Thanks everyone for all the advice, we managed to work things out.
Thankfully I cooled out before talking to anyone :)
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> From: DRE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:02 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Advice nee
First, confirm that you have the same goals. Use a slow even deep voice.
Use empathy. "I understand how you feel this way, ..."
Identify. "I felt the same way when my car wouldnt start because the
mechanic forgot the johnsonrod"
Then throw in how their peers may of gone thru the same experienc
Suck it up.
Once the whole thing is over, decide whether you want them for clients
again, but not during the "heat of battle".
Too many bad decisions get made when the tempers are up (yours AND theirs).
On 10/17/06, loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So we had a release.
>
> Then the client f
Depends on whether you plan to have a long term relationship with this
client and how your contract is structured. Personally I would explain the
situation and how often times bugs are not discovered until this stage of
development and that they will be fixed as part of the project quote or no
addi
My two cents:
Sometimes clients behave poorly at transition points, as a way to keep costs
fixed and discourage additional fees.
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From: loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:15 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Advice needed
So we had a release.
>Now, from my perspective, problems SHOULD be encountered during testing and
>fixed, but these guys are getting all worked up over nothing.
>
>How would you deal with this? I mean, I am kind of upset at the way I was
>dealt with, and think that they are expecting too much. No application is
>perf
now and
see it one way. That one way may not necessarily be the best way to do it
in sql.
Marlon
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> From: Dharmesh Goel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 10:46 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Advice Needed
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Marlon,
How about blackstone? You could use the new reports feature in blackstone.
These reports can be run off of your cfcs'.
DG
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From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:42 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Advice Needed
I've just a
d from a performance standpoint - and it is front-end neutral as
> well.
>
> - Matt Small
>
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> From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:07 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Advice Needed
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> I've done thi
a performance standpoint - and it is front-end neutral as
> well.
>
>
>
> - Matt Small
>
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> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:07 PM
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> Subject: RE: Advice Needed
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 6:07 PM
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I've done this before, but what my manager wants is for himself to be able
to write the reports. I agree, that this probably should have been made
with stored procs to begin
ked at a database as just a place to store data, not
necessarily to manipulate it. Maybe I need to rethink that position.
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> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Advic
Hmmm... I don't think it's necessarily a step backwards. Unfortunately,
your code is usable only on an interface that can use straight text output
(be it a web page or a comma-delimited file or...) It might have been more
sensible to write them initially as SQL stored procedures and have the CFCs
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:48 A
fe tonight and explain to her my
>>| reservations about the job. Maybe I'll have an offer before then.
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>>| Thanks for the advice everyone.
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>>| Russel
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>>| From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:48 AM
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wow, I remember RPG (Report Program Generator) language
from when the IBM System/34 was introduced in the 80's.
(The Sys
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RPG is not as much fun as ColdFusion ... BUT
There are advantages to taking an opportunity like this ... There are
still a lot of companies who are still integrating their AS/400 backend
to web front ends
wow, I remember RPG (Report Program Generator) language
from when the IBM System/34 was introduced in the 80's.
(The System/36 and System/36 became the AS/400.)
Hey, if it uses a skill you have, and doesn't burn any
bridges, it's probably good.
Only negatives I can think of - you want to go
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Advice Needed
> I thought RPG was "Role Playing Game" and I thought, "man, that would be
> sweet".
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Your ad could be here.
I thought RPG was "Role Playing Game" and I thought, "man, that would be
sweet".
I had a very similar problem a little over a year ago. I took a job to get
out of the one I was in and found that it really really sucked. 3 weeks
later a friend offered me a great CF position and I jumped at it.
RPG is not as much fun as ColdFusion ... BUT
There are advantages to taking an opportunity like this ... There are
still a lot of companies who are still integrating their AS/400 backend
to web front ends ... So in my opinion, the experience is worth it.
My partner is an RPG-AS/400 guy, and has
I'd say go for it. Don't put your eggs in one basket. Pass this up and then
don't get the CF job, your screwed still. If the benefits make up for lost
salary and this job will be okay with you until you find a more "perfect" job
for yourself, I'd say take it. Same situation just happened to an ex
My feeling is TAKE IT.
Having the ability to access that backend legacy system _from_ Cold Fusion is an
invaluable skill..
I've now been involved on a number of jobs where the inventory and POS system is
AS/400 based, and someone will want to tack on a internet web cart.
This inevitably invol
I used to do a lot of RPG. It's not as fun to work with as the web, but
it's a job... if you're out of work, I'd take it and then keep my ears open
for prospective CF positions. Who knows, maybe this could blossom into a
web development opportunity for you.
~Simon
Simon Horwith
Macromedia Cert
You have to ask yourself the question, will you be happy? If you can
answer yes, then go for it. If you won't be happy can you afford to
wait? I have known people who have taken jobs just to get by and still
looked for a better one. If you don't have any qualms about working a
job for 3 months
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