Re: Libya

2012-09-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Are you feeling like a true idiot yet?" Sam, Sam, Sam. You haven't learned yet. Whenever a progressive statist is wrong, it is ALWAYS someone else's fault. This is a particularly tricky case. It obvious to almost everyone that the fault should be Obama's since he blatantly lied. However, a

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2012-09-27 Thread Sam
Are you feeling like a true idiot yet? . On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You can do nothing wrong and still be an idiot. It was a deliberate > provocation with every intent of stirring up trouble in the middle > east. A stupid attempt for an October type surprise aime

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2012-09-19 Thread Judah McAuley
Islamic Jihad was a splinter group from the MB long ago because of their perception that the Brotherhood was too willing to work with the government process. We discussed that before. I don't know Hazem Abu Ismael, so I had to look him up. As far as I can tell, nothing connects him to the Muslim B

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2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
"including the Islamic Jihad (and the) Hazem Abu Ismael" On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:53 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > You guys are probably right. > > The MB and AQ aren't related at all... > > > http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/zawahiris-brother-cairo-embassy-assault_652217.html >

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2012-09-18 Thread LRS Scout
You guys are probably right. The MB and AQ aren't related at all... http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/zawahiris-brother-cairo-embassy-assault_652217.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
"And this was BEFORE the '47% are victims and don't pay taxes' video came out today" I'm trying to decide if this actually helps his campaign. People might like a candidate who drops the truth every once in a while. Anyway, in Alan Grayson, NBC fashion, Mother Jones is practicing some question

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
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2012-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
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Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread GMoney
t; http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:58 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya > > > All po

RE: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya All polls that use a "likely voter" model calibrate their population sample based on their model of how they think the act

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Amazing. that is akin to clinical paranoid schizophrenia. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Also, if your argument for election is "Every poll organization other > than Rasmussen is out to get us and, really, people totally love us > but there is a conspiracy to make sure

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Also, if your argument for election is "Every poll organization other than Rasmussen is out to get us and, really, people totally love us but there is a conspiracy to make sure you never hear that"...chances are good that you're going to lose. Just sayin. Judah ~~

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
All polls that use a "likely voter" model calibrate their population sample based on their model of how they think the actual voting population will come out. Each polling outfit uses their own model and it can be just a top-line number (we predict that 53% of the voters will be Democrats and 47%

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-17 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Most polls have Obama ahead, thought it's a slight margin. " Just came across this article about polling for this election: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-graph-shows-why-obama-is-ahead-in-the-polls/ It has a nice graph that shows the lead along with the over sampling. Here is the graph

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
Simply insane. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160018#.UFUg71HF1Gl On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Fort Hood was a special case. There was a lot of evidence that the > army was ignoring a lot of signs that Maj. Nidal Hasan was displaying > that should

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2012-09-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Fort Hood was a special case. There was a lot of evidence that the army was ignoring a lot of signs that Maj. Nidal Hasan was displaying that should have been major warning signs. When he was training in this area there were numerous complaints about his increasing radicalized behavior. His immedi

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
It's an incredibly hard problem to solve. Look at the Fort Hood shootings. Amidst psych screens, heavy security, years on the job...there are still guys that get through. Who knows how long it will be (if ever) before Afghanistan gets to that level of security. Judah On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:29

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
It's pretty common for militants to be in these positions and use them to kill Americans too. We're losing as many men in Afghanistan to supposed good guys as we are to the declared enemy. On Sep 15, 2012 4:28 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > >

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Skimming I misread this: > > "Nor was what happened in Benghazi a simple story of Americans assaulted by > the Libyans they helped to liberate from Moammar Gadhafi last year, > American officials say. Libyan security forces and a sympathetic l

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
hat two other, as-yet-unidentified U.S. nationals died." > > The Libyan government and the local militia (according to this report) > helped regain control of the building and evacuate our guys. > > Judah > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:11 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > &g

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
11 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/libya-fast-team/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=Previous > > Things were very different on the ground than initially reported. Libyan > state resources took part in the attack. &

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
Libyan cop scouting the consulate: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/vilerat/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=MoreRecently On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 4:11 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/libya-fast-team/?utm_so

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/09/libya-fast-team/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=Previous Things were very different on the ground than initially reported. Libyan state resources took part in the attack. Oh hell no. On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 3:53 PM, L

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
Protesting != killing and burning. On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Maureen wrote: > > So, Tim, now they are protesting in Australia. Does that country fall > under your "carpet bomb them" edict? > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > Sick yeah, scared no. We could

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2012-09-15 Thread Maureen
So, Tim, now they are protesting in Australia. Does that country fall under your "carpet bomb them" edict? On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Sick yeah, scared no. We could glass the place if we wanted, and we've > shown time and again that the insurgents and terrorists ca

