Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-22 Thread Heinke Höck
I like this discussion because I learned a lot about rdf and the application. From the view of persistent identifier I would say a persistent identifier needs a persistent object. URIs and URLs are not persistent but what is the object behind it and what are the metadata of the object? The objec

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-20 Thread Benno Blumenthal
is point onwards. > > > > Cheers, Roy. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto: > cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Hattersley, Richard > > Sent: 17 December 2010 16:13 > > To: John Graybea

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-20 Thread Jeff deLaBeaujardiere
ff deLaBeaujardiere Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? It would seem that the two conflicting requirements, which I'll caricature as "rigorous version control" and "pragmatic usability", could go some way to being recon

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread John Graybeal
; > -Original Message- > From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu > [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Hattersley, Richard > Sent: 17 December 2010 16:13 > To: John Graybeal; Jeff deLaBeaujardiere > Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadat

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread John Graybeal
n...@cgd.ucar.edu > [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Hattersley, Richard > Sent: 17 December 2010 16:13 > To: John Graybeal; Jeff deLaBeaujardiere > Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? > > It would seem tha

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
cgd.ucar.edu >> [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff deLaBeaujardiere >> [jeff.delabeaujardi...@noaa.gov] >> Sent: 16 December 2010 19:40 >> To: John Graybeal >> Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu >> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standa

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-17 Thread Hattersley, Richard
n...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff deLaBeaujardiere >> [jeff.delabeaujardi...@noaa.gov] >> Sent: 16 December 2010 19:40 >> To: John Graybeal >> Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu >> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? >> >> On 2010-1

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread John Graybeal
ta-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On >> Behalf Of Jeff deLaBeaujardiere [jeff.delabeaujardi...@noaa.gov] >> Sent: 16 December 2010 19:40 >> To: John Graybeal >> Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu >> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? >> >> On 2010-12

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Jeff deLaBeaujardiere
To: John Graybeal Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? On 2010-12-14 12:56, John Graybeal wrote: Just to be crystal clear, the places where you have '16' could also have 'current' (if I understand correctly what Roy was saying

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ybeal Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? On 2010-12-14 12:56, John Graybeal wrote: > Just to be crystal clear, the places where you have '16' could also have > 'current' (if I understand correctly what Roy was saying

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Jeff deLaBeaujardiere
On 2010-12-14 12:56, John Graybeal wrote: Just to be crystal clear, the places where you have '16' could also have 'current' (if I understand correctly what Roy was saying about their server), and the mmisw one could also be served with a particular version ID (analogous to the NERC example).

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
15 December 2010 22:23 To: Bryan Lawrence Cc: John Graybeal; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Steve Hankin Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? I was hoping that this conversation would end on Bryan's statement or thereabouts Actually, I think we really want: http://cfco

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-16 Thread Bryan Lawrence
gt; work, but there's some back-office re-engineering that needs to be > done first. > > Cheers, Roy. > > From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu > [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Benno > Blumenthal Sent: 15 December 2010 22:23 > To: Bryan Lawrence > Cc: J

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-15 Thread Benno Blumenthal
> Cheers, Roy. > > > > > > From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu > > [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of John Graybeal > > [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 17:56 > > To: Steve Hankin > > Cc:

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-15 Thread Bryan Lawrence
:TEMP > > Cheers, Roy. > > > From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu > [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of John Graybeal > [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 17:56 > To: Steve Hankin > Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web r

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of John Graybeal [jbgrayb...@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 17:56 To: Steve Hankin Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? In theory, MMI can support that approach (redire

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread John Graybeal
; Working to find a way of harmonising the two sources of web-served >>>> Standard Names is on by ‘To-Do’ list for next year (part of an >>>> issue list fed into the NETMAR project by John G.) >>>> >>>> Cheers, Roy. >>>> >>>

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Steve Hankin
adata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28 *To:* Benno Blumenthal *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Bryan Lawrence
G.) > > > > Cheers, Roy. > > > > *From:* cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu > > [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John > > Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28 > > *To:* Benno Blumenthal > > *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Dominic Lowe
adata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28 *To:* Benno Blumenthal *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumen

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-14 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
ar.edu] On Behalf Of John Graybeal Sent: 13 December 2010 22:28 To: Benno Blumenthal Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote: We hav

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Benno Blumenthal
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM, John Graybeal wrote: > A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: > > Benno, all, > > On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote: > > We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged >> down. >> > > As for standard names,

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread John Graybeal
A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: Benno, all, On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote: > We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged > down. > > As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at > > http://marinemetadata.org/cf

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Carlos Rueda
.edu] > *Sent:* 13 December 2010 15:25 > *To:* Dominic Lowe > *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? > > We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort >> bogged down. >> > > As for standar

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
December 2010 15:25 To: Dominic Lowe Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged down. As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at http://marinemetadata.org/cf but

Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Benno Blumenthal
> > We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the effort bogged > down. > As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at http://marinemetadata.org/cf but has not been keeping up to date. I have written a XSL transform at http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/xslt/.

[CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name?

2010-12-13 Thread Dominic Lowe
Hello all, What's the current CF recommended scheme for referencing a standard name on the web? (either by URL or URN). I know about the vocab server and the xml/html online versions and could choose to use URLs to point to items in any of these but is there a definitive pattern that should