Echelon and Carnivore...
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From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 11:59 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: New law mandates black boxes in all cars by 2015
GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon?
Have
LOL...they have it out for you Tony LOL
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Tony wrote:
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> why's it gotta be black?! racist motherfuckers.
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> On Friday, April 27, 2012, LRS Scout wrote:
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> > Ok, seriously, does it matter if they are doing it out of malice or just
> > the best of reasons?
why's it gotta be black?! racist motherfuckers.
On Friday, April 27, 2012, LRS Scout wrote:
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> Ok, seriously, does it matter if they are doing it out of malice or just
> the best of reasons?
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> I know good people in government, they exist. But I knew far more that
> were lazy or inept, GS, at
Ok, seriously, does it matter if they are doing it out of malice or just
the best of reasons?
I know good people in government, they exist. But I knew far more that
were lazy or inept, GS, at every level is and had been broken.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM, GMoney wrote:
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> Not sure why y
since I'm the one that made the leap... yes, it seems a bit of a
reach, you're right. But so is having the Department of Homeland
Security tackle the question of counterfeit handbags. And that's where
we are now, is my point.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:16 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> Not sure why you a
Not sure why you are questioning me about this.
All i inquired about was the government sending us automated speeding
tickets. That's it. No comment on CISPA or any of this other stuff. Just
speeding tickets.
I guess I should know better than to even hint that the government might
not be up to t
right. Tracking everyone all of the time is why they need the capacity
in that data center.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:59 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon?
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> Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on
> a
GMoney, have you ever heard of Total Information Awareness, or Echelon?
Have you looked into any of the more recent laws I have gone on and on
about?
Here's a small list to spend some time with should you feel like seeing
what seems to be a very real pattern to soldify the hold of the police
sta
"Sounds like he's saying the Gov can deem you guilty using it's own
idea of 'due
process', over and above the courts."
It means the government can drone your ass or black bag you anytime it
wants to, Constitution be damned. At least according to Obama appointee
Holder.
Most of you know that the
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> Read this quote and tell me what you think about this:
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> Due process and judicial process are not one and the same, particularly
> when it comes to national security. The Constitution guarantees due
> process, not judicial process. - Er
"If they thought I was about to commit a terrorist act, yes."
Which raises the question, how would the government come to the thought
that you were going to commit a terrorist act. Wouldn't they have to be
watching you?
"Gov does lots of things when they target someone they think is gonna
be na
hey, it gets *better* -- according to this
http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/security/297113-house-poised-to-debate-cispa-where-are-we-now
prevention of theft is also in there.
D
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> Protection of individuals, protection of children.
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> Wow, si
If you think that's funny you have not been paying attention ;)
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:59 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> okee dokee :)
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> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Dana wrote:
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>> that appears to be the plan. Yes I am serious.
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>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:22 AM, GMoney wrote:
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Filtered on party registration like the IRS audits.
.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:10 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> So you think the government could or would store the speed AND current
> location AND current location posted speed limits for every driver of every
> car in the entire country, then cross c
okee dokee :)
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Dana wrote:
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> that appears to be the plan. Yes I am serious.
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> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:22 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jerry Barnes
> wrote:
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> >> I'll answer with a question: Would the government tap
I don't know what to say to you. I am pretty much speechless myself. I
did answer a couple of people on Facebook this morning who were saying
pshaw, it will all be ok. Indeed, either the Senate or the president
can still prevent this from becoming law. But will they? -- it's an
election year. All
that appears to be the plan. Yes I am serious.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 6:22 AM, GMoney wrote:
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> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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>> I'll answer with a question: Would the government tap your phone, spy on
>> you with drones, put a warrentless tracer on your car in yo
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> I'll answer with a question: Would the government tap your phone, spy on
> you with drones, put a warrentless tracer on your car in your driveway, or
> track your internet usage and save the data for years?
>
If they thought I was about
"So you think the government could or would store the speed AND
current location
AND current location posted speed limits for every driver of every car in
the entire country, then cross check this data and issue tickets???"
All it would take is a vector of three parts. Location, time, and speed.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
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> "This sounds like it would fall under illegal search and seizure. The
> authorities
> have no probably cause to suspect a crime has been committed, so they
> shouldn't be snooping to begin with."
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> You don't believe that a reason cannot
"This sounds like it would fall under illegal search and seizure. The
authorities
have no probably cause to suspect a crime has been committed, so they
shouldn't be snooping to begin with."
You don't believe that a reason cannot be found to review the records? Do a
google search for "tax by the
their = there gah.
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:51 AM, LRS Scout wrote:
> Protection of individuals, protection of children.
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> Wow, simply amazing.
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> 4th amendment, what 4th amendment?
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> Didn't their used to be sub-committees whose jobs it was to check all
> bills for constitutional aplicab
Protection of individuals, protection of children.
Wow, simply amazing.
4th amendment, what 4th amendment?
Didn't their used to be sub-committees whose jobs it was to check all bills
for constitutional aplicability?
WTF happened to those?
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:45 AM, PT wrote:
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> Bloo
Bloody hell. They better slow down before they get a lot of attention.
Are they behind on paying off their masters or something?
On 4/26/2012 11:55 PM, Dana wrote:
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> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml
~
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:36 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> Makes me feel all warm and safe..
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Dana wrote:
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>> An amendment to cispa allow
Makes me feel all warm and safe..
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Dana wrote:
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> An amendment to cispa allows information to be shared without a
> warrant if there is a risk of harm to any person.
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> no I am not kidding.
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:24 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> > I'm
An amendment to cispa allows information to be shared without a
warrant if there is a risk of harm to any person.
no I am not kidding.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:24 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
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> I'm sure they will find away around warrants.
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, PT wrote:
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>> > D
I'm sure they will find away around warrants.
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:04 PM, PT wrote:
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> > Don't worry, State and Federal governments surely won't do anything with
> > these boxes. I can't imagine cash strapped states pulling the box during
> > inspection, cross checking speed with speed
> Don't worry, State and Federal governments surely won't do anything with
> these boxes. I can't imagine cash strapped states pulling the box during
> inspection, cross checking speed with speed limit and gps data, and then
> writing tickets for any violations.
This sounds like it would fall un
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