Ok...they went to a heavy metal concert and now they're complaining the
music was too loud? *Grumble Grumble* Stupid sue happy society.
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Whitesnake (the band)
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote:
Ok...they went to a heavy metal concert and now they're complaining the
music was too loud? *Grumble Grumble* Stupid sue happy society.
Shit, I just spilled McDonnalds coffee on my lap, while driving... Think I
got
and if you don't have ear plugs, a bit of toilet paper in ya ear
works WONDERS... kills all the treble, and you can actually
start to hear the voices of the singers... staple for me since
being soundman from 21-25
w0rd
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Casey Dougall
On 7/1/2010 9:02 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Sisk, Krisks...@gckschools.com wrote:
Ok...they went to a heavy metal concert and now they're complaining the
music was too loud? *Grumble Grumble* Stupid sue happy society.
Shit, I just spilled McDonnalds coffee on
or pop the filters off of a couple of cigarettes... kinda kills the
midrange but at least your not deaf
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ras Tafari rastaf...@gmail.com wrote:
and if you don't have ear plugs, a bit of toilet paper in ya ear
works WONDERS... kills all the treble, and you can
I don't ever remember seeing anything about her being a passenger. The
point was though that she was holding a hot cup of coffee between her
legs...no very smart. Regardless of the heat, McDonalds shouldn't have had
to pay for her own stupid actions. It's called hot coffee for a reason.
Not another Stella defender.
I guess someone needs to support the stupid :)
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote:
If your going to use that as your WTF case, you may want to get better
information then late night talk show hosts.
1) She wasn't driving. She
On 7/1/2010 9:29 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
I don't ever remember seeing anything about her being a passenger. The
point was though that she was holding a hot cup of coffee between her
legs...no very smart. Regardless of the heat, McDonalds shouldn't have had
to pay for her own stupid
On 7/1/2010 9:29 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
The point was though that she was holding a hot cup of coffee between her
legs...no very smart.
Accept, according to court transcripts, she wasn't. She was holding it
in one hand, while taking the lid off with the other, and the cup
collapsed.
On 7/1/2010 9:33 AM, Sam wrote:
Not another Stella defender.
I guess someone needs to support the stupid :)
I just support making ones judgments from the actually facts as
presented in the court case, not gleaned from late night talk show hosts.
Start from there and make intelligent
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
I don't ever remember seeing anything about her being a passenger. The
point was though that she was holding a hot cup of coffee between her
legs...no very smart. Regardless of the heat, McDonalds
I'd want to see a doctor's testimony on that. It takes a hell of a lot
of heat to cause third degree burns.
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From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:30 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Whitesnake (the band) loses appeal in
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote:
On 7/1/2010 9:33 AM, Sam wrote:
Not another Stella defender.
I guess someone needs to support the stupid :)
I just support making ones judgments from the actually facts as
presented in the court case, not gleaned from
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote:
If your going to use that as your WTF case, you may want to get better
information then late night talk show hosts.
1) She wasn't driving. She was in the passenger seat. And the car
wasn't moving, it was parked in the
On 7/1/2010 10:35 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm
Liebeck placed the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic
lid from the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup
spilled into her lap.
Oops, been too long since I've
On 7/1/2010 9:37 AM, G Money wrote:
Yes, but you missed the REAL reason the suit had merit:
Actually, I intentionally did not speak to the merit of the case. Just
the prevalence of people to form opinions based on facts that are not
actually factual.
Putting a cup between your knees is not a really smart thing to do...that is
exerting a lot of pressure from both sides...she probably squeezed it so
much that it collapsed. I would also question the 3rd degree burns. That
would require longer term exposure to the liquid at the high heat.
But I guess you just 'knew' all that didn't you.
*pssst* ... he was using sarcasm.
-Justin
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On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
This woman was injured because of her own
stupidity.
This woman was permanently scarred because she was served a scalding
liquida SCALDING...liquid. You understand what that means, right?