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
You're right about the destroyers, I got confused because of the earlier discussion about the fleet in the Mediterranean. As for scared, I meant scared for the people I love who keep going to countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon and Egypt. I'm not scared for our country. As for the spec

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
o I just keep on hoping and trust that the tide > of civilization will keep rolling, slowly but surely, and the world > will get better. > > Judah > > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > I know you're right Judah, I'm just sick to my go

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
eep rolling, slowly but surely, and the world will get better. Judah On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I know you're right Judah, I'm just sick to my god damned stomach right now. > > Gary Johnson: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-johnson/

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
to attacks on our sovereign land. We in no way should go after >> > the people that killed our diplomats. >> >> Uh, neither I nor anyone else I've seen has suggested anything of the >> sort. In fact, the last I heard, two carriers are moving into the >> region

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
I know you're right Judah, I'm just sick to my god damned stomach right now. Gary Johnson: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-johnson/libya-afghanistan-and-the_b_1885594.html ugh. Fuck. On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Look they aren't respecting inter

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
;> >> Uh, neither I nor anyone else I've seen has suggested anything of the >> sort. In fact, the last I heard, two carriers are moving into the >> region and the Marine Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team is already on >> the ground in Libya while an FBI evidence te

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
> Uh, neither I nor anyone else I've seen has suggested anything of the > sort. In fact, the last I heard, two carriers are moving into the > region and the Marine Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team is already on > the ground in Libya while an FBI evidence team is en route. To sugges

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2012-09-15 Thread Judah McAuley
to attacks on our sovereign land. We in no way should go after > the people that killed our diplomats. Uh, neither I nor anyone else I've seen has suggested anything of the sort. In fact, the last I heard, two carriers are moving into the region and the Marine Fleet Antiterrorism Securi

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2012-09-15 Thread LRS Scout
gt;>> ---- > >>> Three Ravens Consulting > >>> Eric Roberts > >>> Owner/Developer > >>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > >>> tel: 630-486-5255 > >>> fax: 630-310-8531 > >>&g

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2012-09-14 Thread Judah McAuley
eeravensconsulting.com >>> tel: 630-486-5255 >>> fax: 630-310-8531 >>> http://www.threeravensconsulting.com >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >

RE: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya That's simply not true. WBC would have been arrewsted in DC, Nazi in Illinois. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
: 630-310-8531 >> http://www.threeravensconsulting.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:22 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re:

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:22 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya > > > Ok, I watched the movie. It was gay. > > I didn't ever hear anyone saying start a riot. > > When you talk of incitement it must b

RE: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya Ok, I watched the movie. It was gay. I didn't ever hear anyone saying start a riot. When you talk of incitement it must be DIRECT incit

Re: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You never know what may have happened in some of those board room battles, he may have just been cut short. Then again according to Deuteronomy 23:1 ESV No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Mauree

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
That's the buzz. I know they are old, and she is sick with MS, but really..no sex? In all tribal societies that would have eliminated him from any leadership position. Of course, I can understand her not wanting him. He is major icky in the sex appeal department. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:00

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
t; fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:42 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya > > > Freedom

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2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya Freedom of speech. http://now.msn.com/aclu-sues-georgia-on-behalf-of-the-kkk On Fri, Sep 14

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
It was pretty bad. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Maureen wrote: > > "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your > right to say it." > > (and whomever wrote that story should be taken out and flogged for poor > journalism) > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM, LRS

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2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya Got this from Jim Davis over on FB. http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion Good shit. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I identify as an American. I could go to Canada and pr

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2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Ann probably objects to Mittens craniorectal inversion. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Maureen wrote: > > In the book, they "marriage" very young children and have full control over > those children. > Warren Jeffs forced the marriages of children and required them to have > sex. He was convi

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
Wait, they don't have sex? WTF? On Sep 14, 2012 2:56 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > In the book, they "marriage" very young children and have full control over > those children. > Warren Jeffs forced the marriages of children and required them to have > sex. He was convicted on charges of abuse in t

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." (and whomever wrote that story should be taken out and flogged for poor journalism) On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Freedom of speech. > > http://now.msn.com/aclu-sues-georgia-on-be

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
In the book, they "marriage" very young children and have full control over those children. Warren Jeffs forced the marriages of children and required them to have sex. He was convicted on charges of abuse in the case of a 14 year old, but a number of the women who have fled the cult have done so

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2012-09-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Got this from Jim Davis over on FB. > > http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion > > Good shit. Word. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
Freedom of speech. http://now.msn.com/aclu-sues-georgia-on-behalf-of-the-kkk On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The book Hitler's Willing Executioners put it best: > > "The German perpetrators of the Holocaust treated Jews in all the > brutal and lethal ways that they di

