Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Munn
Yeah, it's very disturbing stuff. I've had this debate recently with a liberal journalist friend of mine. I don't especially care about political cronyism, which is as old as civilization, but I do care about competence. At least they could have brought in competent people with relevant experien

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Here in lies the problem, you think you're OPINION is based on fact > and everyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong. Uh, isn't that the definition of an opinion? Yes, if you don't agree with me then I think you're wrong. I have no desire to argue with your or anyone else - onl

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Sam
Here in lies the problem, you think you're OPINION is based on fact and everyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong. There are no facts that prove I was in error to vote for Bush, just opinions. And I have been using facts to dispute your trolling remarks blaming all the deaths from this hurrican

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Look at this statement and tell me it's not a troll: > "My job is not done until all within earshot are convinced. The trick > is to show people the > error of their choice in the last election and thus avoid senseless > deaths in the future." > It's not a troll. People make error

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Actually from what has been coming out from the various media outlets about Michael Brown and the other top people at FEMA. Its becoming quite obvious regarding the degree of Brown's incompetence. Apparently he's really been padding his resume: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/09/sr.fri/index.ht

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Munn
No one in this forum who believes it voted for Bush, so who cares what you guys think? You'll take any chance you get to bash the guy. No one at any level of government responded well to the crisis, but I don't call teh rescue effort a failure. Hundreds of thousands of people could have died. T

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Sam
Every day, sometime many times a day you troll this list with your closed minded nonsense about how stupid the President is and everyone that voted for him. When I question your nonsense you start the name-calling. "You people are too stupid to understand bla bla bla" Look at this statement and te

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > "My job is not done until all within earshot are convinced, no matter > what the facts are!" > You make these trollish statements all of the time but, ironically, there's never any facts to them. You should just number your troll posts to save bandwidth. Better yet, use some disc

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Dana
::sigh:: facts. /me scrubs eyes with knuckles. All of the rest of us must be blind, Sam. I really don't have time to try to convince you if you don't want to know... Dana On 9/9/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Line monster must have clipped off the last bit. > > Should read: > "My jo

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Sam
Line monster must have clipped off the last bit. Should read: "My job is not done until all within earshot are convinced, no matter what the facts are!" On 9/9/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Or Robert and I think there may be others. My job is not done until > all within earshot are convinced. The

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Dana
The thing is fading out of the news and I know those people still need help. I am not sure what to do as I *really* don't trust the Red Cross to get it to them... Dana On 9/9/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list > > not kno

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Dana
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:32 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership > > OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list not know this yet? > I > was out yesterday and I come back to the same old routine? I wish

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its a great film. Anime of course. Well worth renting. larry On 9/9/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larry wrote: > > Then they saw Steamboy and were blown away by it. > > > > Hey, Steamboy! Is that the Japanese thing? A year or 2 ago in Tokyo > (by Asa Kusa) I saw this HUGE infla

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > Then they saw Steamboy and were blown away by it. > Hey, Steamboy! Is that the Japanese thing? A year or 2 ago in Tokyo (by Asa Kusa) I saw this HUGE inflated dude and took a picture by it. They were giving out little toys and crap and there was this big movie poster that sai

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
; > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership > > > Ken wrote: > > I'm not sure that Sam knows yet :) > > &

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
> > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership > > My sympathies. Even the trailers did not look all that good. > > Giv

RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Pork Wars - I like it. I always thought the Millennium Falcon looked a little like a pork chop. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:16 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership > Ken wrot

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
Or, Pork Wars. Starring Harrison Ford as Ham Solo... Maybe Kevin Bacon could be in it too... --- On Friday, September 09, 2005 10:16 AM, Gruss Gott scribed: --- > >> Ken wrote: >> I'm not sure that Sam knows yet :) >> > > Or Robert and I think there may be others. My job is not done until > a

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ken wrote: > I'm not sure that Sam knows yet :) > Or Robert and I think there may be others. My job is not done until all within earshot are convinced. The trick is to show people the error of their choice in the last election and thus avoid senseless deaths in the future. Not to mention sen

RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list > not know this yet? I was out yesterday and I come > back to the same old routine? I wish you'd do > something about it rather than complain endlessly. Well I suspect many of us are still needing / wanting comiseration after having done wha

RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Small
Larry, How can you comparatively judge a film that you've not even seen? Matthew Small -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 9:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership My

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
My kids wanted to see National Treasure. It was passable but just barely. Oh, and Bush failed :) --- On Friday, September 09, 2005 9:43 AM, Larry C. Lyons scribed: --- > > My sympathies. Even the trailers did not look all that good. > > Given a choice between that film and Steamboy, I saw Stea

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
My sympathies. Even the trailers did not look all that good. Given a choice between that film and Steamboy, I saw Steamboy, a much better film. more believable too. larry On 9/9/05, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw "*National* Treasure" > > Oh, and speaking of National Treasure

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
6:32 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership > > OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list not know this yet? > I > was out yesterday and I come back to the same old routine? I wish you'd > do > something about it rather than

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Howie Hamlin
I saw "*National* Treasure" Oh, and speaking of National Treasure...I think Bush failed :) Howie --- On Friday, September 09, 2005 9:32 AM, Matthew Small scribed: --- > > OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list not know this > yet? I > was out yesterday and I come back to the sa

RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I'm not sure that Sam knows yet :) -Original Message- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:32 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list not know this

RE: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Matthew Small
OK, we get it, Bush failed. Does anybody on the list not know this yet? I was out yesterday and I come back to the same old routine? I wish you'd do something about it rather than complain endlessly. Anybody seen "American Treausre" with Nick Cage? I liked it, it was a fun lighthearted mov

Re: Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
"In all sobriety"? Get that man a stiff drink, STAT! On 9/8/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "A leader is responsible for everything his subordinates do. This is > failure in leadership from President Bush ... I've been supporter of > Pres Bush, but I've got to come back to the fact

Lt Col Peters on Bush's Leadership

2005-09-08 Thread Gruss Gott
"A leader is responsible for everything his subordinates do. This is failure in leadership from President Bush ... I've been supporter of Pres Bush, but I've got to come back to the fact that this is a failure in leadership." "In all sobriety, and I don't want to be alarmist, but we should all be