RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-15 Thread Paris Lundis
past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Edward Chanter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:28:07 +0100 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > -Original Message- > > And

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-15 Thread Stewart McGowan
so... -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] That's true. -Original Message- From: Stewart McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] and I was adopted as a child, Maybeline may well be my mom..people like Ray gave kids like me a chance, in your wor

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-15 Thread Edward Chanter
Just because our lives are short doesn't mean to say they're not precious... Each life (human and non-human) on the planet enriches us and we are diminished every time one of those lives is extinguished. Whether it's a person or a beetle or a rattle-snake, they all matter imho. If you really wan

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-15 Thread John Wilker
in Chinese. -Original Message- From: Stewart McGowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:40 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place and I was adopted as a child, Maybeline may well be my mom..people like Ray gave kids like me a chan

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-15 Thread John Wilker
; in Chinese. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 3:33 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > I'm also beginning to see why people like mabeline and even hard working > marva raise their own so

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2001-06-15 Thread Edward Chanter
> -Original Message- > And Edward, on the flip side I don't want to sit around listening to > lazy whackos complaining about how they don't make any money and > expecting us to dool out some to them :) Neither do I, but I also think if the education and motivation of people were different

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-15 Thread Edward Chanter
t don't expect me to subscribe to an idea that is about as prehistoric as the (extinct!) dinosaurs. In the words of the late great Bill Hicks, "Sorry!" peace, -= Ed > -Original Message- > From: Dave Fobare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 14 June 2001 4

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:41:14 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > > The same thing should be true... If your parents aren't paying to > cover

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > I get taxed on food/housing/clothing in Virginia. I pay 4.5% on > food, > personal property tax on my house, personal property tax on my > vehicles, > 4.5%tax on clothing. > > dave > > >First, you don't pay taxes here in

Re: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Todd Ashworth
| Bread, milk, fruit, meat, housing, clothing = no taxes... unless you | eat out and do other luxurious things I think that makes sense... Sure you pay taxes on housing .. it's called property tax. Speaking of which, I also have to pay property tax on my car. Last year my tax on my car was

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Edward Chanter
Thanks George, I was wondering if I'd get flamed for that one or not I just couldn't stay quiet anymore given what I was reading... peace, -= Ed If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." ~The 14th Dalai Lama ~

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread dave fauth
I get taxed on food/housing/clothing in Virginia. I pay 4.5% on food, personal property tax on my house, personal property tax on my vehicles, 4.5%tax on clothing. dave >First, you don't pay taxes here in the US on the things you need to >survive... and where you do such, the taxes aren't so a

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:03:45 -0700 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > I'm pretty sure it was neve

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
resent] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:17:10 -0700 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > "Your ferrari doesn't help the country. Children do." > &g

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Edward Chanter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:17:36 +0100 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > I just want to say that the following is not direc

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
for bankruptct if I try real hard. -paris [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:04:45 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Dave Fobare
Someone said: Anyone who could even contemplate valuing human life in terms of how many >dollars the person is worth need look no further to find "pure evil" than >walk to the nearest mirror. Bulls**t. Everybody puts a price on life. The gov't does it(or is supposed to) when contemplating new r

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Raymond Camden
> The same thing should be true... If your parents aren't paying to cover > your cost, the rest of us pickup the tab. You or your parents should > repay the debt... I guess the orphans go to the salt mines? I guess poor people deserve 'poor' schools then? > -paris

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
amden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:54:49 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > > > It's a long leap from not wanting to pay for the crappy public > school > > system with my taxes dollars to letting crack babies starve. But > >

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Kola Oyedeji
>> >>Will a Ferrari make you coffee at 3am when you've been up coding all night? >> >> - I don't think so! But will a Ferrari bring you loads of women to do all of the above??? HELL YEAH!! KOla -Original Message- From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PR

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
ess, causing me to make more and use less... -paris [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Marcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:08:24 -0500 Subject: RE: Revenge

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
e future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:11:50 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > Judith, > > Did any of your teachers go to a private school, or did the

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Dave Fobare
Larry Lyons opined: >Income tax in this >country is a regressive tax - the more you make theoretically the more you >pay (although with the new tax cuts now that's arguable). Point 1: I think you meant to use the term "progressive" instead of "regressive". Point 2: Tax cuts or not, the rich pa

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Paris Lundis
ple, places and things] -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 11:22:26 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > We at Fig Leaf have recently modified some policies to be more > beneficial to > homosexuals. For instance, y

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread George Kaytor
AMEN! Ed, at least there is hope out there. -george >From: "Edward Chanter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:17:36 +0100 >

