Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-16 Thread Erika L. Walker
Oh BINGO! On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Same reason why the change of a single head coach can turn a losing > team into a winning team. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: >> It's not the people it's the leadership. > VP's and other high-level execs at BK got the pink slip the day the > new CEO walked in the door? > Zero. People are dynamic resources and they want to succeed. Same reason why the change of a single head coach can turn a losing team in

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> It's not the people it's the leadership. Uhm, CEO's have staff... as do Presidents. Yes, it's the leadership but in the case of a President, he's not the only part of the leadership that has to change for the situation to change. How many VP's and other high-level execs at BK got the pink slip

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > You're a Broken record with no reasoning skills. > Wow, that was awesome! It's like Amy Winehouse telling someone they might be taking one too many aspirin. LOL! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most imp

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: > "Change?" > Burger King was on the verge of bankruptcy and was bought out and taken private. The new owners made a single personnel change: the CEO. Now they're doing fine. It's not the people it's the leadership. But then why do you care? You didn't vote for Obama, don't supp

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
Let's talk about reading comprehension. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If the only people present were Bush and Obama, and if, as the article > says, the White House staff is talking and Obama's camp is mum, why do > you assume that the leaks came from Obama

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reading comprehension, again. I said the transparency was welcome > change. And no, most of the transition team has nothing to do with > the mortgage crisis, although I'm sure you'll find something else with > which to smear th

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
If the only people present were Bush and Obama, and if, as the article says, the White House staff is talking and Obama's camp is mum, why do you assume that the leaks came from Obama. Sounds to me more like they came from Bush. But you know he would never leak anything. Just ask Valerie Plame.

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
Reading comprehension, again. I said the transparency was welcome change. And no, most of the transition team has nothing to do with the mortgage crisis, although I'm sure you'll find something else with which to smear them. Good luck with finding Shrub's transition team. I don't think anyone o

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Business/story?id=6231372&page=1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The talk is about change and the transition and you seem to love how >> it's going. >>

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
Welcome change? Aren't most involved with the mortgage crisis? Eight years ago? I think I remember reading about it but would have to look up the names. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The very fact that you know there are bundlers on the transition team > is

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The talk is about change and the transition and you seem to love how > it's going. > I'm showing you it's not so perfect. Indeed, it is not perfect. That wasn't what we were discussing but that's a fine point when you express it tha

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
The talk is about change and the transition and you seem to love how it's going. I'm showing you it's not so perfect. Leaking confidential meeting details to the NYTimes is not presidential and should be a major concern to everyone of importance that will have private talks with him in the future.

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
The very fact that you know there are bundlers on the transition team is a welcome change. The transparency of each team member being named and having their full bios with disclosure of their previous connections on a public website is a welcome change. I wonder how many people here could name th

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll agree that the lobbying ruel changes woudl be 'change'. Can't give > credit for the public comment on legislation yet as it is not in practice > yet. even when it is, if there is no way to limit access to just US > citi

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Stroz
I'll agree that the lobbying ruel changes woudl be 'change'. Can't give credit for the public comment on legislation yet as it is not in practice yet. even when it is, if there is no way to limit access to just US citizens, I would argue that it is a bad 'change'. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM,

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps you weren't paying attention again, but I already said what >> he's done that I consider change. Look at lobbying rules during >> transition and pu

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps you weren't paying attention again, but I already said what > he's done that I consider change. Look at lobbying rules during > transition and public comment period on legislation as examples. Perhaps he was, agai

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> And so far what he has done meets your own definition of 'change'? All he >>> has appointed are liberals from the Clinton administration. Man,

RE: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Billy Cox
If they're not careful, Secretary of State might become a woman's job. I hope she at least makes a good cup of coffee. :) -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 10:06 AM To: cf-community Subject: Potential Secretar

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And so far what he has done meets your own definition of 'change'? All he >> has appointed are liberals from the Clinton administration. Speaking of change, one of the things I like about Obama so far is that he seems t

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And so far what he has done meets your own definition of 'change'? All he > has appointed are liberals from the Clinton administration. Perhaps you weren't paying attention again, but I already said what he's done that I c

