Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
When I took the combat engineering course during my time with the Canadian Armed Forces, I was very familiar with how effective RDX is. We destroyed an old Sherman Tank with only about 5 pounds of the stuff. larry On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:50:01 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Larr

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: > 380 tons is not decimal dust. Considering that only one pound of RDX > destroyed that Pan-Am flight over Lockerbie Scotland, that's a lot of > potential hurt. Not to diminish the danger of the stuff, but it doesn't take much of an explosion to take out an aircraft. They are press

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
380 tons is not decimal dust. Considering that only one pound of RDX destroyed that Pan-Am flight over Lockerbie Scotland, that's a lot of potential hurt. When these explosvies are used by terrorists, I'll certainly be reminding you of your decimal dust comment. Its one of your more reprehensible

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-01 Thread Sam Morris
No. Quote slate. --- Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I quote you on that when the first jetliner goes > down? > > > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:34:26 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 400,000 tons of the estimated 650,000 to 1 million > > tons of Iraqi munitions

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > You missed the point. They think ther was 1 millin > tons. They got most of it and already destroyed at > least ten times what was believed to exist. We're crossing wires here - what I'm saying is that when asked about the Al Quqaa site the Pentagon didn't and still doesn't have an ac

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-01 Thread Tyler Clendenin
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Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-01 Thread Marlon Moyer
I wonder why we didn't lob some missles into it to blow it up during the first strikes? On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:30:01 -0800 (PST), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You missed the point. They think ther was 1 millin > tons. They got most of it and already destroyed at > least ten times what

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-01 Thread Marlon Moyer
Can I quote you on that when the first jetliner goes down? On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 00:34:26 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 400,000 tons of the estimated 650,000 to 1 million > tons of Iraqi munitions have been destroyed or will be > destroyed. Obsessing about the missing 380 ton

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-11-01 Thread Jerry Johnson
Sammy, How many American soldiers and civilians will be killed by that "decimal dust"? Is that the Bush Administrations latest lie? that 380,000 tons of high explosives in the hands of terrorists is "no big deal". Even at his worst, Saddam never put 380,000 tons of high explosives in the hands

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-31 Thread Sam Morris
You missed the point. They think ther was 1 millin tons. They got most of it and already destroyed at least ten times what was believed to exist. So 380 tons is a very small amount in comparison. But you bring up a good point. Why did the UN leave them there? --- Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTE

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2004-10-31 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > 400,000 tons of the estimated 650,000 to 1 million > tons of Iraqi munitions have been destroyed or will be > destroyed. Obsessing about the missing 380 tons is > obsessing about decimal dust. For me the issue is that this was an IAEA tagged site and therefore the Pentagon should know

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-31 Thread Howie Hamlin
Since it would take 1 lb. of the stuff to down a commercial airliner I don't think 380 tons should be considered insignificant. --- On Sunday, October 31, 2004 2:34 AM, Sam Morris scribed: --- > > 400,000 tons of the estimated 650,000 to 1 million > tons of Iraqi munitions have been destroyed or

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-31 Thread Sam Morris
Looks liek the spins not coming from the Whitehouse. http://slate.msn.com/id/210/ --- Sandy Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder how this is going to get spun by the > Administration? __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-31 Thread Sam Morris
400,000 tons of the estimated 650,000 to 1 million tons of Iraqi munitions have been destroyed or will be destroyed. Obsessing about the missing 380 tons is obsessing about decimal dust. http://slate.msn.com/id/210/ --- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
whoever leaked this may well have been trying to ambush the president. The New York TImes was just reporting what appears to be a substantiated story On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:06:11 -0400, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert wrote: > >> The plot thickens > > > >Somewhat, but I

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-30 Thread dana tierney
it's pretty easy to get a negative opinion about Bush though. Someone accused me the other day of unconditional support of Kerry. Heheh. If Kerry trashed the constitution, put us billions in debt and set civil liberties and science back a few decades, I might not favor Kerry. Tax cut or no tax cut

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
Jim wrote: > Not anything personal about Andy, but this just tripped something. I think > we need a new "Hitler" rule. ROTFL - It would interesting to have Won do a Monte Carlo simulation on the mean number of posts to Hitler. By observation I'd say on this list it's about 40.

