CF-Comm Monkey Challenge!!!
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
A 1.3 mile rope monkey bridge - that would be a fun one
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Beth In Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would be a hell of a tourist attraction too!! I'd go
eh if you follow that logic though a lot of rural places out west
would still be roadless wildernesses. There may be an argument against
using federal funds, thought i am sure sure I'd agree with it. But
state? Gimme a break.
Personally I I am rather glad there's a road to Chaco Canyon, even if
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
eh if you follow that logic though a lot of rural places out west
would still be roadless wildernesses. There may be an argument against
using federal funds, thought i am sure sure I'd agree with it. But
state? Gimme a break.
If you look at this on Google maps - *http://tinyurl.com/5ql7y5
Then it seems like a no-brainer to build a bridge... **Yeah, bridge to
nowhere isn't quite a fair label looking at the map.
**But is there something wrong with just keeping the ferry as transport or
is it a convenience factor?
I think the real question is, who paid for the airport? And why was a
decision made not to build a bridge when the airport was built?
I mean, building an airport in a hard to reach place and then
insisting that the federal govt build you a bridge to get to it,*is* a
little fishy sounding.
I smell pork.
2008/9/11 Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the real question is, who paid for the airport? And why was a
decision made not to build a bridge when the airport was built?
I mean, building an airport in a hard to reach place and then
insisting that the federal govt
Great point. I assume it's the largest piece of land around convenient and
flat enough to build?
Definitely pretty insane not to have added a bridge to the budget if they
insisted on building on an island.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I think the
Just a guess, but I bet the same people paid for the airport that paid for
the bridge.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Great point. I assume it's the largest piece of land around convenient and
flat enough to build?
Definitely pretty insane not to have
Now that's planning and management of funds for you isn't it.
Just what you want to see in a commander in chief.
2008/9/11 Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Great point. I assume it's the largest piece of land around convenient and
flat enough to build?
Definitely pretty insane not to have
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that's planning and management of funds for you isn't it.
Just what you want to see in a commander in chief.
AFAIK, neither Obama of McCain supported this bridge? Or do you mean
Bush supported it?
-Cameron
, 2008 3:45 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
If you look at this on Google maps - *http://tinyurl.com/5ql7y5
Then it seems like a no-brainer to build a bridge... **Yeah, bridge to
nowhere isn't quite a fair label looking at the map.
**But is there something wrong with just
Which reminds me - I am very thankful that we have a country so big - with
so many diverse weather zones, that we have a choice of what kind of weather
or area we want to experience. Unlike, for example, the majority of Russia.
shudders from the cold or Greenland.
Kudos too you peeps who can live
Obama and Biden voted twice to fund the bridge to nowhere instead of
fixing a bridge destroyed by Katrina. Twice.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Vivec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that's planning and management of
Erika wrote:
Great point. I assume it's the largest piece of land around convenient and
flat enough to build?
It's really a question of investment vs. pork.
For example, the tax payers of Atlanta might want to pay for a second
airport because the first is overbooked and a second would bring
Sam wrote:
Obama and Biden voted twice to fund the bridge to nowhere instead of
fixing a bridge destroyed by Katrina. Twice.
J'ACCUSE!
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**But is there something wrong with just keeping the ferry as transport or
is it a convenience factor? Asking out of curiosity because I don't know
how
truly busy the place is... is a bridge warranted? If it is - why is
everyone
so opposed to it?
People are opposed to it because there
More details.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Y2FiMjBlNWE0ZTJhNDBjZWExYzA2M2M5MWZkYmFlN2I=
But Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens (presently under indictment on corruption
charges) played hardball, ominously stating:
I come to warn the Senate, if you want a wounded bull on the floor
of the
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From: Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:22 AM
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
I think the real question is, who paid for the airport? And why was a
decision made not to build
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its the only safe place to build it. There are mountains all around.
That may be why it was built in that location, but it doesn't answer
the question of why an airport was built with no good way to get to
it. Like
Ya know - I know a few people that would do this ... LOL
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Like building a 2 car garage on your roof because you don't have
any other place to put it and then complaining that you can't get your
cars into it.
I have seen a house with a yard, grass, on the roof!