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Simon Horwith
ctor Certified ColdFusion Developer Fig Leaf Software 1400 16th St NW, # 500 Washington DC 20036 202.797.6570 (direct line) www.figleaf.com -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it&#

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
ome who do.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Revenge has it's place OK, at the risk of offending believing Christians here, I can't accept the Mathew quote as a basis for disc

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Edward Chanter
I just want to say that the following is not directed against anyone in particular, it's a reaction to this whole thread. Anyone who could even contemplate valuing human life in terms of how many dollars the person is worth need look no further to find "pure evil" than walk to the nearest mirro

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Larry Lyons
ct: RE: Revenge has it's place Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:59 PM 6/13/01 George wrote: >yeah, but did YOU utilize public school? Did your husband? did your >children? It's easy to reap the benefits and when YOU no longer need it then >deny it to anyonelse. no, no

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Marcus
But taxation isn't about poor people paying more or less then rich people. It's about everyone paying a fair share. If I buy a loaf of bread for $1 and you buy a loaf of bread for $1, why should either of us pay a higher or lower tax, based entirely on how much money we have in savings or net wor

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Larry Lyons
A brief note regarding Paris' and Ray's comments about sales taxes. People with low incomes are hit far harder by sales taxes than people in the middle or upper income brackets. Figure out the math. You buy a loaf of bread for a dollar, and have a 5% sales tax on it. That 5 cents hits you a lot mo

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread George Kaytor
TED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:02:27 -0400 > >At 03:59 PM 6/13/01 George wrote: > >yeah, but did YOU utilize public school? Did your husband? did your > >children? It's easy to reap the benefits and when YOU no longer need it &

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Stewart McGowan
and I was adopted as a child, Maybeline may well be my mom..people like Ray gave kids like me a chance, in your world this would never happen. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 June 2001 11:33 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-14 Thread Raymond Camden
> I'm also beginning to see why people like mabeline and even hard working > marva raise their own soccer teams, because there's plenty of people that > feel they've done their good deed by letting the gov't take taxes > and put a > little to schools. If you feel so strongly about all these poor >

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread John Wilker
en CEO.Developer http://www.exposure.com Exposure.com - Internet Consulting -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place I'm also beginning to see why people like mabelin

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Exposure.com CF
g -Original Message- From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place I'm also beginning to see why people like mabeline and even hard working marva raise their own soccer teams, because t

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread John Wilker
red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com> Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. -Original Message- From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 20

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread John Wilker
Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > and when can I deduct my ferrari... and when can gay couples

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread John Wilker
the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:15 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > cents

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread John Wilker
uot; translated into "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. -Original Message- From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 5:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place Punish adults not children. Judith, try going

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Campbell
At 03:59 PM 6/13/01 George wrote: >yeah, but did YOU utilize public school? Did your husband? did your >children? It's easy to reap the benefits and when YOU no longer need it then >deny it to anyonelse. no, no and no. we all went to private school, as do all the other children in the family.

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:04:45 -0400 > >At 05:12 PM 6/13/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Ah well that's ok then, we'll just ignore these things and they'll all go > >away.your conscience is clear,

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Nick McClure
If you notice the US didn't truly step in until it was attacked. At 12:29 PM 6/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Judith Cambell wrote: > > If the mother doesn't care enough about the child to provide for it, why > > should I? Is there some law that says I have to get emotionally and > > financially inv

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Campbell
At 05:12 PM 6/13/01 +0100, you wrote: >Ah well that's ok then, we'll just ignore these things and they'll all go >away.your conscience is clear, don't worry about it at all, the world >will just suddenly become a better place, and you'll have more >money...everyone's happy! I don't care if ev

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Campbell
At 12:12 PM 6/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >I'm beginning to see why hitler got away with the things that he did. Godwin's Law "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." http://www.catwho.net/godwin.html ~~

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Campbell
At 11:54 AM 6/13/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > > It's a long leap from not wanting to pay for the crappy public school > > system with my taxes dollars to letting crack babies starve. But > >But you have to have a middle ground. Are you simply going to take away all >your money until they 'fix' them

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
Children are liabilities? What happens to our society if not another child is born? -george >From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed,

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
Judith Cambell wrote: > If the mother doesn't care enough about the child to provide for it, why > should I? Is there some law that says I have to get emotionally and > financially involved in solving this problem. I don't think so. I isn't > my problem. I didn't create it and I don't have any

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Stewart McGowan
Ah well that's ok then, we'll just ignore these things and they'll all go away.your conscience is clear, don't worry about it at all, the world will just suddenly become a better place, and you'll have more money...everyone's happy! -Original Message- From: Judith Campbell [mailto:[EM

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
x27;t care if helpless 2 year old starves to death in your own community is entirely another. -george >From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed, 13 J