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Jim Davis
t: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:43 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control Does your tape ever get tired of playing the same song? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott That tells me that the Pentagon didn't have enough tro

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > Does your tape ever get tired of playing the same song? Surprisingly, no. This is because I'm fascinated with the reasoning behind voting for Mr. Bush and I can't get enough of hearing about it. It's like watching your shipmates sail for St. Elmo's Fire while you head for land in

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Does your tape ever get tired of playing the same song? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott That tells me that the Pentagon didn't have enough troops in country to cover IAEA sites so Al Qaqaa became a lower priority. ~~~

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not surprised at all that it took a few days to figure out exactly what happened > to a very small fraction of that material from a particular bunker. But they still can't answer the question! And the Pentagon isn't saying, "gee, we're stilling findi

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
>> Robert wrote: >> The plot thickens > >Somewhat, but I still say the issue is, shouldn't the Pentgon know >immediately what happened at Al Qaqaa? That is, if the IAEA tagged >this site and the US knew about it, doesn't the fact that nobody can >really account for the HE say it all? Had the

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
It still wouldn't fly... -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:17 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control Perhaps we'd be better off with a Mallard over

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread William Bowen
Perhaps we'd be better off with a Mallard over a dullard... -- -- will "Quacker-ass quacker!" bowen "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Purchase from Hou

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
lol. And sometimes a wise-quacker! -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 2:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control > Andy wrote: > They could be running Donald Duck an

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Andy wrote: > They could be running Donald Duck and most of those voting for Kerry would > vote for the duck instead. Quack Quack. ha! By that definition I'm a quacker. Quack. Quack. ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressio

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Why is that surprising? This election is not about Kerry, it is about Bush. They could be running Donald Duck and most of those voting for Kerry would vote for the duck instead. Quack Quack. -Original Message- From: G The funny thing is, while the righties are spinning "Bush is all kno

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > The plot thickens Somewhat, but I still say the issue is, shouldn't the Pentgon know immediately what happened at Al Qaqaa? That is, if the IAEA tagged this site and the US knew about it, doesn't the fact that nobody can really account for the HE say it all? For example, le

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > I think the popular political euphemism for popularity is "electability". Excellent observation! ~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hostin

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
Latest flash: FLASH 10.29.04 11:36:56 ET /// Soldier to brief reporters at Pentagon within the hour that he was tasked with removing explosives from al QaQaa and he and his unit removed 200+ tons... Officer was ordered to join the 101st airborne on April 13 -- to destroy conventional explosives

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread G
Yep. I think the popular political euphemism for popularity is "electability". - Original Message - From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Video Sugge

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Howie Hamlin
the Republicans - I doubt that Bush is the most qualified Republican. - Original Message - From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared Af

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread G
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control > > Brian wrote: > > The funny thing is, while the righties are spinning "Bush is all knowing" > > Yeah, good point. > > On

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > The funny thing is, while the righties are spinning "Bush is all knowing" Yeah, good point. On the funnier side, I've heard many people comment that the latest Bush spin seems to be, "Hey if you think Bush is bad, Kerry is worse!"

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread G
The funny thing is, while the righties are spinning "Bush is all knowing" like you said, the lefty spin is quite different. You don't see many lefties saying "Kerry is all knowing!". Their spin is generally also pointed at Bushmostly "Bush is all wrong". As for blindly followingI don't kno

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
I thought someone had a good comment last night. After Mayor Rudy's comments yesterday blaming the soldiers on the ground for the loss of the weapons, this was the comment: "Finally, someone brave enough to support the war but not support the troops." Funny. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Howie Hamlin
eople make the association... - Original Message - From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 10:36 AM Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control > > San

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > The type of "spin" you see coming from the Bush admin shouldn't surprise OR > influence you It's not the Whitehouse spin that's necessarily surprising. They at least started correctly by saying, "We've secured 10 times that. Some were bound to fall through the cracks." It'

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sandy wrote: > I wonder how this is going to get spun by the Administration? I watched MSNBC's Scarborough Country last night with guest host Laura Ingrahm and was laughing out loud. She changed the commentary from "Kerry is an idiot, he doesn't know what he's talking about, this will all blo

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Sandy Clark
tober 29, 2004 9:57 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control Does it matter? Spinning negative stories to blunt their affect isn't something the Bush administration invented. The best you can hope to do is read a non-biased factual acco

Re: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread G
uldn't surprise OR influence you >From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 8:48 AM >Subject: RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control &

RE: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control

2004-10-29 Thread Sandy Clark
I wonder how this is going to get spun by the Administration? -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:36 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Video Suggests Explosives Disappeared After U.S. Took Control Oct. 28, 2004 - The strongest