Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-18 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yes. But what I meant was I saw first hand how having a kid at a young age dramatically alters your life. I am not going to go into detail but suffice it to say that it was not pretty. Bruce G Money wrote: > > Weren't YOU the consequences of these actions? > ~

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-18 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
and look how bad that turned out! I mean really, how many people do we need that will give up a chunk of their lives to defend this country. zB I've been mad for fucking years, absolutely years. I've been over the edge for yonks. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 8:12 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-18 Thread G Money
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I am an illegitimate child of a 14 year old girl who was careless as > well, which is why it really bothers me, because I know the consequences > of these actions. > > Bruce > > Weren't YOU the consequences of these acti

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Maureen
I married at 16. My husband was in the army. We waited until he returned from Southeast Asia, then we bought a house, settled in and started our family. Nice home, financially stable, I give birth to two kids. By the time the oldest started school, hubby was gone, and I was the single parent wi

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Dana
::knock on wood:: My daughter is pretty unmanageable but in a sensible way, wierd as that may seem. She turned 16 yesterday so perhaps the fifteen-ness will subside. I think at about this age there is little to do but hang on and pray that that she was listening before. She did decide that I was

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, I love that song. Hits home for sure. Maureen wrote: > Have you heard the country song "Cleaning my gun"? It speaks to the > dilemma of all father's of teen-age girls. Glad I only have boys. > > Having sex is a biological imperative, and the hormones kick in at > puberty. All teens want

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Sorge
19 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > Rush? C'mon now, how old were you when you first did it. 20 years ago 17 > was about the norm too in my area ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date G

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Sorge
I guess I should have mentioned that she was sexually active at 14. And I am aware that this has been going on for a while, I just did not know it was as prevalent as it is now or as you said, it was hidden better. And I am an illegitimate child of a 14 year old girl who was careless as well, w

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Sorge
None taken. I don't think that is is parenting anymore really. I mean, my ex and I (when we were married) had *the talk* with her when she was 13. I assumed that it sunk in. I bought her the movie 13 in the hopes that she would see what a downward spiral drugs and sex at a young age is, but I t

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> It's the kind of decision that can dictate all of your future quality > of life. IMO, if waiting a few years lowers the risk - do it! And then you have people like my wife's cousin and his girlfriend, who had a baby when she was 18 and he was 17; now he's in and out of jail with alcohol and vio

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Deanna wrote: > before I procreated. I think there's a happy medium between poverty > and independently wealthy. > True dat. I just get worried about these kind of parents. One the one hand: married, employed, young. On the other: debt, recession, young career. It's the kind of decision that

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
exactly! :) On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Deanna Schneider < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Not for me, but I can see how others would be comfortable with it. > > For me, I need work to be an option not a requirement when I have > > kids. a

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Deanna Schneider
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > Not for me, but I can see how others would be comfortable with it. > For me, I need work to be an option not a requirement when I have > kids. and it sure ain't that way now. I doubt many parents are at the point where "work is an option, not a

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Maureen
Have you heard the country song "Cleaning my gun"? It speaks to the dilemma of all father's of teen-age girls. Glad I only have boys. Having sex is a biological imperative, and the hormones kick in at puberty. All teens want to have sex, always have, always will. However, teen pregnancies ar

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Erika wrote: > Have all the sex in the world, but until you're not only financially able > to This is an interesting question. I've got some older friends with a 26 year old who's just married and they're immediately looking to start a family. They're both employed college grads, but the guy w

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
Look - sex is one thing - it's the getting pregnant part that people should definitely be worried about. Have all the sex in the world, but until you're not only financially able to, but at least "mature" enough to handle raising another kid, have safe sex! ~~

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Rush? C'mon now, how old were you when you first did it. 20 years ago 17 was about the norm too in my area. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, having a 17 year old daughter who is sexually active is the scary > part for me. I'm too young to be a gra

RE: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:41 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Sad Freecycle > > Yeah, having a 17 year old daughter who is sexually active is the scary > part for me. I'm too y

RE: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I don't either and this one is much younger than that ... > > Boredom? Parenting? Peer pressure? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25272678/ Don't know if this article made the rounds when it first came out... very scary and sad. ~~~

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
OH! And don't take offense by the way ... the Parenting remark wasnt directed towards your situation, I'm talking about these 13-15 year olds getting pregnant ... On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't either and this one is much younger than that ..

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
I don't either and this one is much younger than that ... Boredom? Parenting? Peer pressure? On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, having a 17 year old daughter who is sexually active is the scary > part for me. I'm too young to be a grandpa. I don't und

Re: Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, having a 17 year old daughter who is sexually active is the scary part for me. I'm too young to be a grandpa. I don't understand what the rush is these day to have sex. Erika L. Walker wrote: > Had a post today looking for maternity clothes ... for a very young > teenager. Very very young.

Sad Freecycle

2008-07-17 Thread Erika L. Walker
Had a post today looking for maternity clothes ... for a very young teenager. Very very young. That was sad. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.dou