I agree. When I get back we will revisit this.
On 2/25/08, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2/22/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
> > taken away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with
> > that, but
On 2/22/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
> taken away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with
> that, but I can see their point. Where they lose me is that they
> refuse to release the phone to me either. That'
actually, I agree with you. Tho the mayor's office is actually saying
(at least to me) that the school should have returned the phone when I
went in to ask for it. I
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > been there done that. He laughed. At this point I have
That reminds me of: "I drive a Dodge Stratus"
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > been there done that. He laughed. At this point I have the mayor's
> > office calling the superintendant's office.
>
> Of course he laughed. This is the only power he
> been there done that. He laughed. At this point I have the mayor's
> office calling the superintendant's office.
Of course he laughed. This is the only power he has in his entire life.
His wife and children don't love or respect him, his charges at the school
he "runs" hate him, their parents a
22, 2008 2:29 PM
> To: CF-Community
>
>
> Subject: RE: while I am complaining
>
>
> This is just me, but I would:
>
> 1) Write down a complete timeline to the best of your knowledge,
>
> 2) Give the rundown to a television crew and ask them to show up for some
yeah see and if this had been what happened, I would be annoyed, but with her.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would expect a parent or guardian to have to come to the school and
> get it. Makes it inconvenient for the parent and forces them to a
they are in loco parentis. But when the parent is there saying ok, I
have got this, and I will deal with it and they say no we are going
to parent your child ANYWAY
/me rants
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a school's got a lot more authority
been trying to file a police report for a week. The city police say
it's an issue for the school police and the school police are
essentially giving me the run-around. But yes, I am continuing to call
them.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you ARE goin
but see... I currently don't HAVE the option of deciding when to give
the phone back. This is my point. I actually call BS on the theory
that Lara texting in class was disruptive to the class, but I also
think that if you are going to whine about wanting to go to high
school you need to pay attenti
been there done that. He laughed. At this point I have the mayor's
office calling the superintendant's office.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Crow T. Robot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if this were me, i'd be in the principal's office asap DEMANDING my phone
> back.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 20
re Pol Pot looking for a record-breaking body
> count -- just make it happen.
>
> No one fucks with you, Dana. No one. Make it known.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> President
> Productivity Enhancement
>
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>&
I would expect a parent or guardian to have to come to the school and
get it. Makes it inconvenient for the parent and forces them to at
least show up at the school whether they wanna be involved or not - but
they should get the phone back.
-Cameron
G Money wrote:
> To me, it seems the best a
I don't understand punishing the parent. I do understand punishing the
child. In this case the school needs to understand the difference and
they don't.
I'd start by telling them your lawyer will be contacting them since
making threats is free (as long as you are willing to back them up).
T
ginal Message-
From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:29 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: while I am complaining
This is just me, but I would:
1) Write down a complete timeline to the best of your knowledge,
2) Give the rundown to a television crew an
I agree, confiscate it, give it back to the parent the first time.
But, given that this is a public school, this may be a rampant problem
and they may not have the manpower to keep up with the punishment
schedule.
You're also relying on there being "involved parents". I may be
biased, but there w
To me, it seems the best answer is to confiscate the phone for the duration
of the school day, then give it back to the kid at the end of the day. Maybe
you send a note home or something so the parents know what happened, and
that next time, the phone will be confiscated for a longer period, a week
count -- just make it happen.
>
> No one fucks with you, Dana. No one. Make it known.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> President
> Productivity Enhancement
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:
yeah, if I was a school administrator I'd hate my job. On one hand
you have people complaining that a schools policy is too strict (not
trying to call you out Dana). On the other hand, you have people
complaining that there's not enough control in the classroom and the
schools needs to exert more
February 22, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: while I am complaining
>
> My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
> taken away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with
> that, but I can see their point. Where they lose me is
I don't suppose you know a lawyer who would do you a favor? I have always
found that problems of this nature can be easily remedied with a phone call
from a lawyer.
Barring that, a letter to the board is a good idea. If don't get any
movement that way, you can always call your local TV station and
Wrong, thats simply not true, a private school can do all of those
things, but a public school cannot.