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
out the concept of a global village? Why do you assume the children are brats? Are they not innocent in this mess? -george >From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's p

Re: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Todd Ashworth
heh, What I think she means is, All your kids are not belong to us! Todd - Original Message - From: "Judith Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: RE: Revenge has it's pla

Re: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
too :) Glad to see you are here Judith! -paris [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judith Dinowitz) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:57:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Revenge has it's

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> > It's a long leap from not wanting to pay for the crappy public school > system with my taxes dollars to letting crack babies starve. But But you have to have a middle ground. Are you simply going to take away all your money until they 'fix' themselves? It's going to be hard to do that w/o an

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Angél Stewart
This is, of course, making the big assumption that women do this to get money benefits. I've no doubt that some do, but there are also others that do not. If the system were not in place, many children would die, or end up homeless on the street. Would you like America to have a generation of str

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Stewart McGowan
n), and I'm happy to celebrate the lives of your children as they then begin to contribute themselves, that's what being a member society entails... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 June 2001 15:58 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Revenge

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > Did you know that Obesity can be genetic? > > -Gel > > > -Original Message- > From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > people I think personally just don't have it so hard here... heck I > regularly see o

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
-Original Message- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:24:31 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > and when can I deduct my ferrari... and when can gay couples get > the > > same treatment and same sex benefits?

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
e) 412-292-3135 (Cellular) [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:15:28 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Lon Lentz
tical system works the way it was designed. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:32 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place Lon, A point about Waco - several independent reports showed that the Davidians started

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:15:28 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > cents of money they didn't work for or contribute into fairly, &

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Stewart McGowan
.or that high calorie junk food is cheaper than your more slim-line versions and more readily available -Original Message- From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 June 2001 15:24 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place Did you know that Obesit

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Campbell
At 08:19 AM 6/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >Punish adults not children. Judith, try going to a shelter and telling a 4 >year old they can't eat today becuase their not your responsibility. I think >if you faced the problem in person, your though pattern would change. > >-george I doubt it. I'm very f

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Stewart McGowan
The point is that you vote for governments (and if you don't vote you can't then complain) they put policies in place that they believe build a better society, this doesn't include making the most disenfranchised people worse off, but helping where possible...now how maternity leave can be seen as

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Campbell
At 08:17 AM 6/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >What did maybelline's children do to deserve the position they are in? Are >you suggesting that we turn our backs on children? What if a child is born >to crack mother, would you say tough shit and let the child starve. "heh its >not my responisbility, the mo

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2001-06-13 Thread Judith Dinowitz
> Geeze, and this is not just a reaction to you, John, but to a few of you > guys on this list, but what's with the attitude against families? (I'm not > trying to attack, just being curious.) I've seen more than one poster talk > about families as if the only people who have kids are on welfare.

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Angél Stewart
Did you know that Obesity can be genetic? -Gel -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] people I think personally just don't have it so hard here... heck I regularly see overweight 'homeless' people in this country... what a hussle that is... ~~~

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2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> and when can I deduct my ferrari... and when can gay couples get the > same treatment and same sex benefits? not that I am gay, but that is Your ferrari doesn't help the country. Children do. As for homesexuals, they _are_, slowly, getting more benefits, more respect. Yes, it needs to improve,

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> Ray good observations, and BTW: my comments are more inciting than per > se the hard reality.. I am hardly as extreme about these things as it > seems... offering a filtered pure view of the inequity.. thats all... Nope, too late, I'm convinced you are pure evil and must be stopped. ;) > I di

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> cents of money they didn't work for or contribute into fairly, should > be made barren until they at least repay such... > Should be made barren? Didn't the Nazis do that? I hope your joking. Maybe I'm missing something. Haven't welfare rolls shrunk considerably over the last few years? Do we

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Edward Chanter
What's "Reality"? > -Original Message- > Does anyone that lives in Reality do that? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm ~~~

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
From: "George Kaytor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:19:16 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > Punish adults not children. Judith, try going to a shelter and > telling a 4 > year old they can't eat today becuase their not your responsibility. >

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
rge Kaytor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:17:20 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > What did maybelline's children do to deserve the position they are > in? Are > you suggesting that we turn our backs on children? What if a child is > born

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Daniel Lancelot
easier said than done :) I try to... -Original Message- From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 June 2001 21:26 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place And trust to God to save you? :) Does anyone that lives in Reality do that? -Gel -Ori

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2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
;t punish me because I choose not to reproduce... -paris [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 07:58:28 -0400 Subject:

Re: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Judith Dinowitz
F-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > And trust to God to save you? > :) > > Does anyone that lives in Reality do that? > > -Gel > > > -Original Message- > From: Judith Campbell [