Had she been
On 7/1/2010 11:00 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
Putting a cup between your knees is not a really smart thing to do...that is
exerting a lot of pressure from both sides...she probably squeezed it so
much that it collapsed. I would also question the 3rd degree burns. That
would require longer term
Most restaurants serve coffee at 190 degrees. Dunkin Donuts and a list
of other national chains still do.
Funny how you don't read about similar lawsuits.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote:
On 7/1/2010 11:00 AM, Eric Roberts wrote:
Putting a cup between your
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Most restaurants serve coffee at 190 degrees. Dunkin Donuts and a list
of other national chains still do.
Funny how you don't read about similar lawsuits.
ARe you sure about that? I find that highly doubtful. Since the
On 7/1/2010 11:50 AM, Sam wrote:
Most restaurants serve coffee at 190 degrees. Dunkin Donuts and a list
of other national chains still do.
Funny how you don't read about similar lawsuits.
Also funny how they don't use Styrofoam anymore
I remember this from the last time we discussed this. Too lazy to look
it up so I'll use wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants#cite_ref-16
Though defenders of the Liebeck verdict argue that her coffee was
unusually hotter than other coffee sold, other major
http://www.esnider.net/2004/08/30/was-mcdonalds-coffee-too-hot-for-stella-li
ebeck/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants
The Wiki article points out that most other coffee vendors...as well as home
coffee makers brew at the 195-205 degree range and they recommend
I see no sign that they changed their cup design since 1992
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote:
On 7/1/2010 11:50 AM, Sam wrote:
Most restaurants serve coffee at 190 degrees. Dunkin Donuts and a list
of other national chains still do.
Funny how you don't
What do they use now...I don't buy McD's coffee...last time I did have it,
it was still in a Styrofoam cup...though most places have stopped using
Styrofoam for environmental reasons...
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From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:10 PM
The reason behind the temps, according to coffee makers, is that in order to
properly dissolve the essential oils to prevent premature breakdown of the
oils is to brew it in the 195-205 degree range.
Eric
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July
She got burned because (she's an idiot) the coffee spilled on to her
sweat pants and rather than pull them down in front of her grandson
she sat there and stewed her beef curtains.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
The Styrofoam they use now is denser than what they used to use.
-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:13 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Whitesnake (the band) loses appeal in courtkind of
funny.
What do
@Eric.. they put directions on toothpicks. people can be really
really stupid
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
http://www.esnider.net/2004/08/30/was-mcdonalds-coffee-too-hot-for-stella-li
ebeck/
Because of teh lawsuit or technology?
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote:
The Styrofoam they use now is denser than what they used to use.
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I make no guesses on that note. Could be either or both. Honestly though
I don't think a heavier cup would help if you're dumb enough to put a
cup of hot coffee between your knees.
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:37 PM
To:
...and then remove the lid
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Sisk, Kris ks...@gckschools.com wrote:
I make no guesses on that note. Could be either or both. Honestly though
I don't think a heavier cup would help if you're dumb enough to put a
cup of hot coffee between your knees.
I don't think that manufacturers should be held responsible though for
people's stupidity...if they are negligent and that negligence resulted in
injury, that is one thing, but if you do something stupid...that is you own
damn fault. Just lie if you go to concert where loud music is played and
My point exactly.
-Original Message-
From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:44 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Whitesnake (the band) loses appeal in courtkind of funny.
I make no guesses on that note. Could be either or both. Honestly
On 7/1/2010 12:12 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
What do they use now...
Isn't a heavy, coated paper cup the industry standard, not a cup made of
small balls pressed together with heat.
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On 7/1/2010 12:35 PM, Sam wrote:
the coffee spilled on to her sweat pants and rather than pull them down in
front of her grandson
she sat there
And viola, so much a stronger argument based on facts of the case, not
hearsay and comedian's jokes.
Hey be careful. You know how those on the extreme will react and also
have loud temper tantrums when you actually show how their great myth
is a lie. And this is one that is near and dear to the hearts of many
on the extreme right.
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ian Skinner wrote:
On 7/1/2010 12:35 PM, Sam wrote:
the coffee spilled on to her sweat pants and rather than pull them down in
front of her grandson
she sat there
And viola, so much a stronger argument based on facts of the case, not
hearsay and
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