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From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:16 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
Ya know - I know a few people that would do this ... LOL
On Thu
Site?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obama and Biden voted twice to fund the bridge to nowhere instead of
fixing a bridge destroyed by Katrina. Twice.
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Here's another one:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/10/opinion/main4435937.shtml
Obama and Biden had an excellent opportunity to do the right thing.
Just seven weeks after Hurricane Katrina, Senator Tom Coburn (R.,
Okla.) proposed to transfer $125 million from the notorious Bridge's
budget
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From: Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its the only safe
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you know, I assume the people in ketchikan needed to leave occasionally.
Thats why it was built.
I didn't ask why it was built. I asked why it was built without a
bridge in it's plan.
-Cameron
ROFLMAO
NO! They cannot leave! If people choose to live in such a far off corner of
the frozen tundra then that's their fault! No leaving for them! Walk! They
will get somewhere eventually! Use a dog sled, a donke, an ox or a horse!
But no planes for them! At least one year! No planes!
In
Yeah hell, if they raised the ferry fee by a buck or two - the ferry could
fund a bridge, of course I see it would put ferry operators in a bind ... so
that's a catch 22
I'd rather take a ferry anyway. I'll always take the Cape May Ferry over
driving through Washington, DC to get through the
didn't we just say it was an air transportation hub? to me that says
that there are probably people coming from pretty far away to take an
airplane, and they would not really be tourists . For instance, they
would probably not have a hotel stay.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Cameron Childress
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From: Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you know, I assume
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
didn't we just say it was an air transportation hub? to me that says
that there are probably people coming from pretty far away to take an
airplane, and they would not really be tourists . For instance, they
would probably not
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cant' say for sure but I'll assume that it began as a tiny airstrip like
most of our places. Some guy in a boat probably shuttled all four residents
back and forth to the mainland. Things here grow organically
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From: Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
ROFLMAO
NO! They cannot leave! If people choose to live in such a far off corner
Ketchikan serves as both an
air
and marine transportation hub for southern Southeast
Alaskahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Panhandle
This is very true - all the tiny villages around dont'have air service to
seattle or anchorage - you have to hire an air taxi or take a boat to
ketchikan
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From: Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: the bridge to nowhere
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In other
Cameron, if you'd like to develop a business plan for funding the ketchikan
bridge via tourist dollars I'm sure they'd love to have it.
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On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Canneries have tremendous seasonal draw - its probably partially tourism
(but not a huge tourist area in terms of flying - the cruise ships stop
there) but mostly probably cannery employees. 8000 is year round people.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cameron, if you'd like to develop a business plan for funding the ketchikan
bridge via tourist dollars I'm sure they'd love to have it.
Heh... I just saw a stat that the airport only gets 200,000 passengers
a year. I
We have lots of bridge here. It costs 4 or 5 dollars for each car to
cross them going into the city. It's free to cross going out of the
city. They aren't even close to be being self-supporting.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Erika L. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah hell, if they
doesn't this fall under infrastructure? I.e, something taxes are
*supposed* to do? I don't see why a bridge should have to be
self-supporting. Sounds like a recipe for more interstate bridge
collapses to me. On the other hand, this sounds like more of a
regional issue to me, so it probably should
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Dana wrote:
collapses to me. On the other hand, this sounds like more of a
regional issue to me, so it probably should have been paid for with
state not federal funds. But that might have reduced the size of the
rebate that got sent out. Ah, the dilemmas.
Yeah - I went and looked it up after I posted that. Fascinating little place
added it to a list of must see places.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Beth Fleischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Its a fishing town!! they provide you salmon!
Yeah, but we were just thinking outside the box having some fun building a
bridge with tourism dollars. Perhaps it could be a rope bridge for foot
traffic instead ;) Now that would be a challenge!
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Dana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
doesn't this fall under
A 1.3 mile rope monkey bridge - that would be a fun one
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Beth In Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would be a hell of a tourist attraction too!! I'd go there just to walk it!
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I did one of the Alaska cruises a few years ago, but we didn't hit
Ketchikan. We did Skagway, Sitka, and Juneau. Having seen the
coastline and the sea during the most hospitable time of year (August)
I can understand why people would want a bridge rather than a ferry.
I'm not sure I'd want to be
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