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Larry Lyons
, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- -Original Message- From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place I'm not in any way going to agree with McVeigh's actions. But you would ha

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread Paris Lundis
. -paris [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:59:11 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > &

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2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
your kids went to private school? you went to private school? -george >From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:16:22 -0400 &

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2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
I feel sorry for you. I really do. -george >From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:52:21 -0400 > >I started the r

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2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:30:36 -0400 > >At 11:51 PM 6/12/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Some of these people didn't plan on having kids, they are kinda strange >i

RE: Revenge has it's place

2001-06-13 Thread George Kaytor
knees shut". Sorta reminds me of that commercial, Damn that's COLD! -george >From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place >Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:09:13

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2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> Government subsidies and public school taxation never provided squat > for me. I saw the need and the means and sought it. I don't think it > is some gift or I was lucky. I applied myself. I studied those that > made it. I absorbed technology like most people sat around absorbing > TV... wh

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2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> >What about the Marva down at the trailer park who only has 2 > children and a > >job that pays slightly over minimum wage. Should we tax her > enough to cover > >the cost of educating her kids... tax her enough so that she can't afford > >food. > [deletia] > If our tax dollars weren't going to

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2001-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden
> I grew up poor.. My family never benefited from government welfare > directly, only tax bracket wise. I started working when I was thirteen > and made a go since then. Did you go to a public school? Yes or no? > I learned being poor sucked and to overcome such you must work and > constantly

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2001-06-13 Thread Edward Chanter
> -Original Message- > If you start using that arguement, then we could state that Hitler thought > that taking over Europe was the only way he could make his point... um, he did > Blaming killing people on upbringing and sociological conditioning i the > biggest "I wasn't my fault"

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2001-06-12 Thread Paris Lundis
t, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Judith Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 00:09:13 -0400 Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > At 10:59 PM 6/12/01 Raymond wrote: > >What about the Marva d

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2001-06-12 Thread Judith Campbell
At 11:51 PM 6/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >Some of these people didn't plan on having kids, they are kinda strange in >that sometimes they just happen. now 99% of the time it can be prevented >before hand. And lets please not get into abortion. but mistakes happen, >and she is trying. Kids do not "ju

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2001-06-12 Thread Judith Campbell
At 10:59 PM 6/12/01 Raymond wrote: >What about the Marva down at the trailer park who only has 2 children and a >job that pays slightly over minimum wage. Should we tax her enough to cover >the cost of educating her kids... tax her enough so that she can't afford >food. First of all, I'm not anti

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2001-06-12 Thread Nick McClure
om> > >Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi Brings >Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. > > >-Original Message- >From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:

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2001-06-12 Thread John Wilker
;http://www.red-omega.com> Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. -----Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:00 PM To: CF

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2001-06-12 Thread John Wilker
tp://www.red-omega.com> Pepsi's "Come Alive With the Pepsi Generation" translated into "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back From the Grave" in Chinese. -Original Message- From: Dave Fobare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:50 PM To: CF-Communi

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2001-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden
> This may not be a popular opinion and I know it would never fly, > unfortunately, but China was (I'm not sure if this is still the > policy) but > 2 kids is enough. I know some of us have more and all but way too many > people treat babies as paychecks, and I'd give up my right to 3 or more if

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2001-06-12 Thread Dave Fobare
The best control for the population explosion? Capitalism. Works for the western world; it would work for China eventually as well. Actually, I guess something else would work too: Stalinism. That worked for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and others as well. >This may not be a popular opinion and I kno

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2001-06-12 Thread John Wilker
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place At 03:12 PM 6/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >education is the key to the future of our nation. It also gives everyone a >chance at success regardless of their parents success.

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2001-06-12 Thread John Wilker
hrist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place What are people's thoughts on the idea that a person rotting in jail for the rest of their lives is punishment enough for any crime? It's interesting that in I

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2001-06-12 Thread Jon Hall
ommunity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place > > What's wrong with being selfish? I paid for my kids' education. They are > grown. Why should have I to pay for a bunch more kid

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2001-06-12 Thread Exposure.com CF
>> Tyrannical(tm) Who's got the trademark on that word? -Original Message- From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Revenge has it's place I'm not in any way going to agree with McVeigh

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2001-06-12 Thread Judith Campbell
At 03:12 PM 6/12/01 -0400, you wrote: >education is the key to the future of our nation. It also gives everyone a >chance at success regardless of their parents success. (True we don't have >equal oppurtunities now, but can you imagine what it would be like not going >to school at all?) To jeopord

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2001-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden
time I checked, children help keep our species alive. You see, people are shareware. They tend to expire after 70-80 years. ;) Raymond Camden > -Original Message- > From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:12 PM > To: CF-Community >

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