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2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The book Hitler's Willing Executioners put it best: "The German perpetrators of the Holocaust treated Jews in all the brutal and lethal ways that they did because, by and large, they believed that what they were doing was right and necessary. Second, that there was long existing, virulent antisem

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
Got this from Jim Davis over on FB. http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion Good shit. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I identify as an American. I could go to Canada and probably get > citizenship, but I don't. It's important to me to be an American. Do I > agree with

Re: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Jerry Barnes
out of Libya. A senior security official says the attack that killed four Americans in Libya, including the U.S. ambassador, was an organized two-part operation by heavily armed militants that included a precisely timed raid on a supposedly secret safe house just as Libyan and U.S. security forces

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2012-09-14 Thread Judah McAuley
I identify as an American. I could go to Canada and probably get citizenship, but I don't. It's important to me to be an American. Do I agree with everything that is official policy here? Oh hell no. But it's what I was born into, it is what my ancestors were and I'll do my best to help make my co

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:01 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya > > >

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
I'm not saying it is. I know better than that. I worked with ANA guys that really were trying to do the right things. Terps that put their lives and the lives of their families on the line to help us. What I am saying is that EVERY person that self identifies as either a sh'a or sunni is sayin

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2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
er ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya Ok Let's try this a

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
I have no problem with polygamy and polyamoury, no more than I do with gay marriage. What consenting adults do between themselves is their problem. Define very young? Also what year are we talking about? Everyone used to get married at 12 or 15, that's not 3. Again, I think all religion is cr

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2012-09-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:13 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I'm the one that posted the pics of those supporting protests to this list > don't forget. Yes, I loved seeing it and would love to see more. > > Instead what I've seen is Yemen and Tunisia. If you are paying attention to Tunisia perhaps yo

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
They marriage very young children to the elders of the church. Admittedly, the main church claims that they no longer support polygamy, but they only stopped when the US forced it on them by refusing to admit Utah to the union until that doctrine was changed. Romney's great-grandfather had 12 wi

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
I see where it talks about polygamy, which I don't have a problem with. I see where it talks about a murder, which the people were prosecuted and jailed for. I don't see where it says that it is official religious law that you can derive sexual gratification from and marry a 3 year old. I've al

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
Read Under the Banner of Heaven. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_banner_of_heaven On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > The Mormons let you marry and get off on 3 year olds? > > I don't even the crazy ones on the compounds would go that far. > ~

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
re talking handfuls of people. > > > >I'm talking entire nations. 2 billion Muslims are following these laws. > >This morality. > > > > > How many people participated in the violence in those places? Perhaps > several hundred? Let's be generous and say a coupl

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Mostly though, we are independent because we reject the idea that one ideology, devoid of the merit points of the other, are good for this country." That's great. However, the number of "independents" must be so small as to be meaningless. The political divide in this country is growing, not s

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2012-09-14 Thread Larry Lyons
usand. Now how many practicing Muslims are there in Egypt, Libya and Yemen? 113 MILLION. The Libyan attack was likely orchestrated by a professional pro-AQ group of holdouts. Do you know for a FACT that those attacker's religious sensibilities were offended by this "movie", whose v

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
The Mormons let you marry and get off on 3 year olds? I don't even the crazy ones on the compounds would go that far. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Oh right. I forgot, that was the Mormons. > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:01 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > They did it to

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
Oh right. I forgot, that was the Mormons. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:01 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > They did it to prevent the church from getting a bad name. Was it wrong? > Yes, but it is not morally equivalent to creating religious law that > specifically allows you to marry and derive sexual

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2012-09-14 Thread Larry Lyons
The German Imperial Army was not defeated? I really don't know what history you read but its sadly lacking in what happened. First off start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days_Offensive This isn't a bad summary of what happened in the last 3 months of WW1. But in essence the result

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
> tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:53 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya >

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
rom: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:22 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya > > > Shut down by the church and apologized for his comments. > > Yup, that's the same thing. > > You guys should certainly keep picking

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
sulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > ---- > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:22 AM > To: cf-community &

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2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 10:53 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya "You guys should certainly keep picking and cho

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2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
---Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya Shut down by the church and apologized for his comments. Yup, that's the same thing. You guys should certainly keep picking and choosing your p

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2012-09-14 Thread Eric Roberts
lting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 9:22 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya Shut down by the church and

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Except that in most of those countries, a conservative to Denmark, for instance would be a left wing extremist according to an American conservative. Lets take Canada for example, look at the policy platform of the Tories in Canada, their policy platform is fto the left of the Democratic Party he

