All the natural disaster refugees will have all the fried clams they
can eat! :)
> Well, once the bridge to connecticut at the end of the
> Seaford-Oyster Bay Expressway is built ...
>
> --- On Thursday, September 01, 2005 4:13 PM, Sam scribed:
> ---
>>
>> Long Island has evacuation plans but w
Well, once the bridge to connecticut at the end of the Seaford-Oyster Bay
Expressway is built ...
--- On Thursday, September 01, 2005 4:13 PM, Sam scribed: ---
>
> Long Island has evacuation plans but we all know they can't work. Some
> times you just need to pray it doesn't happen.
>
~~
Long Island has evacuation plans but we all know they can't work. Some
times you just need to pray it doesn't happen.
On 9/1/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
> Still, if you live in a city like NO, there should be an evacuation
> plan that takes all of that into account. Do you think now that the
> worst ha
The folks at Direct-NIC are blogging here from their building in NOLA.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
On 9/1/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> 2) Are there any data centers that got blitzed? Are there any
> significant data centers in the flood zone or in
Problem is, hurricane categories are dependant upon wind speed. I don't see
where the wind speed matters much when it comes to levees?
If the levees are against the storm surge from the sea, then the wind speed is
very relevant to how high that surge is going to be.
--
Ian Skinner
>2) Are there any data centers that got blitzed? Are there any
>significant data centers in the flood zone or in the destruction zone?
> Did the owners of these data centers build them like fortresses so
>that they are still standing? Are they still running under some
>disaster plan with generato
shouldn't the mayor have ordered the entire town evacuated?
It is my understanding the mayor did order the evacuation. But evacuating
large cities takes a very long time, and lots and lots of people seem to
believe in the freedom of staying because they won't be affected or protecting
their pr
ScubaLooter.com
5) I also wonder about what NO will look like 10 years from now. Will
they react by building some super massive flood prevention system and
a series of barriers out at sea? And most importantly, if they do
build a super huge, super cool hurricane system will there be a
Discovery
> Larry wrote:
> From what I read the levee was designed to withstand a storm surge
> from a Category 3 hurricane, not one of a whole magnitude stronger.
>
If that's the case, I guess I'm a little surprised. Clearly some
study was done on the probabilities of the hurricanes, the costs of a
breec
According to the news I am watching right now. During their governors news
conference they said how the mayor of the city sent buses throughout the
city trying to get people to leave the city before the storm. They described
it as "pleading" with them to get out but said many had lasted through
> ScubaLooter.com
> 5) I also wonder about what NO will look like 10 years
> from now. Will
> they react by building some super massive flood prevention
> system and
> a series of barriers out at sea? And most importantly, if
> they do
> build a super huge, super cool hurricane system will there
There was a $20 toll to get out of the city?
> Sadly, a lot of the people simply could not afford to pay
> the 20 Bucks to leave.
> The poverty in New Orleans that this reveals is just...
> They couldn't afford to leave.
> On 9/1/05, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> shouldn't the mayo
> Gel wrote:
> Sadly, a lot of the people simply could not afford to pay the 20 Bucks to
> leave.
> The poverty in New Orleans that this reveals is just...
>
I think you're right. If you don't have a car, don't have the money,
etc what are you going to do? If you're old you just sit in your
li
right. It was the poor, the elderly and the sick who got it.
Dana
On 9/1/05, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sadly, a lot of the people simply could not afford to pay the 20 Bucks to
> leave.
> The poverty in New Orleans that this reveals is just...
>
> They couldn't afford to leave.
>
> On
Sadly, a lot of the people simply could not afford to pay the 20 Bucks to leave.
The poverty in New Orleans that this reveals is just...
They couldn't afford to leave.
On 9/1/05, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> shouldn't the mayor have ordered the entire town evacuated?
>
> It is my und
uot;
matt
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From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community"
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Things I wonder about New Orleans
>> Ian wrote:
>> I guess it depends on how much faith you have
>From what I read the levee was designed to withstand a storm surge
from a Category 3 hurricane, not one of a whole magnitude stronger.
larry
On 9/1/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ian wrote:
> > I guess it depends on how much faith you have in the Army Corps of engineers
>
> Isn't
The N.O. levee system was rated to withstand the direct hit of a category 3
hurricane.
Problem is, hurricane categories are dependant upon wind speed. I don't see
where the wind speed matters much when it comes to levees? Wouldn't the
size, duration, and rainfall potential of a storm be of much
It was not for that big of a hurricane or at least that is what the news
said a minute ago.
On 9/1/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Ian wrote:
> > I guess it depends on how much faith you have in the Army Corps of
> engineers
>
> Isn't the main levee that broke that new multi-m
Well, whenever I hear back from my animal keeper friend, I'll let you know
how the animals at the Species Survival Center are doing. My guess is - not
that great.
On 9/1/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> 4) I was wondering about the NO zoo - which Ray Camden also brought u
> Ian wrote:
> I guess it depends on how much faith you have in the Army Corps of engineers
Isn't the main levee that broke that new multi-million dollar
"hurricane-proof" levee? If that's the case then I'd say not much
confidence is warranted.
~~~
They've been saying that nature is trying to take back NO for decades, my
grandparents lived there for years, my father went to college at Tulane, lots
of family history there, and as long as I can remember there's been somebody
saying, "the Mississippi is trying to take NO back..."
but it's st
> Basically Mother Nature really, really, really wants New Orleans to be
> underwater right now. If we had not stepped in decades ago to try and
> thawart
> her, it would be by now. It is an interesting man & technology vs. nature
> struggle. And I'm not sure that I don't agree with those th
I saw an interesting History/Discover/The Learning Channel/PBS (I have a hard
time keeping those channels apart) show about the heroic efforts to keep New
Orleans dry particularly from the Mississippi river. Some of which obviously
failed this past week.
Basically Mother Nature really, reall
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Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:48 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Things I wonder about New Orleans
On 9/1/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Welcome to the corner, here's your sign.
"here's your sign" Isn't that from the
In regards to your datacenter question - this FPP from yesterday on
Metafilter talks about Zipa and directNIC (and, tangentially,
SomethingAwful.com) in New Orleans. They are currently still running:
http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/44715
(Metafilter is a CFMX site, too)
- Jim
Cameron Childres
On 9/1/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Welcome to the corner, here's your sign.
"here's your sign" Isn't that from the Redneck Comedy Tour? I've
heard vauge refrences to it, but I usually turn the channel when I see
Jeff Foxworthy or anyone similar. At any rate, that went over my
head.
Welcome to the corner, here's your sign.
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From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:42 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Things I wonder about New Orleans
What's happening in NOLA (and the rest of the gulf coast) a
What's happening in NOLA (and the rest of the gulf coast) are full of
tragedy and general mayhem. I've also been pondering about some more
general points I've not see covered yet in the news...
1) Are people freaking out because they are being forced to go cold
turkey on a substance of some kind?
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