prey. Given > that I've seen these bears tear into heavily reinforced buildings, I > don't think it will be the least of the worries. But its one thing of > many. > POlar bears yeah

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Ras Tafari
im more concerned about RepublicanBearPig's than those. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Medic wrote: > >> >> Ha. Somehow I think this is the very least of our worries. >> > > I'm more concerned about ManBearPig > > And i'm super serious. > >

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ad a little too much to drink on Saturday :) >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-ice-releases-deadly-green

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Medic wrote: > > Ha. Somehow I think this is the very least of our worries. > I'm more concerned about ManBearPig And i'm super serious. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://ww

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Medic
t; > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-ice-releases-deadly-greenhouse-gas-6276134.html > >> > >> Looks like that

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > no.. that was me I had a little too much to drink on Saturday :) > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > >> >> >> http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-i

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Stewart
no.. that was me I had a little too much to drink on Saturday :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-ice-releases-deadly-greenhouse-gas-6276134.html > > Looks like that mu

Re: Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not surprised. just wait until all that methane trapped in the permafrost in Canada and Russia starts bubbling up. That will be much much worse. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-ice-re

Shock as the retreat of Arctic ice releases enormous amounts of deadly methane.

2011-12-14 Thread Vivec
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/shock-as-retreat-of-arctic-sea-ice-releases-deadly-greenhouse-gas-6276134.html Looks like that much talked about chain reaction is starting. "Dramatic and unprecedented plumes of methane – a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent than c

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Robert Munn wrote: > > > > There is some sort of secret war going on involving these technologies. > > That's why the weather is so screwed up. Climate change is the cover > story. > > > > 8-o > Indeed. ~

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > > There is some sort of secret war going on involving these technologies. > That's why the weather is so screwed up. Climate change is the cover story. > 8-o ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! htt

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Munn
These folks have a 3.6 GW weaponized directed-energy beam system that is theoretically capable of punching a hole in the ionosphere. It's not like kids playing stick-ball. And they understand enough about how these things work to be able to create and steer storms. Tornadoes and earthquakes, too,

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > >> Actually we can't.  We attempt extrapolations of observed activity, >> but we can't predict with quality or accuracy. > > We can indeed control the weather to some extent. That is one of the > purposes of HAARP. Check out this giant directional energy beam that starts > th

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Munn
And this one, the video of the original beam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaeexagsPJU There is a good shot of the beam at 5:10 or so. On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> >> Robert Munn wrote: >> > >> >> Nope, n

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Munn
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Robert Munn wrote: > > > >> Nope, nobody knows. If they did know then we could predict, maybe > >> even control, the weather. We can't. QED. > > > > yes we can. > > > > Actually we can't. We attempt extrapolations of observed activity,

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-19 Thread Gruss Gott
Robert Munn wrote: > >> Nope, nobody knows.  If they did know then we could predict, maybe >> even control, the weather.  We can't.  QED. > > yes we can. > Actually we can't. We attempt extrapolations of observed activity, but we can't predict with quality or accuracy. Even just to model our o

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-18 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Nope, nobody knows. If they did know then we could predict, maybe > even control, the weather. We can't. QED. > yes we can. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology n

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-18 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > > Just because *you* don't know what these things mean doesn't mean that > others don't. Please stop that, thanks. > Nope, nobody knows. If they did know then we could predict, maybe even control, the weather. We can't. QED.

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-17 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Just because *you* don't know what these things mean doesn't mean that > others don't. Please stop that, thanks. > > Judah Because *you* don't know, means others could be hide things from you. ~~~

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-17 Thread William Bowen
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/06/17/are-we-headed-for-a-new-ice-age/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BadAstronomyBlog+%28Bad+Astronomy%29 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Earth may be headed into a mini Ic

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-17 Thread Robert Munn
bsorbing an increasing about of energy ("global > warming"), we have no idea what the effect would be. It could mean > higher land-level temperatures, it could mean lower temperatures or an > ice age, could mean more frequent a

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-17 Thread Judah McAuley
noes irrupting and >> bringing with it the next ice ag" >> >> In that case, the argument over global warming and cooling becomes very >> trivial. >> > > Although they may be the same thing or both happening at the same > time.  I've always been baffled

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-17 Thread Sam
Gott wrote: > > The facts are that we know ice caps are melting amongst other things > and we don't know why.  Never will.  But we should take steps to > compensate for multiple risks, prioritizing them by probability even > if the uncertainty around tho

