** Private ** wrote:
> they are now providing their list to the general public. it says so right on
> their site.
You're right. They used to provide their list only to mirrors and you had to
get to a mirror to find out what was on it, but apparently you now get the list
directly from them.
> t
they are now providing their list to the general public. it says so right on
their site. that is what concerns me so much. if enough people start picking
up their list, email connectivity is going bye bye.
On 6/13/07, Jochem wrote:
>
>
> You do realize that mere mortals like you and me can not eve
I think that the people managing the blacklist are idiots, and the
mail admins who are implementing it are idiots, but they are only
guilty of being idiots.
I suspect more pressure will be given to companies like Oracle to stop
using the blacklist service than will be given to Time Warner to clean
** Private ** wrote:
> Nothing is wrong with the concept in general terms. My argument is that this
> group is violating a basic trust principle by imposing their agenda through
> this technical medium. Does their blacklist subscription ask the mail
> administrator whether they agree with the polit
hmm. I think a clueless mail administrator *should* have his head
handed to him. Personally.
On 6/13/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nothing is wrong with the concept in general terms. My argument is that this
> group is violating a basic trust principle by imposing their agenda throu
** Private ** wrote:
>
> APEWS has glommed onto the way blacklists work, which is as trusted sources
> to block spam.
You are redefining DNS RBLs into something they are not. There are quite
literally dozens of different DNS RBLs and all of them are different. There are
indeed DNS RBLs that simp
Nothing is wrong with the concept in general terms. My argument is that this
group is violating a basic trust principle by imposing their agenda through
this technical medium. Does their blacklist subscription ask the mail
administrator whether they agree with the political objective of the group?
ok well.
mostly I have been viewing this thread as entertainment, but now I am curious.
What exactly is wrong with using economic tools to push an agenda? It's been
done many many times. Think bus boycotts in Alabama. Think tax policy.
>blacklist is meant to do. They are engaging in a political
Whoops! Darn Gmail formatting. Here is the heart of my argument from that
post:
APEWS has glommed onto the way blacklists work, which is as trusted sources
to block spam. APEWS is abusing that trusted relationship to block very
large segments of the Internet in an attempt to coerce the users on th
I'm sorry, but the way I see your response does not allow me to make much sense
of it:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread.cfm/threadid:24326#236603
Jochem
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On 6/13/07, Jochem wrote:
>
> ** Private ** wrote:
> > On 6/12/07, Jochem wrote:
> >>
> >> I choose my ISPs more carefully then that.
> >
> > You hope.
>
> I'm sure (being on first name basis with the CEO or CTO helps).
>
>
> >> That is the point of subscribing to a blacklist, isn't it?
> >
> > T
Loyalty test? Isn't the the Star Chamber a Little Debbie snack? Oh
wait that's Star Crunch...
-Cameron
On 6/12/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There will be a loyalty test for everyone during intermission.
>
> On 6/12/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > ::munches popcorn::
** Private ** wrote:
> On 6/12/07, Jochem wrote:
>>
>> I choose my ISPs more carefully then that.
>
> You hope.
I'm sure (being on first name basis with the CEO or CTO helps).
>> That is the point of subscribing to a blacklist, isn't it?
>
> The point of a blacklist is to block offending ema
There will be a loyalty test for everyone during intermission.
On 6/12/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ::munches popcorn::
>
> On 6/12/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > sure, it passed... for now. just don't anger the star chamber...
> >
> > On 6/12/07, Cameron Childress <[EMA
::munches popcorn::
On 6/12/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sure, it passed... for now. just don't anger the star chamber...
>
> On 6/12/07, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 6/11/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Has anyone else seen this problem?
sure, it passed... for now. just don't anger the star chamber...
On 6/12/07, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/11/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anyone else seen this problem? If you are not sure, you can check
> your
> > mail server's IP address here:
> >
>
On 6/11/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone else seen this problem? If you are not sure, you can check your
> mail server's IP address here:
>
> http://openrbl.org/client/#66.27.61.170
My dedicated IP at speakeasy passed, as did my Verizon Broadband
wireless card IP.
You spamm
On 6/12/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whatever, I complained to the Federal Trade Commission. Let them talk to the
> Feds about it.
Yeah - get the Feds involved - THAT will solve it. I'll remember this
the next time I hear that some shmoe in congress wants to tax each
email sent...
On 6/12/07, Jochem wrote:
>
>
> I choose my ISPs more carefully then that.
You hope.
That is the point of subscribing to a blacklist, isn't it?
The point of a blacklist is to block offending emails, i.e. spam, but allow
legitimate mail through. This list does not accomplish that objective.
I
** Private ** wrote:
> Has anyone else had trouble lately with apews.org blacklisting their ISP/web
> hosting provider?
I choose my ISPs more carefully then that.
> This little organization is blacklisting the entire
> address ranges of large ISPs and hosting providers- Cox, Time
I am not, but some major corporations are. I got a 550 relay denied error
trying to send to mac.com and oracle.com yesterday.
On 6/12/07, Rick wrote:
>
> Don't use blacklists like that. If they're willing to block the
> entire address range of rackspace, then they really don't care whether
> or n
Amen to the Google Apps.. I have been amazed at the spam filtering that they
have. I run almost 400 domains on a mail server with some 8,000 users... and
I STILL use google apps for domains because they are so good at what they
do.
Supposedly they are going to come out with a "Reseller" type progr
--
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
SSTWebworks
7241 Jillspring Ct.
Springfield, Va. 22152
(703) 220-2835
http://www.sstwebworks.com
-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 10:12 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: apews.org blacklisting
Don't use blacklists like that. If they're willing to block the
entire address range of rackspace, then they really don't care whether
or not you get legit email or not. Say no to fascist blacklisting.
Just get gmail or google apps for your domain =)
Rick
~~
I had a similar problem with a blacklist a while ago (Many years). Our mail
server ended up blacklisted and their website only listed email as contact
info. They used their own list to filter for spam so there was no way for us
to email them!
~
Has anyone else had trouble lately with apews.org blacklisting their ISP/web
hosting provider? This little organization is blacklisting the entire
address ranges of large ISPs and hosting providers- Cox, Time Warner, and
Rackspace are all listed in their database, for instance. What that means is
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