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread GMoney
Yeah, not sure i'd call any of those unchecked. Thanks on the generalization kudos though. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:01 AM, LRS Scout wrote: > > All of those countries have conservative right ing movemenrs, some of which > are very strong. Especially in Scandinavia. > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012

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2012-09-14 Thread Maureen
You been under a rock for the last 20 years while these scandals regarding priests have been discussed world-wide? You seriously think only one priest is a pedophile? 575 cases in Boston Diocese alone. From the The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops website. http://www.usccb.org/issu

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
All of those countries have conservative right ing movemenrs, some of which are very strong. Especially in Scandinavia. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > You mean like the unbridled liberalism of the Scandinavian countries, > or Holland, or New Zealand or Australia or

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean like the unbridled liberalism of the Scandinavian countries, or Holland, or New Zealand or Australia or Canada perhaps? Nice bit of over generalization. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >> That's cool. I certa

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > That's cool. I certainly have no idea which way the independents are > leaning, but then I think that there aren't really that many independents > There are people who claim to be independents because they don't want to > be labelled as a

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2012-09-14 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You guys should certainly keep picking and choosing your points, ignoring completely the mass of what I cited." Isn't that amazing. One priest who supports pedophilia and a whole religion can be condemned. The tunnel vision and narrow mindedness is incredible. A whole political belief system

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Jerry Barnes
"OK well.i can't find much as to which way independents are leaning (did only a cursory search)." Same here. I find "polls" and surveys indicating one way or another. It all depends on who is conducting the poll. "I guess I would offer that my own personal experience suggests what you pos

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread GMoney
OK well.i can't find much as to which way independents are leaning (did only a cursory search). I guess I would offer that my own personal experience suggests what you posted is not true. We are not leaning overwhelmingly towards Romney. But i guess my friends and I could be the exception to

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
Shut down by the church and apologized for his comments. Yup, that's the same thing. You guys should certainly keep picking and choosing your points, ignoring completely the mass of what I cited. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Rev. Benedict Groeschel. > > > http://w

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2012-09-14 Thread LRS Scout
gt;>> which he > >>> > established a clinic near his > >>> > parents.[20]< > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri#cite_note-wrightp42-19 &

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Whoa whoa...can you source that about independents?" Of course I can't. It's not my survey or my analysis (it was a cut and paste). I can only confirm the percentages. That's why I am telling you to check yourself anytime you see a survey. The survey I posted about was from Monday of this we

Re: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Rev. Benedict Groeschel. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/nyregion/in-interview-the-rev-benedict-groeschel-says-abuse-victims-can-be-seducers.html On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, LRS Scout wrote: >> >> Find me a single chritian prea

Re: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
;> > 1978, he also earned a master's degree in surgery. >>> > [21] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri#cite_note-20> >>> > >>> > Islamic Jihad is the Muslim Brotherhood. Comes directly from it. >>> > >>> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:59 P

Re: Timeline of events in Egypt and Libya

2012-09-14 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > The problem is that this survey over-samples Democratic voters > and under-samples Independents which are leaning toward Romney by > double-digits. > Whoa whoa...can you source that about independents? I'm an independent, many of my frien

Re: Libya

2012-09-14 Thread Jerry Barnes
Analysis: Film at heart of Libya attack may be fake Details casting doubt on the authenticity of the controversial film Innocence of Muslims, which sparked protests in Cairo and spurred the Libya attack that killed US Ambassador Christopher Stevens, mounted on Wednesday. A series of facts

Re: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Free speech isn't just for the mainstream, for the masses. It is for the individual." I feel like you are waisting your time. While you are right, some people just can't see it or they do see it and choose to ignore it. Free speech to them means "You must agree with me or you're narrow minded

Re: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread LRS Scout
Roberts > Owner/Developer > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2

RE: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread Eric Roberts
nal Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya So what you're saying is our culture and morality do not accept such behavior. We arrest prosecute and jail people like that? Yeah, thanks for making

Re: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread LRS Scout
; ow...@threeravensconsulting.com > tel: 630-486-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:39 PM >

RE: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread Eric Roberts
...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya So what you're saying i

RE: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread Eric Roberts
To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya So what you're saying is our culture and morality do not accept such behavior. We arrest prosecute and jail people like that? Yeah, thanks for making my point. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote

Re: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread LRS Scout
- > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:33 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya > > > What's their death toll at? > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012

RE: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread Eric Roberts
-Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Libya What's their death toll at? On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote

Re: Libya

2012-09-13 Thread LRS Scout
6-5255 > fax: 630-310-8531 > http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > > > -Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:58 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Libya > > > Sources? Examples?

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