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread G Money
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:26 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Rght... you mean like the Waco incident, I had NO problem with Waco. Nut jobs blew themselves up. When the press came looking to make a huge deal of it, Albright had one of my favorite moments of any gov official

RE: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Jacob
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:27 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton > The Clinton administration was far from perfect, but it was light > years better than what we've had for the last eight years. Rght... you mean like the Wa

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Stroz
And so far what he has done meets your own definition of 'change'? All he has appointed are liberals from the Clinton administration. Just like the $2,000,000 party where it was not part of the 'change' philosophy becasue everyone else before him did it, I guess only appointing Democrats to posts

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Sam
Bush lied people died yada yada yada. You're a Broken record with no reasoning skills. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many children have died in Iraq and Afghanistan as collateral > damage in Shrub's wars? As for Whitewater, Ken Starr spend months and

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
How many children have died in Iraq and Afghanistan as collateral damage in Shrub's wars? As for Whitewater, Ken Starr spend months and millions looking for something to pin on Bill and Hillary and found nothing so I'm not sure who you are referring to regarding the convictions for perjury or obst

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> The Clinton administration was far from perfect, but it was light > years better than what we've had for the last eight years. Rght... you mean like the Waco incident, Elian Gonzales, the DMCA, "Blackhawk Down", Whitewater, Convictions for Perjury and Obstruction of Justice, Travelgate, Chin

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
Gates is not so much a minion as Rummy. He's doing a credible job, and continuity in that position for a while would not be a bad idea. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He wants to keep Robert Gates on. > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Maureen <[

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
First off, I don't really think that Clinton will be chosen as Secretary of State, though I could see it being a polite offer. I think that she has more power in the Senate and can do more good there. Obviously I could be wrong and the only way we'll know is when he announces a pick. I'd guess that

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
If he hires people with no experience, everyone bitches about the lack of experience. If he hires someone with experience, everyone bitches that he promised change. The Clinton administration was far from perfect, but it was light years better than what we've had for the last eight years. Using

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
He wants to keep Robert Gates on. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Big Change. None of them are Bush's minions. > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, at least I'm not the only one looking at the upco

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Stroz
While I really have no issues with any of his appointees (including Hillary as Secretary of State) it seems more like 'change back' rather than 'cange' so far. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey > <[EMAI

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Maureen
Big Change. None of them are Bush's minions. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, at least I'm not the only one looking at the upcoming > administration with a single word question: > > "Change?" ~~~

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:22 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks, at least I'm not the only one looking at the upcoming > administration with a single word question: > > "Change?" I think that there has already been some substantative change in terms of style and substance.

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Vivec
no change :( playing it swafe. *sigh* 2008/11/14 Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ditto. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Stroz
Ditto. On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 1:22 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > They're all old school, embedded Democrats who have ties to previous > > administrations. Not the fresh new bold direction that many expected from > > him. Like I said, I expect him to be a lot more conservat

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> They're all old school, embedded Democrats who have ties to previous > administrations. Not the fresh new bold direction that many expected from > him. Like I said, I expect him to be a lot more conservative than he seemed > on the trail and will wait for more successes before going to big things

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
They're all old school, embedded Democrats who have ties to previous administrations. Not the fresh new bold direction that many expected from him. Like I said, I expect him to be a lot more conservative than he seemed on the trail and will wait for more successes before going to big things that ca

RE: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Loathe
I'm disgusted, the woman knows nothing about diplomacy and is evil. > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:06 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton > &

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Erika L. Walker
ROFLMAO. That tickled me pink for some reason LOL On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:45 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's odd...what's this can of worms doing laying here..?? > Hmmmthink I'll see what's inside > > ~

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread G Money
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:07 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On the one hand I think it'll be about status quo (cronyism reigns > supreme) but no more scary than the appointments he's already made. > > On the other hand, I'll be glad enough not to have to call her Senator any >

Re: Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What? No discussion on the potential new Secretary of State? All over the > news this morning. On the one hand I think it'll be about status quo (cronyism reigns supreme) but no more scary than the appointments he's alr

Potential Secretary of State - Hillary Clinton

2008-11-14 Thread Erika L. Walker
What? No discussion on the potential new Secretary of State? All over the news this morning. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;