Also something else to consider about wireless. Over the last couple of years
the telcos and cable companies have been able to squash the municipal wireless
experiments. Look what happened with Philadelphia's efforts. The telcos managed
to get a law pushed through the state legislature banning a
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And who owns the last mile? Its the cable or phone companies.
Yes.
Oh, and the wireless companies too.
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And who owns the last mile? Its the cable or phone companies. So any real
competition is squashed almost immediately. As I said, in effect its an
unregulated monopoly, the antithesis of a free market.
>Cable companies everywhere are a monopoly for sure, but that's going
>to end at some point as
This took even LESS time than I thought.
AT&T announced that it is now looking into Per Usage pricing.
Instead of doing across the board upgrades, which only benefits certain users.
Of course, if the bandwidth and capacity were there, then services
would launch and expand to fill the void, and th
** Private ** wrote:
> I'm not sure... but the concept of "we'll slow you down to make it fair if
> we need too" seems inherently a better plan than "we'll track you
> (regardless of how you affect other users) and start quietly charging you if
> you head over a limit".
Quietly is never a good ide
And bada-bing: silver lining.
Plus, we're kinda sticking it to China with our weak dollar, neh?
Go Team Venture-- er, America!
Ever wonder why we put direction on the globe? East, West, Up and
Down? Yet we're just sorta spinning in space (on a plane, sorta tho,
so-- eh...). That always tickle
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Scott
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the moment I am reaping the rewards of a weak and I mean extremly weak
> green back, and all that means to me is huge savings and not about time
> either.
Here in the USA, we are totally thrilled that you are enjoying bu
LOL...
No I mean really LOL
Or should that be LOL, LOL, ROTFLMAO
Seriously, here in Australia we have for many years. And I will repeat it
again, for many years we habe suffered or lacked the ability to compete with
the USA plans.
Now that the Australian dollar is so strong against the greenb
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:48 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Internet Use in the US takes further steps backward.
>
> ** Private ** wrote:
> > Comcast's "throttling
Cable companies everywhere are a monopoly for sure, but that's going
to end at some point as video over IP becomes more and more
widespread. Just like Vonage is starting to take market share from
phone companies.
The real problem will be who owns the physical wires - though that may
become obsole
** Private ** wrote:
> Comcast's "throttling" approach (currently being tested in one city) seems
> to be more reasonable: make sure the heavy users aren't affecting others,
> but don't actually enforce any transfer limits.
I wouldn't be so sure it is more reasonable without knowing exactly how it
>Yup. I switched to Verizon DSL a while back and have been happy with the
>switch overall. I pay less, dropped cable along with it, and haven't cared
>one bit since. Calling them again today actually because word is, they offer
>7meg download connections now to residential customers. Woot Woot.
T
>There there really isn't competition for DSL (if it's unavailable). I
>am definitely a very big proponent of competition. Fair competition
>is what drives a free market. I guess I just thought it was pretty
>open, when maybe it isn't in all areas.
>
The problem is that in a lot of places there
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know that sounds great and all that, but in a lot of areas Time Warner
> is the only provider.
Guess I haven't lived in those areas. Actually, if I found that out
about an area before moving, I wouldn't move there. Not
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Who cares? Just don't use Time Warner for your internet connection. I
> mean, I may be in the minority here, but I haven't lived anywhere in
> the past 6 or 7 years (5 different locations in 2 different states)
> that
You know that sounds great and all that, but in a lot of areas Time Warner is
the only provider. Moreover in a lot of places where there is DSL in
competition, many houses are too far away for the CO. In these situations where
there is an effective monopoly, there should be a greater degree of r
The problem here is that other providers are silent.
Contrast this to Canada.
These providers are silent because they are looking at Time Warner as a test
case, to attempt to do the same thing.
TW is trying to set a precedent, and the others are looking on and if it
works out they are going to do t
i care, i'm too far from the switch for dsl and tw is my only option.
however, i sucked it up long ago and got a business connection. i was going
to dump it in favor of the standard, but now i might as well keep my five
static ip addresses.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Cameron C wrote:
>
> Who
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Comcast's "throttling" approach (currently being tested in one city) seems
B!
Seriously, big money has hurt us so many times... I guess we deserve
it since we let it happen, or something like that...
Wow. Philoso
> -Original Message-
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Internet Use in the US takes further steps backward.
>
> The country that is already trailing the rest of the developed world in
>
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Who cares? Just don't use Time Warner for your internet connection.
Seriously. TW sucks for *everything*.
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Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is th
Who cares? Just don't use Time Warner for your internet connection. I
mean, I may be in the minority here, but I haven't lived anywhere in
the past 6 or 7 years (5 different locations in 2 different states)
that didn't have at least both DSL and Cable Modem providers
available. On top of that, mo
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> Purchasing and developing systems to stop SPAM which accounts for more than
> 90% of email traffic, Virus propagation through the net in attachments etc.
> would help far more people than spending billions to stop BitTorrent.
Yes, but I'm seeing active campaigning by the public against these policies
in other countries. Example in Canada (although traffic shaping is another,
but related, issue) there were protests and open letters and a huge uproar
from other ISPs and downstream ISPs. I mean they actually got SUED!
But
Its happening elsewhere, it seems that the quest for excessive profits outrules
all else.
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/06/02/tech-quebec.html
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Last Updated: Monday, June 2, 2008 | 6:00 PM ET
By Peter Nowak CBC News
Bell Canada Inc. is facing
Go government enforced monopolies!
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Go Capitalism!
>
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date
Get the Free
Go Capitalism!
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The country that is already trailing the rest of the developed world in
> Internet Usage has now taken even more steps backward.
>
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2008/tc2008063_767960.htm?c
The country that is already trailing the rest of the developed world in
Internet Usage has now taken even more steps backward.
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2008/tc2008063_767960.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_news+%2B+analysis
Time Warner is putting in place a Net Metering
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