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-17 Thread Gruss Gott
Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Or the magnetic poles shift which leads to super volcanoes irrupting and > bringing with it the next ice ag" > > In that case, the argument over global warming and cooling becomes very > trivial. > Although they may be the same thing or

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Or the magnetic poles shift which leads to super volcanoes irrupting and bringing with it the next ice ag" In that case, the argument over global warming and cooling becomes very trivial. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry

RE: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Eric Roberts
afari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 01:10 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade the new pro-air SUCKS On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > What inhalers are you using?  I have never had one clog u

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Ras Tafari
c > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Chris Stoner wrote: >> >> I sure hope there is a mini-ice age.  I have asthma and the CFC ban >> made it so I have to use an inferior inhaler that clogs up all the >> time and barely works when it isn't clogged.  If I die of >&g

RE: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Eric Roberts
What inhalers are you using? I have never had one clog up in the 10 years that I have been an asthmatic... You should try a nebulizer...in my experience, they are more effective. Eric On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Chris Stoner wrote: > > I sure hope there is a mini-ice age.  I have

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Ras Tafari
u, isnt this happening now? the shift that is... On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: > Or the magnetic poles shift which leads to super volcanoes irrupting > and bringing with it the next ice ag ~|

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Casey Dougall
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Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Ras Tafari
plus like a million and fucking four hundred and twenty thousand!! hate these new ones. hate. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Chris Stoner wrote: > > I sure hope there is a mini-ice age.  I have asthma and the CFC ban made it > so I have to use an inferior inhaler that clogs u

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Chris Stoner
I sure hope there is a mini-ice age. I have asthma and the CFC ban made it so I have to use an inferior inhaler that clogs up all the time and barely works when it isn't clogged. If I die of asphyxiation, I want my body rocketed up to help plug the holes in the ozone layer so mayb

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
nyway, it there is a mini-ice age, I predict that it will be followed by an extended period of global warming. J - Not only have intellectuals been insulated from material consequences, they have often enjoyed immunity from even a loss of reputation after having been demonstrably wrong - Thoma

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-16 Thread G Money
ng us about the Sun's climate activity? I'm starting to think that everybody is just guessing about everything! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade > > Excerpt: > > What may be the science st

Re: Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-15 Thread Vivec
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Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade

2011-06-15 Thread Jerry Barnes
Earth may be headed into a mini Ice Age within a decade Excerpt: What may be the science story of the century is breaking this evening, as heavyweight US solar physicists announce that the Sun appears to be headed into a lengthy spell of low activity, which could mean that the Earth – far from

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: >> I asked you what you though the World should do about it, >> and you have yet to answer.  To be clear, I'm asking you what YOU >> think the World should do about global climate change. > > Doesn't matter, you refuse to listen > I'm listening. What do you propose the world do abou

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Sam
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > To catch you up, you said you agreed that climate change was > happening. Yep, it gets hotter, then it gets colder or v v. > I asked you what you though the World should do about it, > and you have yet to answer.  To be clear, I'm asking yo

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > We just witnessed the Copenhagen circus? To catch you up, you said you agreed that climate change was happening. I asked you what you though the World should do about it, and you have yet to answer. To be clear, I'm asking you what YOU think the World should do about global clima

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Sam
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > My paper is empty because you're offered nothing, just said some vague > things about global politics. Or is it ADD? > You need to have a global proposal and so far yours is "nothing". > Now, shifting to the off-topic points you made ... W

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > > How about you listen this time and maybe even write it down because > I've told you ten times already. > My paper is empty because you're offered nothing, just said some vague things about global politics. You need to have a global proposal and so far yours is "nothing". Now, sh

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Medic
I don't hate him. I just think he was one of the worst things to happen to the world since the crusades. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > Just trying to point out you hate him so much you don't even realize > the good he's done. > > I'm not claiming he's great on the environmen

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Sam
Just trying to point out you hate him so much you don't even realize the good he's done. I'm not claiming he's great on the environment, just wise enough to not fall for the shell game you refer to as saving the planet. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Medic wrote: > > I don't look down my nos

Re: the mini Ice Age starts here

2010-01-12 Thread Medic
I don't look down my nose at you because I don't think you're clever. I look down my nose at you because your nose is buried up GWB's backside. Leave it up to you to inject a bit of comedy into a climate change discussion by saying that GWB is the greatest thing to happen to environmentalism since

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