Schools have lost those fights in the courts time and again.
They can enforce community obscenity standards, require drug testing for
participation for sports and groups, and define a dress co
Replacement at full value. Just like for insurance.
> That's a good question, do you base it on what you paid for the phone or
> it's actual value..
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
a school's got a lot more authority than the government within it's walls.
A school can dictate the length of your hair, the style of your
clothesthey can curtail your freedom of speech. It's a whole different
entity.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:12 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On
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Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:15 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: while I am complaining
Scott Stewart wrote:
> But taking property and refusing to give it back to the rightful owner
isn't
> legal.. When the parent asks for the phone the school is required to give
it
&
Scott Stewart wrote:
> But taking property and refusing to give it back to the rightful owner isn't
> legal.. When the parent asks for the phone the school is required to give it
> back, otherwise it's petty larceny.
>
> Or do schools have some magic authority that makes them above the law?
>
>
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I find this entertaining...this is pretty much the government telling you
> how to raise your children, then. So many ppl here, like G, hate when
> government steps in and infringes on personal freedoms, yet when somethin
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-Original Message-
From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: while I am complaining
Possibly.
The school should
I find this entertaining...this is pretty much the government telling you
how to raise your children, then. So many ppl here, like G, hate when
government steps in and infringes on personal freedoms, yet when something
like this happens, it's OK? How is this different?
Let me say before it gets
Possibly.
The school should make it a point to inform the parents that this is the
policy. Obviously, they never told Dana about this. Parents can then make a
decision as to whether they think their child is responsible enough to be
given a phone, especially on the parents dime.
As usual, sounds
If it were I, I'd call the provider and have texting disabled.
--Ben "harsh response" Doom
G Money wrote:
> Amazing how things changemy parents would have told me that I shouldn't
> have been texting in class...and I'll get my phone back whenever they decide
> to give it back to me. My screw
I imagine that policy was put in place because most parents would probably
hand the phone right back to their kids the same thing would happen again.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I'm not talking about Dana reprimanding her child. That's a sep
I'm not talking about Dana reprimanding her child. That's a separate
topic.
She's complaining about the principal not giving back Dana her property...
On 2/22/08, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Amazing how things changemy parents would have told me that I
> shouldn't
> have been
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Crow T. Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Nobody ever said anything about her not texting in class, hell, I'm in
> agreement with that. Most here probably are. It has nothing to do with
> that.
>
> You think it's ok for the principal to impound your kid's car i
y 22, 2008 11:07 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: while I am complaining
My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone taken
away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with that, but I can
see their point. Where they lose me is that they refuse to release the phone
to
Nobody ever said anything about her not texting in class, hell, I'm in
agreement with that. Most here probably are. It has nothing to do with
that.
You think it's ok for the principal to impound your kid's car if they are
caught speeding on school grounds? And not give it back to YOU if ask for
Go to the school and present them with a bill for the phone, the
unused portion of the service plan (how many months left until your
next renewal?), and the plan cancellation fee (after all, to get a new
cell phone for your daughter, you'll probably have to cancel the
current plan, right?).
Tell t
LOL!
Classic :)
On 22/02/2008, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please change your signature if you would like to continue posting to this
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Amazing how things changemy parents would have told me that I shouldn't
have been texting in class...and I'll get my phone back whenever they decide
to give it back to me. My screw up, so face the consequences.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> you
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list.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
> taken away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with
> that, bu
you ARE going to continue to harrass them for that property back? I mean
like threaten to file charges with the police, etc?
On 2/22/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The principal is saying that they have a policy and that makes it ok.
Methinks not. You do not just take people's property. You
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-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:07 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: while I am complaining
My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
taken away last week for texting in class. I am not real
if this were me, i'd be in the principal's office asap DEMANDING my phone
back.
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
> taken away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with
> that, but
My daughter started public school in January and got her cell phone
taken away last week for texting in class. I am not really ok with
that, but I can see their point. Where they lose me is that they
refuse to release the phone to me either. That's my phone, not her
phone, and I am paying for cell
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